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Fastest Route Between SFO And GIG  
User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8463 times:

Hi pals… I will be commuting between SFO & GIG for next 6 months (Every other weeks!) and looking for the fastest routes between SFO & GIG. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Cheers,

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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8425 times:

SFO-IAH-GIG-CO
SFO-MIA-GIG-AA
SFO-ATL-GIG: DL


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3285 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8411 times:

Pretty good options with the US carriers.

  • AA via MIA
  • CO via IAH
  • UA via IAD
  • DL via ATL

Takes between 16 and 18 hours at quickest for each option. Guess it depends which FF programme you're with.

Regards
MH



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User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8405 times:

Thank you COERJ145 & MotorHussy. I am with *A, but unfortunately it seems the longest trips are with UA and CO. I wish TAM start flying to SFO  Yeah sure

Cheers.

[Edited 2008-10-09 18:30:43]

User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8381 times:

DL 1068/61
SFO-ATL-GIG
15hr 28 min

DL 60/1065
GIG-ATL-SFO
18hr 17 min



The good old days: Delta L-1011s at MSY
User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3728 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8365 times:

The fastest way is with CO flying through IAH while the seasonal nonstop IAH-GIG is online. I believe it's the absolute record to fly CO430 connecting to CO129 on the SFO-GIG leg. On the way back it's CO128 and CO378. Note that the flight is not daily and starts only in December.

Depart: 14:17 San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Arrive: 20:02 Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
Flight Time: 3 hr 45 mn Flight: CO430
Aircraft: Boeing 737-900

Change Planes. Connect time in Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental) is 58 minutes.

Depart: 21:00 Houston, TX (IAH - Intercontinental)
Arrive: 11:10 +1 Day Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (GIG)
Flight Time: 10 hr 10 mn Flight: CO129
Aircraft: Boeing 767-400ER



Although it takes a bit longer, UA offers a good solution with UA873 on SFO-GIG and UA874, both via IAD. It retains the same number all the way, but there is a plane change. IMHO IAD's immigration is really fast in the early morning, so it's a real good alternative. I don't know if you will have a guaranteed connection, since the tags have the same numbers, but I always like to think there is, because it would be very strange to have a tag-on flight leaving/arriving before/after the arrival/departure of the main flight.

[Edited 2008-10-09 18:45:24]

User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3728 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8357 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 3):
Thank you COERJ145 & MotorHussy. I am with *A, but unfortunately it seems the longest trips are with UA and CO. I wish TAM start flying to SFO

What?

United 0873
Depart: SFO 12:45 PM
Arrive: GIG 11:00 AM
Arrives next day
1-stop
16h 15m
Plane change
6,603 miles traveled

United 0874
Depart: GIG 11:25 PM
Arrive: SFO 12:02 PM
Arrives next day
1-stop
18h 37m
Plane change
6,603 miles traveled


User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8321 times:

Thank you very much C010T3. The options you pointed are great.

Cheers.


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3728 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8303 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 7):
Thank you very much C010T3. The options you pointed are great.

Cheers.

I am always glad to help. I hope you feel welcome in Rio when you arrive.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9672 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8284 times:



Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 4):
DL 1068/61
SFO-ATL-GIG
15hr 28 min

DL 60/1065
GIG-ATL-SFO
18hr 17 min

I will say this if you fly DL via ATL at least you will be on a B767-432ER which has AVOD in both F and Y. If any of that matters to you.  Wink



yep.
User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8228 times:



Quoting C010T3 (Reply 5):
The fastest way is with CO flying through IAH while the seasonal nonstop IAH-GIG is online. I believe it's the absolute record to fly CO430 connecting to CO129 on the SFO-GIG leg. On the way back it's CO128 and CO378. Note that the flight is not daily and starts only in December.

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Continental is hands down the best US product to the Rio de Janeiro market. The crews are excellent, excellent, excellent. IAH and the E concourse is so very easy to transit in. I would recommend CO over any other US airline after years of experience on IAH-GRU-GIG.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9672 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8212 times:



Quoting Lambert747 (Reply 10):
Continental is hands down the best US product to the Rio de Janeiro market. The crews are excellent, excellent, excellent. IAH and the E concourse is so very easy to transit in. I would recommend CO over any other US airline after years of experience on IAH-GRU-GIG.

Sorry but I have to say its a very very close race with them and DL. Plus DL is year round non-stop ATL-GIG. Both flights are on a 764 and with DL Almost all ATL-SFO flights are 763s which in F you get a BizE meal. The seats are about the same and both of the DL planes have AVOD. CO might have a little better seat than DL (wider) but thats about it. By far not the best hands down.  Wink



yep.
User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8092 times:

And this is the scenic route:
TA SFO-SAL-SJO-LIM-GIG
(SJO transfer may not be necessary)

I believe that CO and DL may provide immediate connections between GIG and SJC/SMF too.



I don't work for COPA Airlines!
User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7930 times:

Thank you every one for your feedbacks. It seems the followings are available options:
AA via MIA
DL via ATL
CO via IAH
UA via IAD
TAM via MIA or JFK
TA via SFO/SAL/SJO/LIM

Among above options I decided to try the followings:

UA: Because I am 1K at UA and they have done a wonderful job in spoling me with me courtesy upgrades most times  Smile

DL: I haven't flew on 767-400 before. I would love to try it for the first time on DL.

CO: I haven't flew any international route with CO before and I want to try them for the first time. Hopefully I can get miles from them to my UA Mileage Plus (Since they annouunced partnership with UA while ago).

TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

The ones that I think I will not try are AA & TA for the following reasons:

AA- I have few with them and nothing was special about them.

TA- I would love to fly with TA, but not from SFO to GIG. Such a long route on single aile plane is alittle too much for me. I cannot stand single aile planes for more than 5 hours. After 5 hours I start biting the walls  Big grin

Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

Cheers.


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3728 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7899 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):

Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

Someday? Yes. Soon? No.


User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3285 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7865 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

And it's always good to fly an airline of your destination country to give you a taste of what to expect.

Obrigado
MH



come visit the south pacific
User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7853 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

VP had plans to operate to SFO

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/compa...-RioGrandense-Company-History.html

"VASP announced intentions to begin passenger service to Tokyo with connections in Los Angeles and San Francisco, a move that would open the door for the company to begin cargo operations, as well as tap into demand for passenger service by Brazil's substantial Japanese population."


User currently offlineSalMonela From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7836 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
Lastly, I wanted to ask your opinion, is there going to be a chance that someday we see a non-stop flight from SFO to Brazil?

Not SFO, but rumored that DL may launch LAX to Brazil (I'd assume GRU), so assuming decent connecting flight times, that will be your shortest elapsed time. As DL has immigrations/customs all in T5, it would be a painless connection too.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7810 times:

As far as direct routes go, SFO-GIG overflies Phoenix, then follows the Rio Grande, the Yucutan peninsula, then over the extreme easter part of Honduras and the extreme northeastern tip of Nicaragua, then VERY close to Panama City and Bogota, then over the Amazon Basin to GIG.

SFO-GIG = 5739 nm
SFO-PTY-GIG = 2855 + 2885 = 5740 nm
SFO-BOG-GIG = 3291 + 2448 = 5739 nm

Unfortunately, neither COPA nor Avianca fly to SFO...

SFO-IAH-GIG = 1421 + 4359 = 5780 nm
SFO-MIA-GIG = 2246 + 3617 = 5863 nm
SFO-ATL-GIG = 1859 + 4115 = 5974 nm

In the end, it's going to come down to schedule and price along with FF benefits you will accrue.

Safe travels to you!!



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User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7782 times:



Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

Hey, TAM in my opinion is the worst airline I have ever flown. TAM lacks organization. Very poor frequent flyer program. What you will have trouble is changing tickets, etc. Nothing can be done on their website. They still live in the world of faxes to accomplish things. I would stick with UA, AA or DL. UA because of your status, AA for the largest network to Brazil and DL for great service.


User currently offlineLambert747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7746 times:



Quoting SalMonela (Reply 17):
As DL has immigrations/customs all in T5, it would be a painless connection too.

There would be no point as DL pulled the plug on SFO, SJC, OAK, SMF-LAX. There is nothing to connect to for connections within California and within the West Coast with the exception of SLC at LAX on DL metal.


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6648 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7698 times:

I would stick with UA since you are a 1K and can get upgraded with your systemwide certs.

You can not yet get miles with UA for flying on JJ or CO. It was said it will take JJ 12-18 months before they are officially are a Star Alliance member. CO should be joining sooner but you can not yet get UA miles for flying CO.

Half of UA's 763 fleeet now has the new fleet beds in C with AVOD.

The777Man



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User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 7654 times:

I've flown to GIG and GRU many times. Of all the U.S. based airlines, I like CO the best, especially if you are traveling in bizfirst.

That said, if you have intra-Brazil flying to do, take TAM. I've been impressed on all my flights between GIG-GRU and GRU-Florianapolis.


User currently offlineAmax1977 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7569 times:



Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
You can not yet get miles with UA for flying on JJ or CO.

I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know. I will stick with UA then.

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 18):
As far as direct routes go, SFO-GIG overflies Phoenix, then follows the Rio Grande, the Yucutan peninsula, then over the extreme easter part of Honduras and the extreme northeastern tip of Nicaragua, then VERY close to Panama City and Bogota, then over the Amazon Basin to GIG.

Very interesting route. Thanks for sharing.

And thanks to all other a.net pals who shared their thoughts in this topic.


I will post my trip notes and feedbacks as I will go through the journey.

Cheers.

Amax1977


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11458 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7509 times:
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Quoting Amax1977 (Thread starter):
Hi pals… I will be commuting between SFO & GIG for next 6 months (Every other weeks!) and looking for the fastest routes between SFO & GIG. Any suggestions? Thanks.

I believe you already got all options...

Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
DL: I haven't flew on 767-400 before. I would love to try it for the first time on DL.

DL 764 to GIG is a very nice flight. I made this twice and would recommend. On Economy you will have PTV with AVOD.

Quoting Amax1977 (Reply 13):
TAM: I haven't flew with them. But all I've been hearing about them is good stuff, so I will give them a try for sure. Especially that TAM is joining *A and I can get my miles!

Just flew yesterday GIG-MIA on it's B767-300ER and after DL (i lost AA flight) MIA-JFK. It's a very nice 2-1-2 conf. on Business with very comfortable seats and a personal entertainment unit, good food and nice service.

Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 19):
Hey, TAM in my opinion is the worst airline I have ever flown. TAM lacks organization. Very poor frequent flyer program. What you will have trouble is changing tickets, etc. Nothing can be done on their website. They still live in the world of faxes to accomplish things. I would stick with UA, AA or DL. UA because of your status, AA for the largest network to Brazil and DL for great service.

It depends, i believe the opening of GIG flights will help TAM to improve it's service. I saw yesterday at least 4 pax from Minas on Business Class, and in the end they were very satisfied about the flight, how easy is to connect and no overcrowding for boarding. JJ8056 was full (30C/175Y).

Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
You can not yet get miles with UA for flying on JJ or CO

Yes, you can get miles with UA flying on JJ ! They code-share with TAM !
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,52289,00.html



New York + Rio de Janeiro = One of the best combinations !
25 The777Man : Thanks LipeGIG for the correction. Although from SFO, it's not very convient to fly JJ unless they have started JFK-GIG nonstop. Accrual for flying C
26 LipeGIG : Agree, considering UA does not fly SFO-MIA. They will begin JFK-GIG on Nov 2nd.
27 LAXintl : Amax1977 being a UA flyer and 1K, I would definately stick with UA for now. Not only will you have opportunities to upgrade using miles or your system
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