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First Class Questions For UA, TP And LH  
User currently offlineFbm3rd From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5858 times:

What can I expect flying first class on UA 777? Also, Business on TP and Business on LH and First on LH.

I am flying from IAD-LIS via LHR. Has UA updated all their T7s with the new first class cabins? How is LHs first class on a 747? I am super excited about my trip.

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User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5834 times:

Well, I've never been on UA F yet, but they do have a new F product that definitely seems worth checking out!
The service in LH F is great and very attentive, but the seats are quite old.

If the route you wish to fly is served by UA aircrafts in which the new F is installed, I'd have chosen that (but check that ahead to make sure!). if not, definitely go with LH.

No idea about TP, but from what I hear their C is nothing special.


User currently offlineDavehammer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5814 times:

Sadly UA hasn't started upgrading it's 777's at all as yet. The United 'Suits Deams' website shows which flights have the new product but they are all 767/747 flights.

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 5800 times:



Quoting Fbm3rd (Thread starter):
Also, Business on TP and Business on LH and First on LH.

Are these longhaul flights (TATL) or shorthaul flights within Europe) ?
Makes big differences in answers ...
-HT



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User currently offlineFbm3rd From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5761 times:



Quoting HT (Reply 3):
shorthaul flights within Europe)

I am booked on:

IAD-LHR- UA--First
LHR-LIS-TP--Business

BCN-FRA-LH--Business
FRA-IAD-LH-First


User currently offlineAirPortugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3619 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5742 times:



Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 1):
No idea about TP, but from what I hear their C is nothing special.

eh, who's C is anyways...



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5734 times:



Quoting Fbm3rd (Reply 4):
BCN-FRA-LH--Business

Unless you are booked on a A306 (aka Kontschaufel ) the only 2 differences from Eco are : 1. The middle seat is blocked. 2. The meal is a bit better. There are no specific Business Class seats - only the (all ?) A306's have dedicated Business Class seats.

Quoting Fbm3rd (Reply 4):
LHR-LIS-TP--Business

On TP's A319/320/321 it basically will be the same. i.e. only blocked middle seats.

Quoting Fbm3rd (Reply 4):
FRA-IAD-LH-First

Can' t say; I only have experince in Business TATL ...
-HT



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User currently offlineSleeperseat From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5729 times:

Actually LH's F-Class is quite outdated,(seats are still pretty cozy), but the service is excellent. Furthermore you have all goodies, Lufthansa First Class Terminal, Personal Driver Service with Porsche Cayenne or Mercedes S-Class to the aircraft....

Plus, LH offers a very nice Rimowa amenity kit at the moment.... just for this it's worth doing it.... Smile

Hope you enjoy your trip.

cheers,
Sleeperseat


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3591 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5714 times:

LH F service is among the best. I've done BA/LH/QF/AF/CX/AA/SQ/NH/CI/TG in longhaul F and LH is among the best out there.

User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 5 days ago) and read 5690 times:



Quoting AirPortugal310 (Reply 5):
eh, who's C is anyways...

Well, I was wondering how long I will get away with it until the subject rises  Smile
But I'm happy it did -

I don't know why are people on this site referring to Business class as J. for most airlines, C is the dedicated abbreviation for Business. to be honest, apart from U.S carriers, I have never met any airline referring to its Business class as J. in all the airline systems I know, C is the common for business - what with it being the standard highest class in Business (as Y is in Economy). and I'm sorry, I really tried, but I just can't bring myself to calling it J.


User currently offlineSleeperseat From Germany, joined Apr 2008, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5685 times:



Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 9):
Well, I was wondering how long I will get away with it until the subject rises
But I'm happy it did -

I don't know why are people on this site referring to Business class as J. for most airlines, C is the dedicated abbreviation for Business. to be honest, apart from U.S carriers, I have never met any airline referring to its Business class as J. in all the airline systems I know, C is the common for business - what with it being the standard highest class in Business (as Y is in Economy). and I'm sorry, I really tried, but I just can't bring myself to calling it J.

Among Business Class there are a lot of different booking/fare classes, like Full Fare, Non Rev, Special Rate....
Furthermore, First Class is also available as F or A.


User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5683 times:



Quoting Sleeperseat (Reply 10):
Among Business Class there are a lot of different booking/fare classes, like Full Fare, Non Rev, Special Rate....
Furthermore, First Class is also available as F or A

I'm well aware. among the Business class booking fares I know are C,D,J,Z,R,I,W and so on. First can be F,A,O, even P.
but the pure fact is, that most airlines (maybe except the U.S carriers) use F,C,Y... I really don't know why people here use only J to describe Business class.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25154 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5597 times:



Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 9):
I have never met any airline referring to its Business class as J.

Many airlines use J for business class. Originally, the C code was mainly used for the intra-European type of business class products and J for longhaul services where service standards were much higher. However some carriers seem to prefer one code or the other as the primary code for business class. Whenever I book LX business class (both longhaul and shorthaul) the E-ticket always shows J class, regardless of the actual reservations booking designator.

I think BA uses J for their longhaul product and C within Europe. AC uses J although C is an inventory-controlled booking code, unless that has changed recently. It all depends on the carrier.


User currently offlineKU747 From Kuwait, joined Mar 2008, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 5570 times:



Quoting Fbm3rd (Thread starter):
How is LHs first class on a 747?

As you may know, the LH First Class is located in the upper deck with 16 seats 2-2 configuration. Personally, I didn't like it especially when traveling alone because you might have someone sitting next to you and this wont be comfortable. I prefer the A340 and A330 configuration 1-2-1. LH F/C Service is great, IFE is v. good, First class terminal is out of this world, Seats are outdated (too bad).
I prefer UA First Class over LH 747 F/C only because of their seat configuration 1-2-1 .

Enjoy the trip.



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User currently offlineKU747 From Kuwait, joined Mar 2008, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 5567 times:



Quoting Fbm3rd (Thread starter):
What can I expect flying first class on UA 777?

Nothing special, below average service, average food, average IFE. their F/C window seats are better than LH 747 seats.



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User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5521 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):
Whenever I book LX business class (both longhaul and shorthaul) the E-ticket always shows J class, regardless of the actual reservations booking designator

...Sure? still? I've flew LX business last June and the designator code was C, although the booking class was lower  Confused

Quoting KU747 (Reply 14):
Nothing special, below average service, average food, average IFE

LOL.... KU747, you've definitely eliminated any desire to fly UA now  rotfl 


User currently offlineKU747 From Kuwait, joined Mar 2008, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5515 times:



Quoting CastropRauxel (Reply 15):
LOL.... KU747, you've definitely eliminated any desire to fly UA now

There is a huge gap between U.S. carriers and European carriers in terms of service, food and IFE. I have nothing against U.S. carriers but that is a fact. I've been in F/C on many U.S. and European carriers such as PA, TW, AA, UA, DL, NW, CO, BA, LH, SR, VS, KL.
When you travel a lot with different carriers you can easily tell which one is the best.  Smile



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