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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3099 posts, RR: 4
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4223 times:

From 1971 to 1986, a full 15 years, Air-India maintained two distinct liveries, one for their B707 fleet and the other for their B742 and A300 fleet.......


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Were there any other airlines that did this...? I would exclude the instances of two liveries existing side by side during the transition phase from the old to the new and the special one-off liveries.....I'm talking of a distinct, separate livery for an entire aircraft type in the fleet.....

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User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4112 times:

Hawaiian dis through most of the 1990s and early 2000s.

DC10s:

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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3364 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4112 times:

Aeroflot had a different livery per airplane type. Only after the introduction of the Tu-154 the standard livery was introduced.


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User currently offlineRunway24R From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4078 times:

I suppose British Airways had one livery for their Concorde fleet whilst the rest had the world tails for a few years...

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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4058 times:


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Basically, props wore different colors than jets.



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User currently offlineSWABrian From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4027 times:

Delta had different liveries for their CV-880s and DC-8s when they were introduced. You will find that most of the old trunk carriers had new jet liveries and kept their props like the DC-6, DC-7, Connies, and Convairliners in old liveries.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

When NW introduced the livery on the DC-8 below in 1960 which lasted until 1969 when the livery shown on the 747 was introduced, they didn't change the previous livery on propeller types (DC-6B, DC-7C, L188 Electra) which remained in the 1950s livery until they were retired.

I think some L188 Electras survived with NW until about 1971-72 with the 1950s livery, a couple of years after the livery on the 747 was introduced, so the L188s were then two liveries behind.

1960 and 1969 liveries.


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1950s livery (the first 2 of NW's 5 DC-8-30s, their first jets, were delivered in that livery and the last 3 in the livery on the DC-8 above).


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Going by Aloha73G's example, American had a "different" livery for their A300's vs. the rest of the fleet:


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Hawaiian's DC-10's were ex-AA birds, so instead of painting, the silver polish was left on.

As for the A300's, the original models were made of different material that did not lend itself to the reflective polished look of Boeing's or McDonnell Douglas, so AA used a gray paint for a while to "match" the fleet.

Eventually, the A300's got the polished look, so the "one-off" scheme didn't last:


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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3953 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
Going by Aloha73G's example, American had a "different" livery for their A300's vs. the rest of the fleet:

Hawaiian's DC-10's were ex-AA birds, so instead of painting, the silver polish was left on.

Except that the two HA liveries Aloha showed us are different beyond just painted vs. bare metal. The stripes are also different.



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User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4942 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3902 times:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):

If NW and Airlink will count here, then I think AA and MQ clearly qualify too...


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User currently offlineNWOrientDC10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3865 times:
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Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
American had a "different" livery for their A300's vs. the rest of the fleet:



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 7):
so AA used a gray paint

It was the same with EA's A300's; they had either the gray or white livery:


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Eventually, the A300's got the polished look, so the "one-off" scheme didn't last:

I don't think any of EA's were in the bare metal, polished scheme like this DC-9:


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Also, EA's A300's were probably their only a/c to have a gray scheme.

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User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2118 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3861 times:



Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 10):
Also, EA's A300's were probably their only a/c to have a gray scheme.

No, actually some of their 727s also were gray. Maybe some L-1011s were, too. Or maybe just white.



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User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3847 times:



Quoting San747 (Reply 9):

If NW and Airlink will count here, then I think AA and MQ clearly qualify too...

If you look closely enough, nearly all the regional brand liveries - at least the first generations thereof - varied from their manline counterparts: US and MQ both had white instead of bare metal. NW's orient scheme also had grey instead of bare metal, and then of course went red when the bowling shoe came out. The Saul-bass era UA livery had stripes that fanned out on the Express fleet and a different logo on the tail.



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User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3825 times:

QF is another one at the moment - merely because of the time it takes to shift all planes over to the new identity.

At one time, they did have a blue/white 747 with one of the BA world tails, but it was the exception, rather than the rule. At another time, they had a few different colour schemes - including the Australia Asia colours, and later the "Australian" brand - which was actually a very clever and eye-catching play on the traditional Qantas kangaroo logo.

While not a dual livery airline, BA did have a SQ liveried Concorde in its fleet. BA on one side, SQ on the other. It was Alpha-Delta, one of the earlier Concordes in the BA fleet. It operated under numerous regos too - N94AD (for America), and G-N94AD (for elsewhere).


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3801 times:



Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 10):
Eventually, the A300's got the polished look, so the "one-off" scheme didn't last:

As far as I know, that's not correct. I can't recall ever seeing an EA A300 in bare metal. In fact, I think AA's A300s are the only Airbus aircraft anywhere in the world that do not have fully painted fuselages. AA had to wait for the Airbus warranty to expire before removing the paint as Airbus considers the paint to protect against corrosion.


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3798 times:



Quoting Cpd (Reply 13):
QF is another one at the moment - merely because of the time it takes to shift all planes over to the new identity.



Quoting Gr8Circle (Thread starter):
exclude the instances of two liveries existing side by side during the transition phase from the old to the new and the special one-off liveries.....I'm talking of a distinct, separate livery for an entire aircraft type in the fleet.....




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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3099 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3728 times:



Quoting San747 (Reply 9):
If NW and Airlink will count here, then I think AA and MQ clearly qualify too...



Quoting JBo (Reply 12):
If you look closely enough, nearly all the regional brand liveries - at least the first generations thereof - varied from their manline counterparts:

I would not include the regional brands...those are created with a distinct identity of their own, yet there is a need to retain the link to the parent.....so, can't really count them....

Thanks for all the replies above.....it's been very useful reading....


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3718 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 16):
I would not include the regional brands...those are created with a distinct identity of their own, yet there is a need to retain the link to the parent.....so, can't really count them....

Then what about Mesaba's and (earlier) Pinnacle/Express I's case with the props in red and the jets like a Northwest plane?



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User currently offlineGr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3099 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3709 times:



Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 17):
Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 16):
I would not include the regional brands...those are created with a distinct identity of their own, yet there is a need to retain the link to the parent.....so, can't really count them....

Then what about Mesaba's and (earlier) Pinnacle/Express I's case with the props in red and the jets like a Northwest plane?

Well, this is my personal opinion, and some may differ....but I would not count it.....the regional needs to have it's own identity and that's why the livery differs....in the case of AI, there was no difference...all three aircraft types in the opening thread were proper AI and nothing else....


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