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Would You Fly On Spanair MD-82?  
User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1826 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7374 times:

I am just curious how many a.nutters would feel safe on flying Spanair MD-82 after all the troubles that airline went through?

I am not sure whether I would fly it or nor, but I am sure that safety measures are higher.

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User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7365 times:

Yes, I would. As I would on an AF A320 or an OS/NG 767, or a DL CRJ. JK are not less safe than any other carrier in the EU.


WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7357 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
I am just curious how many a.nutters would feel safe on flying Spanair MD-82 after all the troubles that airline went through?

I think, the A.nutters probably are the wrong bunch of people to ask, as I suspect there will be only few negative answers ...
If you ask John Doe (or {i]Jorge Dominguez[/i] in this case), the share of negative answers likely will be higher.

Yes vs No:
2:0

-HT



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User currently offlineCairnterriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7355 times:

Yes....I would have no problem flying aboard one. The same can be said about an American A300 or a USAirways 737-300. Even with high profile crashes, you still stand more of a chance to be killed in a car crash on your own street.

User currently offlineSandroZRH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7354 times:

Of course I would. Just because they had one crash doesn't make them less safe than any other European airline of its size.

People have never stopped flying an aircraft because of a crash, needless to say that most people can't tell the difference between ie. an A320 and a 737 anyway.

edit: spelling

[Edited 2008-08-28 05:16:57]

User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Of course I would, with no hesitation whatsoever. If anything, I might feel a bit more confident as everyone associated with operating or flying the MD-82 might be more alert than normal.

I recall that in 1979 following a series of accidents, in particular the AA crash at ORD, the DC-10 was grounded by the FAA and CAA amongst others. The media went overboard to question the safety of the DC-10 and as a result when the type certificate was restored, the public was initially reluctant to fly in a DC-10. To prove just how safe the DC-10 was, on the day the CAA restored its type certificate Laker Airways operated a charter flight from LGW-HER and Sir Freddie Laker insisted that his family and many staff were passengers on this flight, inviting the Press along and saying something along the lines "If it's safe for my family, then it's safe for everyone.". When asked if I would be willing to go, I did not hesitate for a second to respond positively - it made a change from working that day!



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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17150 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7317 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
Would You Fly On Spanair MD-82?

Any day. Why not??



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9118 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7310 times:
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Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):

Yes I would. No doubt.

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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7304 times:

I would have no problem with flying on a Spanair MD-82

I think until the full investigation report comes out it is unfair for any person, even someone with little knowledge of the industry, to condemn JK and brand them unsafe. And even then, mistakes happen, things are overlooked and things go wrong. Personally I would be surprised if JK turned out to be at fault but even if they were I would have no problem with flying with them. Chances are if they do turn out to be at fault, they will strive to make amends and become safer. The likes of AS and AA have had crashes related to poor maintenance etc, and I think the ensuing outcry probably pushed them to be that bit safer than the rest of the pack.

JK are an EU registered and regulated airline and therefore on a same level as every other European airline in terms of safety. Chances are if they do turn out to be at fault, every other airline in Europe will probably make the same mistakes daily just without the consequences.

Cheers

BA787


User currently offlineTitiserra From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7299 times:

Absolutely no problem...would rather fly Spanair than Iberia, for quality issues, but speaking of safety any of them has all my confidence.

User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7285 times:

Spanair operates under the EU regulations, and that is alright for me. Yes, If I was offered a flight on a Spanair MD-82 tomorrow I'd take it instantly. I'd even take the camera and write a trip report for the other A.nutters!

Quoting HT (Reply 2):
I think, the A.nutters probably are the wrong bunch of people to ask

Absolutely correct sir. I do think that most people would say they would, but the proportion would be down against asking people if they feel safe on Virgin Atlantic, or even Ryanair. People do know that air travel is safe. They have had the flying vs car risk statistics crammed down their throats since time immemorial. Its just humans naturally have a dread attraction to talking about and finding out about plane crashes. You can see it on A.net more than anywhere. If there is a crash or incident anywhere in the world, you can bet a good portion of the time there is a thread running here before the local news where it happened gets wind.


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7280 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
Would You Fly On Spanair MD-82?

Only if they fly between FNT or LAN to RSW.
safe



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User currently offlineSbworcs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 852 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7266 times:

No problems at all. Just as safe as IB BA AF KL etc etc


The best way forwards is upwards!
User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1826 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7264 times:

I guess that I posted this on wrong forum !! a.nutters would fly on anything that can fly.
I would also fly it myself (MD-80 is one of my favorite airliners), but the fact that over 150people died haunted me and a.net...

Cheers, Alex


User currently offlineGST From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7263 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 13):
I guess that I posted this on wrong forum !! a.nutters would fly on anything that can fly.

Thats not true, I would probably refrain from sitting on the back of an eagle. Sharp beak and talons you see...


User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1497 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 7241 times:

Am I likely to ever fly on a JK Maddog??

No because I live in the wrong region and I don't plan on visiting Spain in the immediate future.


Would I feel safe on a JK Maddog??



Absolutely just like I'd feel safe on any other EU carrier.





Vhq



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User currently offlineMD11junkie From Argentina, joined May 2005, 3149 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 11 hours ago) and read 7203 times:



Quoting HT (Reply 2):
or {i]Jorge Dominguez[/i] in this case)

Actually John Doe in Spanish is "Juán Perez"

And yes, I would fly a JK MD-82.



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User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1559 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7141 times:

I wanted to fly them a couple of years ago to TFS but IB was way cheaper so I switched to IB, but yes, I would fly them tomorrow if I had the opportunity...


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11719 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7136 times:

I've flown on JKK's MadDogs before and I would so so again in an instance.

If the pilot in command considers the aircraft safe to fly, then I respect that highly educated decision - after all, he has a family, friends, a life* - he's not going to fly if the aircraft is about to crash, and that goes for ANY airline and ANY aircraft, no matter what the country.


Dan  Smile

*I am aware of a few suicidal instances, but they are so rare that they make plane crashes seem ten a penny.



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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1908 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 7054 times:
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I would love to, who doesn't like those JT8D's in the back!


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User currently offline767nutter From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7045 times:

I definately would still fly on one, flying is still the safest mode of transport around,

i read somewhere that more men have died doing up the zips on their trousers each year  Wow! than flying,


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5816 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 7028 times:



Quoting BCAL (Reply 5):
The media went overboard to question the safety of the DC-10 and as a result when the type certificate was restored, the public was initially reluctant to fly in a DC-10. To

Yes. If I remember correctly, after the AA crash (which, IIRC, was blamed on the airline's maintenance procedures) there was another DC-10 which crashed into a truck on a closed runway in Mexico City. Then, of course, shortly afterwards there was the Air New Zealand DC-10 in the Antarctic, which IIRC was again due to pilot error.

The world's media whipped up a storm over the plane, scaring people senseless and forcing McDonnell Douglas to drop the DC designation, which was a shame.

And, to answer the question, yes, like everyone else on this thread, I would fly in a Spanair MD-82 tomorrow. It wouldn't be an enjoyable flight though, as I'd be thinking of Madrid and imagining the nightmare of those last few minutes.


User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6983 times:

I actually flew on 1Time the other day from ELS to JNB. Former Spainair MD-87. Awesome aircraft.


Proudly South African
User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6966 times:

I'm going to hold off my vote in this until after the full investigation.

I guess everyone in Spanair maintenance will be double checking everything they do for the next few months. Probably the safest airline to fly right now.  Wink


User currently offlineNovak500 From Canada, joined Dec 2007, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6941 times:



Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 1):
Yes, I would. As I would on an AF A320 or an OS/NG 767, or a DL CRJ. JK are not less safe than any other carrier in the EU.

I completely agree.


User currently offline747m8te From Australia, joined Aug 2008, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (6 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6933 times:

I would any time, if anything you would think that such an incident would make the airline even more vigilant about any safety issues with their aircraft, also especially since I haven't been on an maddog before either I wouldn't hesitate.

But...

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 21):
And, to answer the question, yes, like everyone else on this thread, I would fly in a Spanair MD-82 tomorrow. It wouldn't be an enjoyable flight though, as I'd be thinking of Madrid and imagining the nightmare of those last few minutes.

Like you said, you couldn't help but think about what happened to those poor passengers in Madrid.



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