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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4161 times:

I'm getting tired of flying N-Jets and I have yet to fly a foreign jet. What foreign carriers service two US domectic cities or a US and Canadian city.

I know PR has the LAS-YVR link, but I'm kinda looking for something on the East Coast Big grin


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User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17056 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4149 times:

QF serve JFK from LAX,you can't book though.

[Edited 2009-01-31 11:20:36]


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User currently offlinePHLstudent From United States of America, joined May 2006, 498 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Cathay Pacific flies JFK-YVR and LAN flies JFK-YYZ

User currently offlineHOONS90 From Malaysia, joined Aug 2001, 3001 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4124 times:
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For US-Canada:

LAN Airlines JFK-YYZ on a Boeing 767-300ER(bookable, flew on it myself, actually: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ms/trip_reports/read.main/136103/)

Cathay Pacific JFK-YVR on a Boeing 777-300ER (bookable)

I don't think you can book on any domestic sectors flown by non-US airlines because they don't have cabotage rights.



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User currently offlineStarAlliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4110 times:



Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 3):
LAN Airlines JFK-YYZ on a Boeing 767-300ER(bookable, flew on it myself, actually: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...103/)

Thanks! I am hoping to fly this this summer, if I can convince my dad to come with me. I have to start saving now I guess lol.

Any others out there? I'm gonna keep looking.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

I you lived in SEA or somewhere a little closer to YVR you could make a short trip north of the border and fly a JL 747-400 YVR-MEX-YVR twice a week.

As already mentioned, it's illegal for foreign carriers to carry wholly domestic passengers between points in the USA.


User currently offlineGreenair727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 4089 times:

StarAlliance38,

A foreign--in this case, non-US and non-Canadian airliner can carry pax between the US and Canada because they have 'fifth freedom' rights to do so. For a foreign carrier to operate wholly within the US are 8th and 9th freedoms, also known as 'cabotage' and is not permitted under US law. The article below explains the fifth freedom.

http://www.airlinecity.com/2007/12/10/the-fifth-freedom/

Also note, sometimes its cheaper to fly a 5th freedom carrier between two cities:

http://www.airlinecity.com/2007/12/1...freedom-cheaper-or-more-expensive/

Hope these help!

-Greenair727


User currently offlineJeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 668 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

RJ has a DTW-YUL-DTW flight.
I don't know if it is bookable though.



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User currently offlineBaexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4067 times:

I know its not the same thing however I like the way you can fly AF (CityJet) between some cities in the UK.

J


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4009 times:



Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 8):
I know its not the same thing however I like the way you can fly AF (CityJet) between some cities in the UK.

The EU Single Market is a special situation. It's basically treated as one country for aviation purposes. Any EU carrier can fly anywhere they want within the EU, including wholly domestic flights in any other country.

Australia and New Zealand have a similar single market bilateral. An Australian airline can operate wholly domestic flights in New Zealand and vice versa.


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