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Aircraft Type You Have Flown But Wish You Didn't  
User currently offlineHenkybaby From Netherlands, joined May 2008, 593 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5670 times:

For me that was the DC-10 on the route AMS-BOS operated by NWA. I hated that plane. I even rerouted myself through New York several times to avoid it. Cramped, no good seats, noisy...

Of course this is very personal but I am sure even the most devoted enthusiast has a plane they hate...


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User currently offlineZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1983 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

AA 757-200. I was trying to catch a UA flight in F but I ran out of time, when I got to ORD the only flight leaving was on a AA 757 in Y. One of the worst flights I have experienced! Cramped and noisy (behind the engines).


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User currently offlineHAMAD From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1159 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5641 times:

AA 757
NW - Economy DC-10
LH 747 in coach



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User currently offlinePITIngres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1124 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5625 times:

CRJ 100/200. I'm not very large and they are cramped. Ugh.
Saab 340 (the old A/B models, never flew in the newer ones with some sort of noise suppression). You could feel your fillings loosen.
UA 747 in Y, although I suppose that if it hadn't been transpac it might have been OK.

I don't mind the 752's, actually, regardless of operator.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11615 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5624 times:



Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
For me that was the DC-10 on the route AMS-BOS operated by NWA.



Quoting HAMAD (Reply 2):
NW - Economy DC-10

Flew this bird on NWA and didn't find it that bad, sure it wasn't a cop on the A333 I came back on, but wasn't exactly awful.

About the only one I can think of would be a Ukraine International KBP-SIP flight; to add a few more airlines and aircraft to my log I flew that route five times in two days, by the time of the last flight I was beginning to get a bit bored and just wanted to get to Yalta. Even so, I enjoyed the flight, I just began to think all the flying might be a little pointless just for a few more airlines, but I've never regretted flying something, even when it's nearly killed me  silly 


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5588 times:



Quoting PITIngres (Reply 3):

I don't mind the 752's, actually, regardless of operator.

Fly on a UK/European holiday charter flight (think of 28" pitch, so that's 239 people on a B752, or 289 on a B753) and believe me, you'll mind them afterwards when you need new kneecaps, legs and a set of crutches  Silly

I can't say I disliked any aircraft I've flown on, only the carrier that operated it, so that'd be Delta.


User currently offlinePITIngres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1124 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5558 times:

28" pitch??? !!!  eek  Yeah, I'd mind that. But that's not the airplane type's fault, now is it... Do the same thing in any plane and it's gonna hurt.

Whereas the old Saab 340 started to untie your ligaments and loosen your fillings on takeoff, even if you were the only person in a captain's chair on the plane...  Smile



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11615 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5549 times:



Quoting PITIngres (Reply 6):
28" pitch??? !!! Yeah, I'd mind that. But that's not the airplane type's fault, now is it... Do the same thing in any plane and it's gonna hurt.

Then imagine that 28 inch pitch on an 8 abreast B767 and you have anyone's idea of hell!



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User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2821 posts, RR: 45
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5544 times:

Any 50 seat CRJ; any 737-200.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5533 times:

A320. It really may have been more about the one particular example I was on and the attitude of the crew more than anything though. Several years back when Ryan International was flying to LAS, LAX, and SFO (as well as a few MCO runs) out of ATL for AirTran, I flew on one of their A320s from ATL to LAS. The a/c was cramped (the seat pitch was obviously still that of the previous operator) and I had maybe an inch between my knees and the seat in front of me. The crew was not exactly happy to be there either so that kind of affected the flight as well. When we landed at LAS, when the thrust reversers kicked in, the cabin started to shake and I thought the overhead bins were going to come crashing down. That flight was such a bad experience that I willing sat in the last row on a 717 going LAS-DFW-ATL in order to avoid another Ryan International A320 flight.

To this day, I have not flown on another Airbus a/c. It's not by choice, it's just because the only route I travel on is ATL-LAS-ATL once or twice a year and DL and FL don't have any Airbus a/c in their fleets (in the case of DL, at this time) and US Airways is about to drop their once a day service on the route (I didn't like the flight times on the service so it never got considered for my treks to Vegas). I also tend to stick with nonstop service, so that axes Frontier, US Airways, Northwest and United from the mix.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5519 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
but I've never regretted flying something, even when it's nearly killed me   

Dan, this refers to your experience in Syria, I guess ?!

Quoting PGNCS (Reply 8):
any 737-200.

Lovely a/c in WN's hands. I was positively impressed by its T/O-power flying TUS to LAS.

Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
Aircraft Type You Have Flown But Wish You Didn't  

The Do-228 was *special* with lots of noise, but still bearable with ear plugs.

Worst experience I had recently was on DY B733 LN-KKP in 23A with its (for my long legs) unbearable little space for my legs (even though the middle seat was empty). This negative experince led my to not show up for a series of 3 other flights within Norway 2 days later, but to explore downtown Oslo in even more depth.

Many other fairly negative experiences I have had on various carriers longhaul meanwhile have faded away ...
-HT



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User currently onlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2093 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5515 times:

9E CRJ-440

This plane was a dump! There was trash and snack crumbs everywhere, and the floor was black with ancient gum patties.



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5514 times:



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 5):
Fly on a UK/European holiday charter flight

Like Finnair's charters on all Y class 752, 227 seats.
They are used on long haul charters also, some 10+ hours on those surely feels long, even with a tech stop.
The HEL-LPA (6h) is popular route for charters, that's the max time I can stand. It seems in Nov I will be on Thomas Cook A321 (211 seats) on the route... luckily you can pre-book an exit seat.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12409 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5509 times:

Any 146 flight I have taken, particularly with Flybe; with six abreast, you get off the plane and check that you still have elbows. Thank God those awful acft have been retired; the 195 is such a breath of fresh air!

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17052 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

Any LH 747 in Y class, long haul (a la LAX).


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User currently offlineCairnTerriAIR From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5491 times:

Any American Eagle. Cramped, awful seats, too narrow. Tolerable from BDL to JFK, should be a law against subjecting anybody to a flight longer than that. PRINAir's Herons were more comfortable to fly aboard.

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11615 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5490 times:



Quoting HT (Reply 10):
Dan, this refers to your experience in Syria, I guess ?!

Sure is Holger, and I hope it will forever stay my sole experience in that respect!



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5464 times:
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Any CRJ-200 with 50 Y-seats. Our airport mostly see DH8's, DH4's, CRJ-200's, J41's and a daily JE 738 to CPT. Whenever I fly to-or-from JNB, I avoid the CRJ's and much rather take the props.


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User currently offlineBAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

For me it would have to be the HP Herald. Back in the early 80s Air UK used to fly them on the LHR-GCI route, and as we went through a phase of spending our annual family summer holidays in Guernsey, we had no choice but to climb aboard those things twice every August.


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They used to rattle, vibrate, drip all kinds of substances from various places in flight, were noisy as hell and generally made for an extremely unpleasant flying experience! They also seemed to have a very distinctive cabin aroma, and as soon as we climbed aboard and that smell hit my nostrils I was reminded of horrible past flights aboard those ancient monsters, and was a gibbering wreck until we reached our destination! Infact they're pretty much to blame for me being terrified of flying for quite a number of years.



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8894 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5406 times:

Any CRJ-100/200. And I've had to fly dozens of them.

User currently offlinePA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

I don't really like the 753 - the long tube with 3-3 abreast surely isn't my favorite. Especially after enduring rather long flights with DE on MUC-TFS and NW on PDX-HNL. IMO, it really sucks on long flight.

Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 5):
I can't say I disliked any aircraft I've flown on, only the carrier that operated it, so that'd be Delta.

That's it! They are to blame...


User currently offlineTango29 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5343 times:

I know there isn't manyof them around now but in the early 90's i did 2 flights on
Manx airlines Bae ATP's and they were the most noisy uncomfortable flights i have
ever been on, i also had a horrible flight on a BA 744 from HKG to LHR never again!

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User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5316 times:
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Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
I've never regretted flying something, even when it's nearly killed me

I'd modify that to "I've never regretted flying something, because it hasn't killed me yet"... knock on wood...

that having been said, it was slightly scary to land in this one on Baku, a few years back...


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mind you, the food was surprisingly good, given the fact that most of the seats were broken and fell forward upon landing...


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Worst ones so far were...

XL Airways B737-800 flying for Air Berlin
China Southwest B737-800
Lufthansa B747-400

... all of them scored in the "horrible" range regarding pitch: in the first two, my knees should have been where the person sitting in the row in front of me had his butt, and the third wasn't much better either...

Any Air Berlin B737-800 also deserves "honorable" mentioning - my girlfriend and I were both close to having to be carried off the plane due to knee injuries sustained by idiots in the row in front of us slamming their seats back without caring who's knees they'd smash. We both didn't have a millimeter to spare, with our knees already firmly pressed into the plastic seatbacks when their seats were upright, and without any bit of warning... I heard my girlfriend screaming in pain despite the fact that I was wearing in-ear headphones, and the music I was listening to wasn't really on quiet... and, about a second later, I knew (or, make that "felt") what had caused it.



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User currently offlineBE77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 5222 times:

An old SkyVan in South America. It was still in camouflage livery, and may have still been in military service, but was swapped for our 'normal' Islander flight when the Islander went U/S. This SkyVan had obviously never been intended for people who weren't wearing green.

Quoting PGNCS (Reply 8):
Any 50 seat CRJ; any 737-200

First Air, Air North, and Canadian North all operate decent 737-200s. Lots of seat pitch to allow for bulkier clothing, good service, etc. I have no idea what else they'll be able to use when the 200's simply get too old....nothing newer in the same class (people + cargo) of main liners seems able to operate off gravel.



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25 IAHFLYR : Short Brothers 330! The box the Twin Otter came in, what a piece of garbage that SH33 is!
26 TUNisia : MD-80 (any series) .... not a comfortable A/C to fly in at all. Too narrow. Same with RJs.
27 Post contains links and images Vatveng : The wretched Dash-8 View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Kryst - YXUphoto I have never been on a Q model, but the old non-Q tin cans are so bad I r
28 Rwy04LGA : And you should see some of the XXL people boarding those planes. How they Squeeze into them is beyond me.
29 PanAm330 : REALLY?! The MD80 is one of my favorite aircraft to fly, mostly due to to the fantastic engine sounds. I'll miss them when they're gone eventually. I
30 JoePatroni : I try to avoid any CRJ100-200. They're way too cramped and I just can't get over the feeling of them during take-off and landing. I just hate being so
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