SQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1687 posts, RR: 21 Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7199 times:
Given the abundant number of crew members in the forum, I was wondering what were certain airlines favorite and least favorite routes to fly or get staffed on? This question isn't meant to offend anyone from a given city or country per se, because the reasons may be multi-fold; they could range from the difficult operational realities of a certain route (late night timings, short layovers given length of flight etc.) or simply the completely subjective views of various crew members on how "fun" certain destinations are to layover in, or sadly in more recent times, how "safe" a destination is percieved to be by an airline (the recent BA pullout from ISB comes to mind). So simply put, what are the most sought after and least sought after crew destinations among different airlines!?
N104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 949 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7030 times:
I know UA crews like SYD because of the 2 day 2 night lay-over and most of the senior ones get all of that time to themselves, junior must do the MEL turn with the 2nd day. Least favorite is MSP in winter or PHL. It is by preference for each person
"Learn the rules, so you know how to break them properly." -H.H. The Dalai Lama
Honestly, I love the flights, the people, the food, the destination, to weather (list goes on). Absolutley everything.
I have my favorite restaurants, gelato shops, market stalls for food, spots on the beach, etc.. What is not to love about it?
The flights have a reputation that is more bark than bite. I, personally, find the flights easy and smooth. Mind you, I expect drama every flight, my expectation level is met and it is all down hill. Easy and smooth.
HALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1396 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6973 times:
Favorite: SYD. Great walking city, generally nice weather, great restaurants, good wine. We have either 50 or 74 hour layovers which is really nice and highest per-diem rates in our system.
Least Favorite: SMF. The hotel is 30 minutes from the airport, we arrive there late at night and leave very early the next morning with bare minimums regarding crew rest. The hotel is fine, as are the flights and I actually really like the airport there with one of the best food courts for a small airport.
Former Least Favorite: Guam. I'm glad we don't fly there any more. It was really hot and the snake infestation would short out the electricity grids leaving the island with frequent black outs. Oppressive humidity and did I mention how freaking hot it is there? It's really hot.
LAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 8076 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6950 times:
Im not a crew member, but is it true that SNA is a least favorite?
One of our offices is by SNA, so after work sometimes I use AA's SNA-DFW flights and CO's SNA-IAH flights. Alot of the flight attendents I talk to say that they find the passengers to be a bit more to handle of flights to SNA.
From a passenger experiance, I LOVE SNA! Its so easy! Though I tend to use LAX since I live right by it.
Cool, thanks. don't know, maybe it's my personal outsider look on things, but I always thought crews doesn't like this layover as they're afraid of being here. maybe it's just the case with the european ones.
Bwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 702 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6877 times:
At bmi my least favourite is EMA (East Midlands - crappy airport hotel), and SVX (Yekaterinburg, not a great hotel, not a lot to do, and three clear days there). The ladies dislike IKA (Tehran due to the restrictions on dress, lack of pool facilites, unless the embassy will let us use theirs, and wearing a headscarf, long sleeves and trousers in 40 degree heat). Favourites - would agree TLV as well as AMM, BEY, AMS, BRU, DAM.
In a about two weeks actually, are you based there?
How do you guys feel about turnarounds? I have never been able to get a consensus on them - some like the fact that they get to go home at the end of the day, while others hate the multiple take offs and landings!
Dsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6519 times:
Quoting MOBflyer (Reply 13): I had heard that JAN was least liked among WN crews for layovers.
I wouldn't be suprised. The hotel (at least the last one I knew of) that WN uses for crews in JAN is nice, but is smack dab in the middle of downtown Jackson. Not a good place to be out at night considering it's only 2 or 3 blocks to the Ghetto.
Because it's so frickin' cold! If you have to be a the airport by 6 you'd better get up and leave for the march through knee deep snow and -20F temps by 4am. And if you spend more than a few hours there your skin dries out so much it's an instant case of "winter itch".
And we haven't even mentioned the frozen shut baggage doors on the DC-9!
3holeflyer From United States of America, joined May 2008, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6437 times:
Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 19): FAR/MOT/BIS/GFK etc. What makes you think they would? Small town=small fun? Hardly...
I've spent a fair amount of time with my job in these places, and always liked it. You just have to have an imaginative nack for finding the neat things. The people are clear thinking and good natured, but reserved. After a week of working with a couple of guys (probably Norwegian heritage) and one of them finally looked up one morning and asked "How are you today?", I felt a hump had finally been crossed.
: For me at LH some of the favourites are: Chicago (at least in the summer), almost second home to me from April until October Kuwait (not much fancy ab
: Favorites would include SYD, SFO, BWI, and OGG. Least favorites include FNT and EWR. But really, a person's like/dislike of a particular layover is SO
: Worst is CWA- shuttle never on time 15-20 min wait, and the most uncomfortable beds at the best western hotel. Best is PWM- long layover and a hotel r
: Amen to that, brother. Bring more butter!!!
: Obligatory USAF response: Freezin's the reason!
: My oldest friend was junior with BA during 1999/2000 and she got the 2-day RUH night-stop for the turn of the Millenium. BA gave all the crew addition
: My aunt works as a FA for QF. She said JNB seems to be pretty popular and senior with a 2-3 day layover
: Does anyone like layovers, at least sometimes, at smaller US airports? In a sense, it might provide a respite from the hustle-and-bustle of the city,
: But not even close to as bad as ORD I can really only speak in an educated manner about international crews for both NW and AA, so here's for them: N
: What's the feelings from crews about BNA? I have always wondered what they all thought of our humble town. Please enlighten me.
: Thats just for MIA flights correct? I always thought the DFW-South America flights were more senior than the MIA ones.
: It is not bad as ORD but when it is a 0630 but I fly UA and since no crew base you are delayed a lot because the crew was late getting in the night b
: Interesting that you mentioned this as one of your favorites. We (HA) just hired a few ex ATA flight attendants and one of the girls told me that she
: Everytime I work the gate in ATW, whether its an XJ or 9E crew the first thing they ask is "wheres the gift shop that sells the cheese curds?" But if
: MIA is an incredibly junior base all around, even for the Europe flights MAD, CDG, etc. As for DFW, SCL and EZE are the most senior South American de
: I have never been a F/A but I used to work in the In-Flight department, Fos US West- I have heard layovers in ELP,ABQ, and SMF are not the most glamur
: Favourites: SFO, HKG, KIX, LAX Least favourites: PER, NRT Most overrated: YVR Sadly missed: TPE Glad they're gone: PPT (call me crazy)
: You know, I've been to Paris a gazillion times and speak fluent french, but every time I am there on a layover, I am astounded that I get paid to spen
: Pardon my ignorance, but in the US are the guidelines for "minimum rest" dependent on the airline, or are they federally regulated? I would assume 7-8
: I've overnighted there a few times, and I like it there. The hotel is pleasant, a good selection of eating and recreation, and the people are nice, t
: Quite the opposite.... 7 to 8 hours rest is VERY short, almost completely unheard of. I'm not sure if there is an international layover that is that
: Ditto for DL. My personal favorites of the regions that I have flown, all must be downtown, are: United States: SAV (fun town with many awesome tours
: for a decent length layover my personal favorites are: Seattle and San Diego (and not just cause i live there), and BOS (though, not between Nov-march
: Girls, girls, girls... this is not manhunt.
: I'm definitely curious what foreign crews think of IAH! What's the HOU layover situation like for you at B6?
: We used to fly to CTS in winter... that was amazing! Skifields close by, great food, often up to 100hr slips. I personally quite like FRA... although
: When I was a pilot for Chautauqua, I loved the layovers in IPT, Williamsport, PA. It has a great small town feeling (except for the mid-summer week o
: last time i was there, i got a VERY nice view of just the runway... :-P now it wouldn't be so bad if we were at IAH! at least i'd get views of some w
: It has been said before but a good trip is dependent on how good/bad the flight is, a good crew and the length of the layover, however, if I had a goo
: I like a lot of layovers: KUL,SIN, JFK,LAX,MNL,BKK,JNB but my favourite would probably have to be CPT!!! The scenery,the food, the wine, the people an
: I Bet you can guess what airline. Favorite: EWR MCO FLL YVR YOW YYZ Worst: RSW TPA LAX YYC PHX (Very Bad Experiences)
: Nice to see someone likes ROC! Though,most crews probably only overnight here,so there isn't much to see.
: Isn't this like asking what are the crew's favorite and least favorite foods? No two people like the same thing. Whatever I may like you may hate, tha