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AC 763 Vs 777 To Shanghai  
User currently offlineDash9 From Canada, joined Nov 2008, 212 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6939 times:

hello
I'll have a business trip to Shanghai in a few weeks but I still don't know which flight number it will be. First flight is YUL - YYZ from where I might fly on a B77L or B763 to PVG.

I know the 77L are brand new and very compfortable with PTV. What about the 763, beside behing pretty old? I heard there was a retrofit programe to modernize their cabin (new business cabin, PTV everywhere, etc.). Are all 763 modernised? If not, what are my chances of having one on YYZ - PVG?

thanks

Dash9

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User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6926 times:

If you're flying YYZ-PVG nonstop, this will be on the 777 aircraft. However, if you're flying YYZ-PVG on the direct flight via YVR it'll be on the B763 which are all refurbished with the new interiors and Executive First Suites. There are still a couple of 763's without the new interior, but these don't fly to Asia...there mainly kept in NA and to the Caribbean.

User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2230 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6824 times:



Quoting Dash9 (Thread starter):
I know the 77L are brand new and very compfortable with PTV. What about the 763, beside behing pretty old? I heard there was a retrofit programe to modernize their cabin (new business cabin, PTV everywhere, etc.). Are all 763 modernised? If not, what are my chances of having one on YYZ - PVG?

The AC 763s are incredible. I flew them on an 11hr flight YYZ-SCL, which is about the same duration as YVR-PVG (in case this is your flight). If you are in Executive Class, you will have a 1X1X1 configuration, which looks very comfortable and nice. In the Y cabin, there is a 2X3X2 configuration, which also works excellent. You should avoid the middle seats (as in any situation) but the 2 seating on either sides with the aisles and windows are awesome. You have a PTV with AVOD and XM satellite radio. The crew, cabin atmosphere, catering service, and overall quality on Air Canada has really made a strong turnaround. I was very impressed, as you will also be when you fly them. They truly are the best North American carrier.



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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5132 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6785 times:

The three B767-300s which have not been refurbished will not be redone. They are the three leased ones which were due to be retired. Instead of 2 doors and 2 over-wing exits on each side, they have 4 doors, and do not mix with the rest of the fleet.

They have been kept only as a result of the B777 delays and are due to be retired this autumn.

To pick them out, they are configured 25J / 188Y, vice 24J / 187Y of the reconfigured aircraft.

It is very unlikely you will see them on an Asian route unless there has been an equipment substitution.



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User currently offlineFlyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4999 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6627 times:

The aircrafts have the same interior in terms of product. However, if you want to space your trip by having 2 flights - instead of one super long-flight, then the choice is easy

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6627 times:



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):
The three B767-300s which have not been refurbished will not be redone. They are the three leased ones which were due to be retired. Instead of 2 doors and 2 over-wing exits on each side, they have 4 doors, and do not mix with the rest of the fleet.

They have been kept only as a result of the B777 delays and are due to be retired this autumn.

The 3 non-standard AC 763s with the extra doors:


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User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6402 times:

Does the 767 with 8 door hold less pax than the ones with 4 doors.

I'm guessing the extra doors probably take out more seating..


User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2170 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6252 times:



Quoting USAFDO (Reply 6):
Does the 767 with 8 door hold less pax than the ones with 4 doors.

As per LongHauler in reply 3:

Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):

To pick them out, they are configured 25J / 188Y, vice 24J / 187Y of the reconfigured aircraft.




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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6223 times:



Quoting Threepoint (Reply 7):
Quoting USAFDO (Reply 6):
Does the 767 with 8 door hold less pax than the ones with 4 doors.

As per LongHauler in reply 3:

Quoting LongHauler (Reply 3):

To pick them out, they are configured 25J / 188Y, vice 24J / 187Y of the reconfigured aircraft.

I think USAFDO was asking how the configurations for the 4-door and 8-door aircraft compared when they had comparable business class products with regular reclining seats. I can't remember what the 4-door 763 seating was before the XM conversion, although I think there were 2 or 3 variations due to the origins of the aircraft (AC vs Canadian aircraft etc.), and some had 25 J seats and some had 30.


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2280 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6210 times:

Can someone confirm the 763-3Y0ER left with 4 doors were the power by the hour aircraft? If so are they now straight leases or are they still only billed by airtime?

User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5132 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 6071 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
I can't remember what the 4-door 763 seating was before the XM conversion, although I think there were 2 or 3 variations due to the origins of the aircraft (AC vs Canadian aircraft etc.), and some had 25 J seats and some had 30.

The two non XM versions (exCP and exAC) were 30J/173Y and 30J/182Y for the 4 door version, vice 25J/188Y for the 8 door version. But still, this may be comparing apples to oranges, as the 8 door version retained their Kenya Airways interior layout, but with AC seats.



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