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Ilyushin IL-86 - How To Fly One In 2009?  
User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Posted (5 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 12499 times:

IL-86#ID4205449" target=_blank>http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...searchid=4205449&s=IL-86#ID4205449

The above thread is now archived so I thought I'd start a new one in the hope of establishing some options for flying on an IL-86. Not only options but also how to book, as Aeroflot-Don, for example, only has a Russian website. It seems also that D9 flights are not displayed in Amadeus.

In the previous thread, user Loran mentioned that the weekly Ural Airlines IL-86 flight to Antalya was bookable on the Ural Airlines website, but I can't see Antalya listed there. I guess this is a summer flight.

I'm considering a (first) trip to Russia as early as February with the primary aim of getting a flight on the IL-86. I live in the UAE and beleive Aeroflot-Don may operate from DXB (to Rostov?) but can't find any way of displaying these flights or seeing what aircraft type is operated.

It seems the most difficult part of flying the IL-86 is finding and booking a flight! Hope we can put our heads together and share some options. Any advice appreciated.

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User currently offlineBT001 From Latvia, joined Aug 2006, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 10 hours ago) and read 12450 times:

DXB-ROV operated by Boeing 737-500.

Вылет:

01:00

Прибытие:

06:10

Вт, 17-фев-09

Ростов , RU (ROV)

Вт, 17-фев-09

Дубаи , AE (DXB)

Aeroflot - Don

Прямые / D9 409

Салон: Эконом / Боинг 737-500


User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1394 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12386 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Thread starter):
Not only options but also how to book, as Aeroflot-Don, for example, only has a Russian website. It seems also that D9 flights are not displayed in Amadeus.

Aeroflot Don actually has a booking engine in english. Just go to their web site and click at the left on "online booking". I have to admit the booking tool does not work very nice,it's hard to find something in there  Smile.



Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 12366 times:

Has Aeroflot Don given a schedule for withdrawing these beasts, I seem to remember something about them getting pulled soonish? Anyway, here's how I did it; most of the summer holiday flights which the Aeroflot group operate can be booked through their website, so I played around a bit until I found the ones operated by Aeroflot Don and the Il-86 - it took a while, but the site it in full English and works well.

I booked SIP-SVO-GYD on the Il-86 and Tu154, payment taken no problem, but I did have to go to their ticket office to have them issued, presumably because of the Don flights. Total cost was from €179 one way in Economy, but I booked in Business Cass for €279 one way, all in. DXB was also possible from SIP via SVO - prices were much much higher though, because itineraries within the former Soviet Union are still classed as internal flight, hence are faaar cheaper. You could probably fly into somewhere like that though and then carry on to DXB on EK/local airline cheaper. In fact, you could have some real fun; user Pe@rson had a play about on their site sent me some possibly itineraries to the Russian Far-East on Il-96/Tu204/Tu154 and I think the Il-62 as well for €200-300 one way, but that would have meant getting a visa, so I had to give them a miss.


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineEDDL From Germany, joined Dec 2002, 738 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12346 times:

What about DME-SVX on Ural Airlines?

User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 12273 times:



Quoting EDDL (Reply 4):
What about DME-SVX on Ural Airlines?

There are no flights showing ILW in Amadeus for this route.

The only routs showing ILW in Amadeus show another aircraft type when you try and book it through the Ural website.

I can't find any ILW flights with Aeroflot Don or S7.

I shan't give up, but it is certainly proving difficult so far. I only have so much patience with these airlines' websites.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12267 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 5):

I have been looking for a IL 86 for quite some time now but I havn´t found anything. My source were pictures of flying IL86 on A.Net´s photodata base. I might check again on Tuesday when I am back in office but I have little hopes o find some flights.  Smile


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 12263 times:

Unfortunately S7 withdrew all the Russian types from their fleet in November of last year, they hadn't planned to do this straight until late 2009, but high oil prices and the lagging Russian economy meant they brought forward these retirements.

As far as I'm aware, Aeroflot Don don't operate the Il-86 during the winter - it's just put on peak routes for extra summer capacity, once I'd flown the example back to SVO all five were present at the airport, so I don't think they see much use. Keep an eye on destinations like Simferopol or Sochi though, because they can't venture to many destinations outside of the former Soviet Union due to noise regulations. The latter though has five rotations from MOW a day with the Tu154 in the summer, so perhaps one of these will be upgraded to an Il86.

Maybe these links regarding Atlant Soyouz Airlines may help you:

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080401/102730827.html

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3988275/


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12250 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7):

I asked a friend of mine who is a little into Russian aviation and he told me the best thing is to go during summer to MOW and get a ticket right at the counter. Sochi is always a good opportunity as well as flights to SSH or AYT.  Smile


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12196 times:

I found out today that Pulkovo/Rossiya has retired them. I have also read that Atlant-Soyuz has parked theirs up since the B738s arrived.

Looks like Ural Airlines and Aeroflot-Don are the only ones left. I've e-mailed a contact in Moscow who is doing some digging for me with Ural Airlines, so we shall see.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 7):
As far as I'm aware, Aeroflot Don don't operate the Il-86 during the winter - it's just put on peak routes for extra summer capacity, once I'd flown the example back to SVO all five were present at the airport, so I don't think they see much use. Keep an eye on destinations like Simferopol or Sochi though, because they can't venture to many destinations outside of the former Soviet Union due to noise regulations. The latter though has five rotations from MOW a day with the Tu154 in the summer, so perhaps one of these will be upgraded to an Il86.

Cheers. I'd noticed these destinations on flightstats when I searched for the ILW.

So what are your plans for this year's flying, Dan? My priority is the IL-86 but a trip to Syria to nab the Tu-134 & Yak-40 might also be in order - it is very easy from here yet I've put it off for nearly 4 years. Can't find any information on what the Trast Aero BAC One Elevens are up to, if anything and wish I'd gone to Kazakhstan in 2007 when they were flying to SCAT, or known about the one operating for Djibouti Airlines in April 2008. Bagged an IL-18 last month though Big grin. You going to Moldova for the airevents trip? I was going to but it is just a bit too expensive considering I'd also have to get there from AUH.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 12192 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 9):
So what are your plans for this year's flying, Dan? My priority is the IL-86 but a trip to Syria to nab the Tu-134 & Yak-40 might also be in order - it is very easy from here yet I've put it off for nearly 4 years. Can't find any information on what the Trast Aero BAC One Elevens are up to, if anything and wish I'd gone to Kazakhstan in 2007 when they were flying to SCAT, or known about the one operating for Djibouti Airlines in April 2008. Bagged an IL-18 last month though . You going to Moldova for the airevents trip? I was going to but it is just a bit too expensive considering I'd also have to get there from AUH.

Unfortunately I've not got many plans aside of the Il-18, just finish university and then try and get a job - this time last year I could have walked straight into one on a fairly decent salary, but since people stopped building houses and making developments there has been less need for Landscape Architects.  Sad That said, if I can I'm aiming to get to DXB via DOH so I can fly on one QR's A346, and then take Biman to Dacar so I can fly the B742. Do you know if it's definitely operating on these routes?

Good luck with the Il-86 - it's an amazing beast!  yes 


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12180 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 10):
That said, if I can I'm aiming to get to DXB via DOH so I can fly on one QR's A346, and then take Biman to Dacar so I can fly the B742. Do you know if it's definitely operating on these routes?

The BG B742 has been purely flying the DAC-JED route over the past few months. The current timetable according to Amadeus is as follows:

25FEB-24MAR MTWTFSS DAC JED JEDDAH.SA
1.34.67 2215DAC 0245JED*1 BG 035 747 YMTQN 0
.2..5.. 2215DAC 0445JED*1 BG 037 747 YMQTN 1

25FEB-24MAR MTWTFSS JED DAC DHAKA.BD
12.45.7 0345JED 1255DAC BG 036 747 YMTQN 0
..3..6. 0545JED 1715DAC BG 038 747 YMQTN 1


This keeps the B742 busy for the entire week. On days 2 & 5 the aircraft operates via CGP so it is possible to catch a ride on the domestic portion either way, your best bet being CGP-DAC on day 3 or 6 for the daylight.

Myself and a friend went to DAC last month with the aim of flying the B742, F28 & DC-10 with BG. The plan was as follows:

AUH-DAC EY A332
DAC-CGP BG B742
CGP-DAC BG F28
DAC-KTM BG DC10
KTM-BAH GF A343
BAH-AUH EY A332

The biggest problem with BG domestic flights is that you simply can't book them from outside Bangladesh, unless I guess as part of a through fare. We even visited the BG GSA here in AUH and they said that BG domestics could only be booked from within Bangladesh.

We arrived in Bangladesh and immediately tried for any combination of domestic flights which could include the F28 and/or the B742 but the BG schedule for that weekend was very different from that published in Amadeus. As it happenned, all flights were full and we didn't take any domestic flights. We hung on for 36 hours in Dhaka and just continued up to Kathmandu on the DC-10, which was great of course.

By the way, that weekend the B742 was operating to AUH (where we'd just come from!) and on to JED. I was in JED a few days later (to get on my IL-18) and noticed that a DC-10 was operating for Biman instead of the B742, so it does seem to get allocated to other flights - but in true Biman style these changes are last minute and unpredictable.

If you're going to go to Bangladesh, I reccommend avoiding Eid or any other holidays. At least then you have a chance of getting on some domestic flights. I hope to go back at some point this year, primarily to get on the F28, but we shall see.

If you decide to fly JED-DAC or vice versa on the BG B742, you don't need a visa for Saudi Arabia provided you are transiting within 8 hours. This is how I got away with it for the IL-18 trip JED-JIB.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12169 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):
If you decide to fly JED-DAC or vice versa on the BG B742, you don't need a visa for Saudi Arabia provided you are transiting within 8 hours. This is how I got away with it for the IL-18 trip JED-JIB.

Wow! Thank you so much for that information, the bit about a Saudi Visa is especially useful as this has put me off the idea of flying via JED in the past. On paper the trip doesn't look too expensive, but you never know what other costs you may experience whilst away.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 11):
The biggest problem with BG domestic flights is that you simply can't book them from outside Bangladesh, unless I guess as part of a through fare. We even visited the BG GSA here in AUH and they said that BG domestics could only be booked from within Bangladesh.

Had a similar problem in London when I visited the Biman ticket office, only to be told that they weren't authorised to sell tickets on Biman, not even international ones. A ticket office not authorised to sell tickets on it's own airline - it was one of the funniest things I've ever heard!  rotfl  I was though given a number for some backstreet travel agent who could get me tickets, supposedly even internal flights, but it was almost impossible to get through to and not very helpful when I eventually did.

I need to do it rally, as I still haven't been on a B747-200, and that's one type I desperately want to fly on.


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12164 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
I need to do it rally, as I still haven't been on a B747-200, and that's one type I desperately want to fly on.

Funnily enough, the -200 was the last one for me to get a flight on too. In order:

B744: VS/UA
B743: PK
B741SR/SUD: OX
B747SP: IR
B742M: PK

Anyway let me know how you get on.


Hopefully I'll have some more IL-86 info i the next few days. I'll share it here if I do.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 12157 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 13):
Funnily enough, the -200 was the last one for me to get a flight on too. In order:

B744: VS/UA
B743: PK
B741SR/SUD: OX
B747SP: IR
B742M: PK

Anyway let me know how you get on.

Will do! If only Saudi had more -200s or if Iran allowed a transit time without Visa then I could probably get on one easily, come to think of it I think the latter does so long as you're through booked on IR flights.

I started at the rarer end of the spectrum; my first 747 flight being AirEvents' tour from CGN with IR's B747-100. Since then I've got on a bunch of 744s and one of RB's SPs, but still need the other two. I doubt the -300 would be too hard, but even that's getting illusive nowadays.

Good luck, hope the Il-86 information is promising!

Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12131 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 13):



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 14):

I finally found one:


U6 219 D SVX AER 1310 1425 0 01JUN09 30SEP09 ILW 6:20


So who wants to go? Big grin


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12119 times:
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Quoting EDDL (Reply 4):
What about DME-SVX on Ural Airlines?



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 5):
There are no flights showing ILW in Amadeus for this route.



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 15):
I finally found one:


U6 219 D SVX AER 1310 1425 0 01JUN09 30SEP09 ILW 6:20

I have found another!! Thanks for the in fo EDDL!!

U6 265 5 DME SVX 2200 0210+1 0 23JAN09 30JAN09 ILW 2:10

Gerard



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12117 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 16):
U6 265 5 DME SVX 2200 0210+1 0 23JAN09 30JAN09 ILW 2:10

Funny this one is only on Day 5 so I assume they use it somewhere else as well.  Smile


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12100 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 15):
I finally found one:

U6 219 D SVX AER 1310 1425 0 01JUN09 30SEP09 ILW 6:20

Amadeus isn't showing that flight. Where are you getting your info from? I have a feeling the U6 schedule in Amadeus is out of date and/or incomplete:

Now
28JAN-24FEB MTWTFSS SVX AER SOCHI.THR.RU
....5.. 0955SVX 1250AER U6 217 TU5 Y 1
1...... 1420SVX 1725AER U6 305 TU5 Y 1

Same period you showed
1JUN-28JUN MTWTFSS SVX AER SOCHI.THR.RU
....5.. 0955SVX 1250AER U6 217 TU5 Y 1
1...... 1420SVX 1725AER U6 305 TU5 Y 1

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 16):
I have found another!!

U6 265 5 DME SVX 2200 0210+1 0 23JAN09 30JAN09 ILW 2:10

Where I'm looking I get 'Equipment Varies' - not day-specific equipment info for that flight:

1234567 2200DME 0210SVX*1 U6 265 EQV Y 0

Since that flight is not a daylight flight it wouldn't be top of the list but the summer SVX-AER option looks good.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 12098 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 18):
Amadeus isn't showing that flight. Where are you getting your info from? I have a feeling the U6 schedule in Amadeus is out of date and/or incomplete:

It does ( I am using it) I used : TN1A10AUGSVXAER ( AN1A10AUGSVXAER)

It ops only from 01 Jun till 30 Sep.


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2589 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12042 times:



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 19):
It does ( I am using it) I used : TN1A10AUGSVXAER ( AN1A10AUGSVXAER)

It ops only from 01 Jun till 30 Sep.

I'm bringing up the schedules in RTB DCS - it should be linked to the latest Amadeus info but I guess it is not!

Anyway - it is great that you found the SVX-AER flights. Looks like I'll plan a trip for June. However, according to U6's website the return fare starts at EUR721!!! Surely this is not right. Anyway, I'm going to try a few backstreet travel agents here in AUH. U6 fly from DXB so there must be some agents for U6 here. I just can't find any details on the net as to who they are.

I'll probably fly EY up to DME and take a U6 Tu-154 from there. If the Interavia IL-62s are still flying it'd be great to fly one of those. I flew a Cubana one a couple of years ago and it was simply amazing so I'd like my colleague from here to experience it too. U6 are flying AN-24s too, so that may also be in order.


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12022 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
I'm bringing up the schedules in RTB DCS

I used that too but thanks I got Amadeus now.  Smile

I am thinking about taking the ILW as well but I won´t have time in June. I am looking at August for a quick AER-SVX or vice versa. Would be great if you get some information about the fares and share it.  Smile


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11611 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12005 times:



Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
If the Interavia IL-62s are still flying it'd be great to fly one of those.

Be sure to post in here if you find they still are - the Il-62 is a most glaring omission from my logbook!


Dan  Smile



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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11988 times:

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
If the Interavia IL-62s are still flying
The homepage is not existing anymore.... I believe they are not flying any more but since there is not so much to do currently I will have a search.  

EDIT:

I found one:

1 ZA 621 26 DME GDX 1850 1000+1 0 04OCT08 24MAR09 IL6 7:10

BUT it is only shown in the timetable but if you search for availability it is not there so I believe it is really gone. Sad

[Edited 2009-01-29 00:39:52]

User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11981 times:

About the IL-62, is Cubana still flying them? There are a few pics from CCS with the IL-62, but the mainstay seems to be the TU-204 (based on jp.net photos) however, I can't really find any real info.


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25 OHLHD : Yes they do, mostly to CCS. This is the weekly schedule: CU2310 6 HAV CCS I 0500 0845 0 31JAN09 31JAN09 IL6 3:15 CU1310 4 HAV CCS I 0605 0950 0 05FEB
26 JRadier : Cheers! I guess that might bring opportunities. Perhaps LGW-HAV (IL-96), HAV-CCS-HAV (twice for the IL-62) HAV-SDQ (T20) might be a nice thing for th
27 RAFVC10 : The Cubana schedules are the most exotic you can find actually as: CU 250 5 HAV 3 NAS 1310 1450 0 30JAN09 28FEB09 AN6 1:40 An Antonov AN-26 scheduled.
28 DYflyer : I did try that one in September. Checked again before i left for Russia, and it still showed a IL86. Unfortunately when it was time to fly it it turn
29 Post contains links JRadier : I just checked on Timatic (on the Continental website) and it gave me a max 18hr layover. If it was more than 6 hours I could even leave the airport.
30 Loran : I am glad I have found this thread I also have been following closely all Il-86 and Il-62 retirements, and it really hurt Somewhere I picked up rumors
31 Loran : The Ural website did only show flights one month ahead of the date I posted, and I remember seeing an ILW for one of the weekly Antalya flights, alth
32 Post contains links YVRLTN : An IL86 has found a new home in Libya with Global Aviation - source: http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/showphotos.main?from=1 Heres their website from t
33 Post contains links Severnaya : To be more specific "The basis for the formation of Rosavia will be the route network and fleet of Atlant-Soyuz Airlines (3G), Rossiya (FV), Kavminvo
34 Post contains images Loran : Thanks for the info. Sounds like a very interesting fleet   Starting up an airline unsing Il-86's and -62's might not really be competitive, unless
35 OHLHD : Because some of us ( like me) work in the aviation industry with schedules on a daily basis. Count me in! Airevents.de had a possibility to actually
36 Severnaya : They will use the modern equipment, especially FV will receive modern aircraft the next few years (A343, An148 and the usual 737s/319s). The eastern
37 Loran : Is this one still flying? Which airline is it and any retirement plans for this bird? I wish I could join the airevents Il-18 trip, but unfortunately
38 Post contains links OHLHD : http://www.daallo.biz/companyprofile.asp It must be Daallo Airlines but their profile says now that they have no more IL 18´s. They used to serve So
39 UK_Dispatcher : Daallo are still using the IL-18s. The only international (non-Somalia) routes they use them for are the weekly flights from JIB to JED and NBO. The N
40 Loran : Browsing the CH-Aviation fleet list of the Il-86, I saw all 9 Atlant-Soyuz and 3 Rossiya airframes beeing assigned to Rosavia. Can anyone provide plea
41 OHLHD : That would be great but I try not to take any chances and go early August from SVX to AER. ( plus I will try to include a Tu 154 )
42 UK_Dispatcher : I intend to do the same after late June. Have you priced any flights up? The fares I got on the Ural Airlines website seemed very high to me, for a d
43 OHLHD : Yes, it is. I got 174€ which is quite high as my intended return to MOW from AER on SU is only 71€ on the Tu-154. But I believe that it is worth i
44 Eirik : I flew on AeroCaribbean´s IL-18 from Havana to Nassau around Easter in 2007, and will go to Moldova in April to fly the type a second time. Also mana
45 Post contains links and images Loran : Good news: View Large View MediumPhoto © Sergy
46 OHLHD : Fantastic! Any idea where it is flying too?
47 UK_Dispatcher : My question exactly!!
48 Post contains links and images OHLHD : Bingo! Check the info: View Large View MediumPhoto © Max Bryansky - Russian AviaPhoto Team
49 UK_Dispatcher : So I guess this was a charter flight. Looks like the only chance of an IL-86 flight is still SVX-AER this summer with U6. If anyone finds any other op
50 OHLHD : Don´t forget the 1 x weekly MOW-SVX on U6.
51 UK_Dispatcher : Looks like the IL-86 operated SVX-AER flights have disappeared from Amadeus. It seems to be friday evening SVX-DME-SVX or nothing now.
52 OHLHD : Their homepage also shows only the A320 on the route. Then it must be the MOW-SVX route.
53 Post contains links LXM83 : Indeed that's all that's currently published on the ILW according to Galileo: 13MAR-25DEC ....5.. SVX1840 DME1855 U6 266 29DEC-30DEC .23.... SVX1840
54 Post contains links LXM83 : oh, and the online travel agency www.ticketonline.ru which is powered by Sirena (the internal Russian GDS reservation system) also indicates an ILW (
55 OHLHD : The Friday flight is the one which was there from the start. Currently there is no other flight I can find. I am sure there will be charter flights t
56 LXM83 : Me neither. But it may well be possible to see some ILW flights again during summer peaks operated for Aeroflot by Aeroflot-Don on routes such as SVO
57 UK_Dispatcher : Sure hope so. Aeroflot-Don operated some extra flights to/from DXB for Aeroflot last summer. If they do the same this summer it will be a MUST for me
58 OHLHD : If I was you I sit all day long at DXB, check the schedules and wait for it to come.
59 Severnaya : Well, please add also HRG, SSH to the list, there will for sure arrive charters there, and not only from SU.
60 Severnaya : Didn't see here mentioned yet Tatarstan Airlines (http://www.tatarstan.aero) have also 3 IL-86, and checking in the net the photo's, it appears that t
61 UK_Dispatcher : I beleive IL-86s are now banned from operating to Egypt and Montenegro. Antalya or Izmir might be the best bet, but for a non-Russian to book a chart
62 Severnaya : Montenegro i have no idea about, but Egypt wants to ban them already for years, but are always extending the term, for sure they are able to operate
63 Pe@rson : The TU5 is common, so I didn't include that. It was -62, -92, -86, T20. Can you remember the website? I have been out of the loop recently and have f
64 Post contains links Severnaya : Atlant Soyuz announced yesterday their cooperation this summer with TEZ tours for operating the charter flights to Turkey and Egypt. Interesting quote
65 UK_Dispatcher : Great news but I doubt there will be any way for anyone outside Russia to book these. I mean people who can't read Russian particularly. Unless you k
66 UN_B732 : As far as I know, the best deal to book these is to take a vacation out of Moscow including hotel. Charter alone airfares aren't a very good deal, sin
67 Post contains links and images Loran : Not sure if they will be operating next summer schedule, if operational this would have been my third option after Ural & Aeroflot-Don. View Large Vie
68 Severnaya : and i suppose nobody knows it, their website is not working, neither somewhere else i can find some schedule of them. Their routemap shows as possibl
69 Alessandro : Love those Russian classic birds, my dream would to build one Il-86 to a hostel. Only flew on the Tu-154.
70 Severnaya : On the web site of Ural Airlines, it's now possible to book the SVX-AYT flight which will be operated by the IL-86 (ILW), starting from April 25. Also
71 SIBILLE : Just a question. If I book a flight from Brussels to Domodedovo (with SN) and then a flight from Domodedovo to Antalya, staying in transit at Moscow w
72 OHLHD : Depending on your nationality. I assume Belgium so No.
73 Post contains links Severnaya : According to http://www.russianvisa.org/transitvisa.html: But please don't quote me on that, as i know myself that the visa procedures for Russia are
74 OHLHD : Just as a hint, a friend of mine traveled FRA-MOW-HAN with ZED tickets and they would only accept him when he got also a seat to HAN because they woul
75 UK_Dispatcher : The DME-AYT flights don't seem to be bookable on the U6 website, but the SVX-AYT ones are. I'm trying to put together an itinerary to incorporate SVX
76 UK_Dispatcher : Just booked my IL-86 flight I plan to travel as follows: EY007 / 05MAY AUH-FRA 1305/1750 A332 LH3204 / 05MAY FRA-SVX 1915/0355+1 A319 U63791 / 06MAY S
77 Post contains links LXM83 : Congrats, great route! I think it would be wise to apply for a Russian (transit) visa. LH probably wouldn't even let you board at FRA. Check out Visa
78 Eirik : I will consider it, sounds like fun ´was at SVO last week, at least one Aeroflot Don IL-86 parked in front of terminal 1, looked liked it was ready
79 OHLHD : Oh damn, I only got the 7th and 8th off. That would have been fun. I am planning now for the end of the month or August.
80 UK_Dispatcher : I've had to change it already due to work commitments. I'm now taking the same flight one week later on 13th May.
81 Eirik : Ok. If I go at all in May it probably will be on the friday evening scheduled SVX-DME -86 on May 29. - already have a SVO-OSL ticket on the 30.
82 OHLHD : I was thinking of the 27th SVX-AYT but I am not sure yet. It rather looks like that it will be in Aug.
83 Post contains links and images Loran : Any idea what type of service this could be? View Large View MediumPhoto © Senior I might not be able to make it until the end of the summer sche
84 Severnaya : Try to contact the photographer. He might remember when he made the photo and might give you more information on this one.
85 Brons2 : When I was in AYT in May of 2005 there were tons and tons of IL-86 operating there. Pretty fascinating to watch them at the airport. Sure don't see a
86 Post contains links Severnaya : Egypt extended the permit for IL-86 flights again. For more details: http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2009/05/21/173228.html On an interesting note, the
87 DYflyer : Seems like they have started putting the a320 on the friday evening flights between SVX and DME too now. My flight on friday has changed from IL86 to
88 UK_Dispatcher : Thats bad luck - sorry to hear that. I flew on IL-86 RA-86047 from SVX-AYT as planned on 13MAY. Great flight.
89 Eirik : Guess you have to fly home via AYT instead Maybe the IL-86 will be the next thing to fly in Iran ?
90 EDLP_TOM : just looked in our reservation system today,the ILW flights of Ural from svx to ayt are bookable till end of june on amadeus...
91 Severnaya : That by far doesn't garantuee you they will show up. They swap them quite regulary with the 320.[Edited 2009-05-28 00:11:48]
92 UK_Dispatcher : Even on this route? The IL-86 flight I took was around 85% full so they couldn't have used an A320/A321. I meant to say RA-86078.
93 Severnaya : Oh i'm very sorry, i did not read good that was written AYT. (i thought DME). My bad. But still i stand behind my point, that even on that route they
94 Loran : Congratulations! May I ask how / where you booked and what reasonable fares are? Would anyone be able to post the Amadeus U6 schedule for the period
95 OHLHD : I can check it tomorrow at work.!
96 Loran : Awesome, thanks in advance Cheers
97 UK_Dispatcher : I booked on the U6 website. The fare was quite high at over 300 euros for a one-way ticket. I found that the flights from DME were not shown in Amade
98 OHLHD : Here we go: U6 261 D DME SVX 1020 1430 0 17JUN09 24OCT09 320 2:10 U6 293 126 DME SVX 1745 2155 0 16MAY09 20OCT09 320 2:10 U6 267 3457 DME SVX 1745 21
99 Loran : Thanks to both of you, very valuable information. Bad news that no one seems to be going on a holiday in Turkey any more in September Since Amadeus o
100 EDLP_TOM : hmmm...what about routes from Pula/Croatia?? Flights to croatia are still possible with the IL86 or am i wrong? Just checked the timetable from Pula f
101 Loran : Does anyone have information how reliable these flights are operated by ILWs? I intend to book some time soon, but the booking engine on the U6 websi
102 DYflyer : Wish i had the time. Unfortunately i don't have any extra vacation-days to spare. But at least the flight was changed to a TU5 and not the A320. I gu
103 Severnaya : Only the day 5 evening flight AFAIK (the 22:00 departure from DME); almost always operated by ILW. Flying on day 6 will give you high chances with 3
104 Loran : Great Info, thanks! I am now thinking of a day 6 AYT-DME flight at the end of August. Btw, is there a sort of transit visa? I will have to change air
105 UK_Dispatcher : You will definately need a visa of some sort for this. I could not book any DME-AYT flights on the U6 website, hence why I settled for SVX-AYT. I gue
106 MEA-707 : I heared Ural Airlines announced the immediate withdrawl of the Il-86 a few days ago... A friend of a friend, maybe one of you posters, just booked AY
107 Loran : The inevitable has come. There are no more ILWs on the U6 SVX-DME schedule in August and I can not select s single ILW flight from their website. Bad
108 Post contains links Loran : http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...ks-to-retire-all-soviet-aircraft-/ Here is some more info for those who are interested....
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