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User currently offlineNRT744 From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4640 times:

Why did UA paint their blue up to the window only on their 744's?
Why is the Japanese flag located either on the left or on top of the L1 door?
What's the point in removing the English title on NH? ANA is not as easy as PIA.
TN needs to do something with that red flag under the blue. What do they want to emphasize?
Why didn't OS paint their engine and belly with the same kind of blue? Is there a reason?
I'm not really sure if there's a legitimate answer to any of these.
Can anyone please help me?

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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4507 times:

Why are TG's engines white? It would look much better in purple!


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User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4430 times:



Quoting NRT744 (Thread starter):
Why didn't OS paint their engine and belly with the same kind of blue? Is there a reason?

Because it looks better the way it is now  duck . But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess  Smile.

On topic, I think there is no real answer to your question. The PR departements of/PR agencies hired by the respective airlines probably made some surveys, and finally designed the livery after what they think would strengthen and advertise the brand the most.



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User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1800 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Please don't let it bother you so much that you lose sleep  Smile


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User currently offlineManfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

I think this is an interesting thread. If I may indulge:

Why don't Quantas paint their 743 engines white?

Why did United do such a crummy job of removing old paint before applying new scheme?

Why is CO's paint scheme so timeless? It's as fresh as the day it was introduced!!??? Haha.



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4898 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4217 times:



Quoting Manfredj (Reply 4):
Why don't Quantas paint their 743 engines white?

Quantas? Who they?



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User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2164 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 4119 times:

Why won't AF completely redo their loser livery?
Why did FL put magenta and blue stripes next to each other? The way they clash is hideous.

I can probably add more complaints as I think of them.  Wink



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8603 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 4 hours ago) and read 4092 times:
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why did TG trade a timeless elegant livery for a tacky mess ?

why dont SK go back to the Viking longboat rather than the strange current livery ?

and what was MX thinking when they agreed to their new livery ?



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User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4062 times:



Quoting Manfredj (Reply 4):
Why is CO's paint scheme so timeless? It's as fresh as the day it was introduced!!??? Haha.

Because they've been bankruptcy free since the early 1990s, when that scheme was introduced  Wink No need to change when you haven't spoiled your image haha


User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4035 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 7):
and what was MX thinking when they agreed to their new livery ?

I agree.... this new scheme is an absolute shocker!!!!


User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3984 times:

Why don't CI go back to be the flag carrier of ROC (Republic of China) i.e. Taiwan?


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User currently offlineNRT744 From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3972 times:



Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 2):
they think would strengthen and advertise the brand the most.

I guess it's true, because it's bothering me.


User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Why when looking from the right of a new NWA livery, the logo's triangle is in the Northeast direction?


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User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2706 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

Why did NW change their paint scheme while in bankruptcy? NW could've saved money just keeping the old livery until out of bankruptcy.

Why do most airlines have a colorful tail but a white or silver fuselage. If you're changing the livery do something with the fuselage!

I remember spotting at MSP and watching an AA MD-80 land. The reg. was upside down. It isn't part of the livery but how did the reg. get upside down?



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20244 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3881 times:



Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 8):

Because they've been bankruptcy free since the early 1990s, when that scheme was introduced Wink No need to change when you haven't spoiled your image haha

I once read a comment on their scheme that the problem with it is that it's too "blandly inoffensive."

That just about sums it up. Honestly, if they painted the underbelly of the plane the same color of the tail, that would make it look much better.

Actually, I liked the meatball.


User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3732 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
That just about sums it up. Honestly, if they painted the underbelly of the plane the same color of the tail, that would make it look much better.

Actually, it does seem like it would look nice, but of course, there are those that would disagree. I agree with the meatball scheme, but I think there was too much negative connotation associated with it and Frank Lorenzo. I am sure besides re-branding and freshening their image after the bankruptcy, the new scheme helped employee morale, which was one of Bethune's goals.


User currently offlineNRT744 From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3542 times:



Quoting StarAlliance38 (Reply 12):
Why when looking from the right of a new NWA livery, the logo's triangle is in the Northeast direction?

Exactly!! It just seems like they took off the "N" from the previous scheme.

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 13):
Why do most airlines have a colorful tail but a white or silver fuselage. If you're changing the livery do something with the fuselage!

They do this because there would be less paint to remove when they "sell" their aircraft to another airline. It saves time and money.


User currently offlinePGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2839 posts, RR: 45
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3407 times:



Quoting NRT744 (Thread starter):
Why did UA paint their blue up to the window only on their 744's?
Why is the Japanese flag located either on the left or on top of the L1 door?
What's the point in removing the English title on NH? ANA is not as easy as PIA.
TN needs to do something with that red flag under the blue. What do they want to emphasize?
Why didn't OS paint their engine and belly with the same kind of blue? Is there a reason?

Why don't you ask the marketing consultants that devised the schemes?

Why do you let it bother you so much, it's just paint!  Wink


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7643 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

One thing that kind of bugs me is how some airlines (such as LH) don't do anything with their winglets on their aircraft such as the B744 or A330/340s. Great spot for the companies name or logo such as how KL has done it on their aircraft.


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User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

Why aren't there more 'natural' silver schemes like AA? I really like it - as it's so different .... very cool, very metal  Smile

User currently offlineA340313X From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3235 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 7):
and what was MX thinking when they agreed to their new livery ?

Shoot me if you wish but I quite like it. I thought the old one was horribly bland and boring. At least the new one shows they have some stones. It's out there interesting and certainly unmistakable, but that's just my opinion.


User currently offlineNRT744 From Japan, joined Feb 2005, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3219 times:



Quoting Ansett767 (Reply 19):
Why aren't there more 'natural' silver schemes like AA?

VS and JQ are silver, but is AA using special paint? I always thought that such "shine" is only possible on Boeing aircrafts because the body is mainly metal. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


User currently offlineTR763 From Brazil, joined Mar 2001, 777 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3184 times:



Quoting NRT744 (Reply 21):
always thought that such "shine" is only possible on Boeing aircrafts because the body is mainly metal. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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The AA scheme is bare metal, not painted aircraft, and it´s very different from the silver paint used on VS, JQ, SU...
 Wink



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User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

I used to love the old bare aluminum livery of USAir.

American is pretty much the only one left doing that.


User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3107 times:



Quoting TheGMan (Reply 23):

American is pretty much the only one left doing that.

It's soooooooo cool- and probably saves them a LOAD in weight and also in cost of paint! Anyone know how much it would cost to paint a UA plane vs AA? Is it substantial or?


25 Post contains links RussianJet : Turkish airline Pegasus (H9) have a livery that irritates me every time I see it, just because it really does look like a five-year-old designed it. T
26 Post contains links and images Superfly : Why did this ever happen? This has to be the worst thing anyone could do to an aircraft besides crashing it. The HORROR! The HORROR! View Large View M
27 TDubJFK : what livery? its just white with some titles, no diff from many others (ie AF,DL, TK)[Edited 2008-12-27 21:17:23]
28 RussianJet : Yes, except for that disgusting cheese-coloured tail and some titles that look as though they nipped out to the local stationery shop, bought the che
29 Smcmac32msn : Atleast there is no risk of a mid-air involving those A/C.... they can be spotted (and avoided) from across the continent!
30 Northwest727 : I have to agree with you
31 UltimateDelta : I'm surprised nobody's mentioned Spirit's new livery based on what else I've read about it here. It looks like something a two-year old had drawn. The
32 NRT744 : Then, what about recent ones? Aren't they using other materials other than metal?
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