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Longest Flights Without IFE?  
User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6073 times:
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Out of curiosity, what are some of the longest flights that operate regularly without IFE, and who operates them? (PTVs only...projectors/drop downs don't count - about as good as nothing IMO).

Thanks in advance!


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User currently offlineHOONS90 From Malaysia, joined Aug 2001, 2999 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6031 times:
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KE's ICN-YYZ flight (10642km) is currently operating without PTV equipped planes (in Economy class). That may change starting next month.

[Edited 2008-10-20 14:37:17]


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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2872 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6021 times:

WN transcons have to be on that list. I don't know what transcons they have, but I am sure they have a few from the DC area to the west coast. I know they have ISP - LAS and that is a long trip too.


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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

AA's ORD-SFO/LAX are 4hrs in duration on a Super 80. DFW-SEA is also up there, probably longer.


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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6013 times:

All LHs 744 long haul flight are with out PTVs. I cant bear to fly with them anymore to LAX from FRA, even if their service is great.


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User currently offlinePHLstudent From United States of America, joined May 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5994 times:

United's 747s that operate LAX/SFO-SYD have no PTV's in Y, thats 14 or 15 hours with only the overhead. Atleast until the refits are all done.

User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1003 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5988 times:



Quoting PHLstudent (Reply 5):
United's 747s that operate LAX/SFO-SYD have no PTV's in Y, thats 14 or 15 hours with only the overhead. Atleast until the refits are all done.

Same goes for Northwest's 747s, I believe. My sister flew DTW-KIX in Y about a year ago with only the projector.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8893 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5982 times:

United 747s in coach SFO-SYD are PTV-less to my knowledge.

User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5967 times:



Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 1):
KE's ICN-YYZ flight (10642km) is currently operating without PTV equipped planes (in Economy class)

Same goes for KE's ICN-TLV. 10 hours with nothing, in either class!

Jeez, even UA is refitting its aircrafts faster than those guys.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5961 times:

Hard to believe that some 50 years ago, people were able to manage 20 hours plus on a Trans Atlantic flight without so much as a screen on board ....  duck   Wink

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User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1441 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 5955 times:

Even though TK now has most of its aircraft equipped with PTVs, a few years ago, I flew HKG-IST on an Airbus 340-300 without PTV. 8022 kms and 12 hr 36 mins of torture  Smile Thank God I could sleep for about 6 hours.


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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5951 times:

Since IB doesn't have PTVs in economy in any of its long haul aircraft then we have a good amount of pretty long flights.

The longest nonstop flight operated by IB is MAD-SCL (6648mi/10700km according to the great circle mapper) which takes over 13 hours.



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User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 806 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5949 times:



Quoting PHLstudent (Reply 5):
United's 747s that operate LAX/SFO-SYD have no PTV's in Y, thats 14 or 15 hours with only the overhead. Atleast until the refits are all done.

Hi

UA are also doing LAX-MEL Direct for a short time. They have no plans to put in PTV on the 744? Only C and F are getting upgraded?


User currently offlineDYflyer From Norway, joined May 2006, 676 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5920 times:

I don't quite understand peoples obsession with IFE. I have no problem with flying without IFE. Bring a book, a MP3-player, sleep some and talk to your neighbors and the time flies by.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19381 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 5881 times:



Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 7):
United 747s in coach SFO-SYD are PTV-less to my knowledge.

Lovely. I'm doing that in two weeks' time. :-/


User currently offlineAcNDTTech From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 5865 times:

It just depends on what you call IFE. I kinda like watching people go crazy trying to find something to do. LOL.

User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17051 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 5851 times:



Quoting DYflyer (Reply 13):
don't quite understand peoples obsession with IFE. I have no problem with flying without IFE. Bring a book, a MP3-player, sleep some and talk to your neighbors and the time flies by.

Well if you fly on a flight that is +11hrs, then you will see what we mean



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User currently offlineCastropRauxel From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week ago) and read 5842 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 16):
Well if you fly on a flight that is +11hrs, then you will see what we mean

11+?? I lose it after 8!  Wow!


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5834 times:
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Quoting AcNDTTech (Reply 15):
It just depends on what you call IFE. I kinda like watching people go crazy trying to find something to do. LOL.

That is usually entertaining enough. Big grin

And reading books or reading newspapers is not considered as entertainment nowadays  duck 

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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5828 times:



Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 11):
The longest nonstop flight operated by IB is MAD-SCL (6648mi/10700km according to the great circle mapper) which takes over 13 hours.

Similar here, I've done many EZE-MAD on IB, around 12 hrs ... but the last two I was upgraded so those don't count Big grin

The worst though was another EZE-MAD but on AR. Service was great and the seat on the 744 was much more comfortable than on the A346, but their main IFE broke down, so we didn't even have that for 12 hours (AR has no PTV's in eco either).
The good thing was that for the first and only time in my life I actually manged to sleep around 5 or 6 hours  Wink



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User currently offline02hilliert From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5822 times:

I can't give anyone a worldwide look at this, but I know Monarch's longest flight with zero IFE was LGW-YDF, which was 5hrs 50mins without even overhead screens.


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User currently offlineDYflyer From Norway, joined May 2006, 676 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5819 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 16):
Well if you fly on a flight that is +11hrs, then you will see what we mean

Well, i have several long haul flights without IFE. Latest one was 10,5 hours on a SU IL96 in September. No problem.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19381 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5787 times:



Quoting DYflyer (Reply 21):

Well, i have several long haul flights without IFE. Latest one was 10,5 hours on a SU IL96 in September. No problem.

Then you must have superhuman anti-boredom powers.

For me, I have ADHD and I'm hyperactive. I love a short flight, but I am *DREADING* my SFO-SYD flight. Just dreading it.


User currently offlinePITIngres From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1121 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5780 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 16):
Well if you fly on a flight that is +11hrs, then you will see what we mean

It's entirely individual. I managed EWR-PEK, 13 hours, and as soon as we were in the air I turned off the annoying PTV and settled into my books. The flight was a pain in the ass, literally, but I wasn't bored.

If you're squirmy by nature, or not into reading, then I would imagine that the IFE is a godsend.



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User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7115 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5755 times:

All of AA 767s which fly long haul from ORD,DFW,MIA and JFK to points all across Europe and South America. But I would much rather have the drop down/over head screen than nothing. I remember flying MIA-MAD on an IB 747-300 in the summer of 2002, all it had was one big projection screen in the front of the section, now that was a horrible IFE the movie choices where bad on the way there anyway.
My personal longest flight with out any type of IFE would only be around 3 hours BOS-MIA on a MD-80.



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25 B747forever : He, he. I have to agree with you
26 DeltAirlines : DL's longest is ATL-LOS, 5843 miles on a 767-300 ER. Around 12 hours of flight. As for my longest flight without any IFE of any type (incl. overhead m
27 AA737-823 : As far as the original question goes: This year, I've done LAX-AMS on a KLM 747-406M. Great flight, but NO PTV's. It was about 11 hours, block to bloc
28 EZEIZA : If I can, I will chose a carrier that has PTV's since I am 99% of the time a non-sleeper, no matter how tired I am, and the long haul passes by for me
29 DocLightning : BUT... they had fine dining on bone china with attentive stewards and stewardesses (not F/A's), large, comfortable seats, and most flights weren't mo
30 Viscount724 : I wouldn't call any airline food that's prepared hours in advance and then reheated "fine dining" but it was definintely better than today, especiall
31 Kimberlyrj : As a CSD (cabin service director) one of the worst things that can happen to me at the start of the flight is when you power up the IFE and nothing ha
32 USAirALB : they are getting PTV's in coach US PHL-ATH is 11 hrs.
33 DocLightning : Will they have it by Monday? *hopes, but does not count*
34 Daviation : The younger people on the board won't like my answer, but some of my very first flights were across the Atlantic on DC-8-63s of ONA and Capitol Intl.
35 Soxfan : Source? I feel like I've heard the opposite, but I could be wrong. DL has a couple of other long routes on their 763s with no PTVs in coach, includin
36 DocLightning : I mean, IFE only got common within the last 10 years. BUT... before 1990, a 14-hour flight was not possible. Now they are. And 14 hours is a long, lo
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