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Transfer Membership From QF To BA FF Programme?  
User currently offlineVHTJE From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10205 times:
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Hello all,

My first post, so please be gentle....

I am currently a member of the QF Frequent Flyer programme. However, I moved to the United Kingdom over two years ago.

Whilst I am easily flying enough on Oneworld carriers (read: BA) to retain my membership status, I am failing one requirement of the QF Programme - that I fly 4 sectors on QF per annum.

QF have been understanding to date and allowed me to keep my status, but this will not last. I mean, in any given year, I cannot guarantee I'll return to SYD and do my 4 sectors.

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to transfer from QF's Frequent Flyer to BA's Executive Club and retain my status? It seems silly that if I join BA's Executive Club, I get dropped to the basic level and have to start all over again, after being a loyal Oneworld flyer since its inception.

The other problem is that I have amassed an amazing amount of points which I cannot readily use, e.g. for upgrades on BA. (But I am aware I can use them for flights). However I am not really fussed about those - I am not looking to transfer my points balance, only my status.

I emailed BA about this and got the most unbelievably patronising response - they gave me a pat answer on how their Executive Club works and referred me to their website.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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User currently offlineAmbanmba From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10189 times:

It's unlikely that they'll let you transfer your points, but when I moved from the U.S. to Australia I was able to get a high status on QF by showing them a copy of my UA 1K card. It's worth contacting their call center and speak to someone directly.

-ambanmba



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User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1385 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10108 times:

If you find a way, let me know, but I had the same issue and couldn't find a solution.
I was a Gold member with Qantas since 2003, but last year with my Status running out and not being able to fly 4 sectors with QF - I asked them the same question - but got no joy.
So I had to start afresh with BA as a Blue member. Luckily my period without lounge access/priority boarding etc. only last about 4 months before I moved to Silver status with BA - but it was annoying to lose a status I had maintained for 5 yrs.

I now need to take some flights and use my QF points beofre they start to fall away - maybe a nice C class trp to the US on BA...

Pilot21



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User currently offlineRsrik From India, joined Oct 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 days ago) and read 10077 times:

Hey Tim
Even if there's a way to transfer your existing points/miles to BA, I'd expect it will not apply to the elite qualification miles. It may not aid you in getting better status with BA. Ambanmba's suggestion might be your best shot at an elevated status. I know that UA has an elite matching program which will give a person one of the two lower statuses (Silver or Gold, in their case, Premier or Premier Exec). For this, one must produce their recent mileage summary on a different airline which proves the extent of their flying. Also, UA will expect them to fly something like 10K miles in 2 months or 15K in 3 months in order to retain that status.
I am DL Platinum, and fly NW to NRT. I use my DL Skymiles account, and don't get any preference for upgrades and such, but i get lounge access (when traveling economy), priority seats, and other platinum benefits that NW's worldperks members will get. I don't know whether there is a downside for you in getting FF benefits credited to your Qantas mileage number when flying BA. The one big downside seems to be that Qantas expects you to fly their airline 4 legs a year.
Sri.


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 10033 times:

Does anybody know about the other way around. We have BA Gold status, and have been trying to get it transferred to QF, since we moved to Australia. Have been trying for a while, and they've told us again and again, "we'll try". Honestly, if you try to join BA FF in Australia, they send you to QF anyway!

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineVHTJE From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months ago) and read 10015 times:
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Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 2):
If you find a way, let me know, but I had the same issue and couldn't find a solution.
I was a Gold member with Qantas since 2003, but last year with my Status running out and not being able to fly 4 sectors with QF - I asked them the same question - but got no joy.
So I had to start afresh with BA as a Blue member. Luckily my period without lounge access/priority boarding etc. only last about 4 months before I moved to Silver status with BA - but it was annoying to lose a status I had maintained for 5 yrs.

I now need to take some flights and use my QF points beofre they start to fall away - maybe a nice C class trp to the US on BA...

It must have really burnt you up to be sitting at terminal 5 at the gate for however long, not able to use the lounge because you quoted your BA Executive Club # on the booking, with the QF FF Gold Card sitting in your wallet...

I have decided I am going to deal with this by simply going to the desk at the Galleries lounge in Terminal 5 and telling them I want to transfer with status retention. Given my 2-year history with BA now, this must count for something, I hope. If nothing else, it strengthens my argument!


User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 839 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9875 times:



Quoting VHTJE (Reply 5):
I have decided I am going to deal with this by simply going to the desk at the Galleries lounge in Terminal 5 and telling them I want to transfer with status retention. Given my 2-year history with BA now, this must count for something, I hope. If nothing else, it strengthens my argument!

They will respond by giving you a handy telephone number to try, as ground staff have very little ability to do anything regarding the Exec Club



We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.
User currently offlineStargold From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9870 times:



Quoting VHTJE (Reply 5):
t must have really burnt you up to be sitting at terminal 5 at the gate for however long, not able to use the lounge because you quoted your BA Executive Club # on the booking, with the QF FF Gold Card sitting in your wallet...

I'm pretty sure he meant that his QF Gold expired, and then it took 4 months after the Gold expiry (i.e. no lounge access) for him to qualify for BA Silver.

Not a case of being denied access because you have quoted the BA membership number with a current, valid QF Gold card in the wallet. You can always gain access by showing the card itself, even if you did not quote it when checking in etc.


User currently offlineVHTJE From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9814 times:
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Quoting Stargold (Reply 7):
You can always gain access by showing the card itself, even if you did not quote it when checking in etc.

Would that work? I mean, my understanding of the QF FF Programme is that I have to quote the FF membership number on the booking in order to gain lounge access. That implies that if I have quoted another FF number (BA's) I would not be eligible for entry using the QF card. Note that I am usually asked for both my boarding pass and QF FF card when entering the lounge (when travelling Euro Traveller anyway)

Quoting APYu (Reply 6):
They will respond by giving you a handy telephone number to try, as ground staff have very little ability to do anything regarding the Exec Club

Great! Sounds like that's me, back at Square One again! But thanks for the tip.


User currently offlineStargold From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9813 times:



Quoting VHTJE (Reply 8):
Would that work? I mean, my understanding of the QF FF Programme is that I have to quote the FF membership number on the booking in order to gain lounge access. That implies that if I have quoted another FF number (BA's) I would not be eligible for entry using the QF card. Note that I am usually asked for both my boarding pass and QF FF card when entering the lounge (when travelling Euro Traveller anyway)

No. Quoting QF membership number or not, has nothing to do with lounge access. As long as your QF Gold is current and valid, you will not have any problems getting into lounges even when you've quoted BA EC number.

You said it yourself - they want to see both the card and the BP - there's a reason for that :p Lounge access is not based on what status it says on your boarding pass, you need to have the physical card with you.


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