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United First Loads To Honolulu  
User currently offlineUSAFO1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 3 hours ago) and read 7873 times:

So I wanted to see how many people in the forums would know about the loads to Honolulu this fall in first class. I'm currently flying RIC-IAD-ORD-HNL on 30 Oct 08 and HNL-LAX-ORD-RIC on 5 Nov 08 and I've used a CR1 (Confirmed Regional Upgrade) to bump myself up to First. This is my first vacation in years and it's a pretty sweet deal. I got the ticket for $500 and I'm staying at the Hale Koa, the military resort in Honolulu. So I want to be comfortable all the way there and back so I have a nice trip. However, when I upgraded all my flights were confirmed in First except the ORD-HNL and my return flight HNL-LAX. When I called United, they said all seats available for upgrade have been taken. But looking at the seats in First on the website, there are still seats available in First.

United informed me that those seats are revenue seats and aren't upgrade eligible until 72 hours prior to departure. Because I am a Premier member I have been put on a Priority Waitlist for the upgrade. However, what I was wonderin from the Airlines.net community, as well as those who work for United here on the forums, was what my chances were of actually making those First class seats to and from Honolulu. The ORD-HNL currently has 5 open seats and the HNL-LAX is pretty much wide open.

Any information will help. I know there are several passengers that don't show up or take an earlier flight on departure days, but the ORD-HNL flight is the only direct flight that day, so I'm wondering how many will actually not show up. So, all you United experts and employees out there, if you could help me out I'd REALLY appreciate it!

Brent M. Burklo
USAFO1

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User currently offlineJkj777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

Good luck with this. It is my experience that you will have a lot of trouble getting an upgrade for those sectors. With only 5 seats remaining, it is doubtful that they will be around or even eligible for an upgrade at that point. I have always had difficulty with it but maybe you will be more fortunate. Best wishes!

User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 hours ago) and read 7809 times:

20% on the way out and 95% on the way back would be my guess.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9652 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 hours ago) and read 7713 times:



Quoting USAFO1 (Thread starter):
Because I am a Premier member I have been put on a Priority Waitlist for the upgrade

Yes but you are behind Global Service, 1K and Premier Executive. If the flight is mostly full, you don't have much hope of an upgrade. Premiers get upgrades on routes that do not have many business travelers normally, but HNL on the 777s tends to be a high yield vacation destination. There likely will be lots of higher status people wanting upgrades that get higher priority. Also with only 36 first class seats and almost 350 economy seats, the chances of an upgrade are slim.



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User currently offlineWhatUsaid From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 665 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

I'm 1K and had problems getting bumped up to 1st to HNL. LAX is easier than ORD or SFO, that I will say. But, the fare basis can also result in you staying in Coach while another Premier who paid a higher fare gets bumped up.

User currently offlineUSAFO1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years ago) and read 7491 times:

That's what I figured... I might look at the loads through LAX and see if I have a better chance through there.

Thanks for the help! Any employee advice would help out too!

Brent


User currently offlinePlatinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7366 times:
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Too early to tell on ORD-HNL, but doesn't look good. HNL-LAX seems good. Depending on which flight you take out of HNL Flight 82 which is a 777 always has the best possibilities for upgrades.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25442 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7356 times:

I can assure you if UA1 only has 5 open seats today, it will be sold out come October 30th.

Additionally while LAX and SFO flights are probably easier to upgrade due the number of available flights, if you are only a Premier flyer you are last in line for an upgrade with UGS, 1K and Premier Executives ahead of you.



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User currently offlineSoxfan From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 865 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7291 times:

SeatGuru reports that "most flyers think it isn't worth the extra miles to fly first class to Hawaii." However, this comment has been up probably for several years, and those "most flyers" may actually be a small sample. Has anyone had an experience with it? The First Class domestic cabin must be a very different setup from international...is it more comfortable than 757-767 F domestic?

Also, do the flights feature anything special that's Hawaiian-themed because of the destination? Or, is it wishful thinking...

Soxfan  Smile



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5972 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7271 times:



Quoting Soxfan (Reply 8):
The First Class domestic cabin must be a very different setup from international...is it more comfortable than 757-767 F domestic?

US-HNL is flown with domestic configured aircraft, UA has 6 777s and 14 763s in a two class configuration that do nothing but fly between the mainland and Hawaii and domestic intra hub/trunk routes.

Quoting Soxfan (Reply 8):
Also, do the flights feature anything special that's Hawaiian-themed because of the destination? Or, is it wishful thinking...

Mai-tais and "Hawaiian" themed Trader-Vic meals, I dont know if they still play half way to Hawaii or not.



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User currently offlineUsafo1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7202 times:

I just called United and they said there are 10 open seats... Don't know why the website is only showing 5... Even still from everyone's replies it looks like I will be flying E+.. Which is disappointing and a waste of a CR1 Sad

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5972 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7176 times:



Quoting Usafo1 (Reply 10):
Which is disappointing and a waste of a CR1

Well anything is possible but it is not looking likely, you may want to call up UA and see if they can re-route you on a flight that has upgrade eligible seats hat way your CR1 clears instantly and you don't have to wait for an upgrade....



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1916 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7156 times:

When I took my wife PDX-HNL-SFO last weekend on HA, I just paid for the upgrade myself and spared us the waitlisting for it.

If you ever take this trip again...FLY HAWAIIAN!

Have fun on the trip...and stop by Hickam, it's got some great facilities...better than most CONUS bases (mine included).


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3708 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7141 times:



Quoting Usafo1 (Reply 10):
I just called United and they said there are 10 open seats... Don't know why the website is only showing 5... Even still from everyone's replies it looks like I will be flying E+.. Which is disappointing and a waste of a CR1 

The CR1 won't move you into open seats regardless of what is and isn't available, I learned that the first time I used one (I thought that was what differentiated a CR-1 to an e500). However, when we got to the airport (RIC also, I'm in the area) my wife and I had been moved up to F. Don't resign yourself to E+, then again our flight was a domestic 757 and only 3/24 seats were assigned when we left for the airport.

Quoting United1 (Reply 9):
Mai-tais and "Hawaiian" themed Trader-Vic meals, I dont know if they still play half way to Hawaii or not.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=849478
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=868265



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5972 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7120 times:



Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 13):
Mai-tais

 Sad



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User currently offlineUSAFO1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7063 times:

Well I called United back to see if I could re-route and they said it was actually better for me to stick with the the ORD-HNL flight because the loads were better. I'm not sure if that's true or just Indian outsourcing. I'm going to stick with it though because I'm going for fun with some fellow AF pilots. If I get the upgrade, GREAT! If not I'll just remember where I'm going and enjoy myself. Thanks for the help guys! If you have any other advice, please don't hesitate to pitch in!

User currently offlineHNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6912 times:

Flew the flight one month ago in economy plus. Couldn't get an upgrade, but the extra room in that section of coach on the 777 isn't bad. The major problem is no meals for eight hours, so...load up on snacks and have fun. Aloha.


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User currently offlineUSAFO1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6831 times:

I've flown E+ on the 777 before and it's nice, just prefer the extra service and seats of First. We will see how things turn out I guess...

User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2361 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6755 times:
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Quoting United1 (Reply 9):
I dont know if they still play half way to Hawaii or not.

As of May, they still did offer the Half Way game and I actually got 29 seconds off the halfway mark . . . and came in second! I thought it was game once I heard the correct half way time, but I guess not.


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1916 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6712 times:

half way game? Pray tell...

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25442 posts, RR: 49
Reply 20, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

Google is your friend

try "halfway to hawaii game" and you should get plenty of hits on this long time UA tradition.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5972 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6569 times:



Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 19):
half way game? Pray tell...

http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/02/traveling-to-hawaii.html

second to last picture/caption explains it, the prize is a gift pack of some kind;

Someones idea on how to win....

http://benjaminsteers.com/halfwayhawaii.html

Its harder then it sounds.



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User currently offlineAndyinPIT From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5537 times:

I had it down to the second last time I non-reved out there with my wife, but I got my time zones mixed up so I was an hour off! man was I pissed.


Just try to get an E+ seat and hope for the best. Like others have said, the no meal thing is kind of annoying, but I took half a bottle of Nyquil and it made the trip just seem to fly by  Wink


User currently offlineUSAFO1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

Well I'm already confirmed in E+, so that's good. I'm hoping things will turn around for me on my HNL-LAX flight as the number of seats in F are still wide open. It still seems like a waste of a CR1 though because my IAD-ORD flight is upgraded and confirmed but if the HNL flight doesn't, then I just used a CR1 for a 2.5hr flight... But, like I said, I'm going to try to enjoy myself instead of worrying about an upgrade. I tried to see if I could change my route and they wanted to charge me the $150 change fee plus the diff. in fare, so I decided to just stick with what I got.

Any United employees who could keep me up to date, that would be GREAT. I just get tired of talking to employees who only know what the book tells them to say and who speak broken English..

Brent
USAFO1


User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 730 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

Part of it is just dumb luck too, as well as the given number of elite FF on any given flight.

I flew LAX-HNL-LAX back in late May/early June. On the LAX-HNL segment, F had checked in full before I even got to the gate. Yet on the red-eye 767 HNL-LAX, they thought Y would be oversold but F had tons of seats available, so they upgraded a bunch of pax to F, incuding me. There must not have been a lot of elite FFs, because I am "only" a Premier, as was the gentleman sitting next to me, who also got upgraded. And I was on a pretty cheap super-advance purchase fare for work, so that had nothing to do with it.

I haven't done F on the 2-class 777. but have often on the 2-class 767. It's not that great on the 67, although you do have more room to recline (which is nice if you're trying to sleep on a red-eye) and you'll get a hot meal as opposed to BOB in Y.

I will concur with others that the ORD-HNL leg will be the harder of the two. My guess is that they probably route a lot of FF tix, especially from the east cost, on that segment and leave the West Coast-HNL flights (more so LAX than SFO) for local O&D pax.

Good luck and enjoy! Hawai'i is my favorite vacation spot of all!



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25 USAFO1 : Yea, I'm really looking forward to going. The last time I went was in 2004 for my brother's wedding. The wedding was nice, but we were on the Big Isla
26 USAFO1 : Hey guys, I have another question. I was reading an article on the internet somewhere that was pretty interesting. It mentioned sponsored upgrades fro
27 Mauiman31 : Yes, just don't be disappointed by the seat and pitch on UA to HNL. Standard domestic 38' with no foot rest on the 67's and 77's. NW, CO and AA offer
28 USAFO1 : Here's a small part of the article I read and what I'm trying to get at... "The PA list is the Priority A list, which is the first one cleared, follow
29 USAFO1 : The PA and PB waitlisting discussion in the latter half of the post above is of course before 120hrs to departure when they release seats to e500s.
30 MTSUATC : I don't mean any offense but United Premiers are the most naive group of frequent flyers. I know the ORD-HNL route is mainly leisure pax, but there ar
31 USAFO1 : MTSUATC, I appreciate the response, however I do not understand why you felt it necessary to make this statement about United Premiers. I understand y
32 USAFO1 : Ok here's an update to my current flight... I changed the ORD-HNL trip to RIC-IAD-SFO-HNL. The SFO - HNL trip has just over more than half of the F ca
33 Post contains links Warreng24 : Refer to FlyerTalk. They have a good FAQ on how you can check for current upgrade availability on UA flights. To upgrade from Economy to First (on a
34 USAFO1 : Warreng24, Hey, thanks for the links man and the information. I REALLY appreciate it. Gave me a lot of good answers. Definitely going to use this quit
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