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User currently offline1821 From Greece, joined Jul 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6700 times:

Recently while i was looking into booking flights for my round the world trip ( economy obviously ) i noticed that *A had increased their fares by approx $1300 AUD. WOW that is excessive to say the least  Angry

To be entirely honest i prefer *A mainly due to their more or less direct flights at destinations wich i'd like to visit . SYD - PVG - PEK - SFO - SEA - LAX - MSY - SXM - JFK - CAI - ATH.

When i thought about it let me see what OneWorld offer. And to my amazement they were $1,500 AUD cheaper than *A !!! . For the mileage wich is approx 37,000 on both alliances One World are approx. $5,200 AUD inclusive of taxes ( not including the 10% discount they are offering - i am travelling outside the dates of the discounted fare ) , while *A is approx $5,799 NOT including taxes  Confused

Although OneWorld are cheaper they do not offer flights to were i need to go on certain days and i flew OneWorld a few years back and was not impressed !!!! .

So do i stick with OneWorld and cop it sweet ? or do i fork out the extra $1,500 AUD and fly *A? Just curious as to what evry1 thinks. Thanx in advance !!!!!


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6714 times:
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Quoting 1821 (Thread starter):
Although OneWorld are cheaper they do not offer flights to were i need to go on certain days and i flew OneWorld a few years back and was not impressed !!!! .

Which oneworld airlines are on your itinerary?


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6697 times:

Well being an OW slave myself the answer is easy  Wink ...but I sure understand if it seems OW offers limited choices for you, comparing to *A. The cool thing with OW is that you can plan and book your RTW trip online:

http://www.oneworld.com/ow/flight-info/plan-and-book-your-itinerary


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6583 times:
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Quoting Andaman (Reply 2):
but I sure understand if it seems OW offers limited choices for you, comparing to *A.

Not really, I use AA and other oneworld carriers to many destinations that the *A doesn't even operate too. At SCL it appears that the only *A carriers will soon be AC and TAM (soon to join *A). LX is leaving SCL. Also, MIA is my hub, and both AA and LAN fly to many of the same destinations, so I have a choice between the two of them. MIA also has daily flights operated by IB and BA. AA also has daily B772s service to LAX from MIA, which offers connections onwards to QF and CX flights. AA also recently upgraded MIA-MAD to a B772 and Barajas offers many connections that are not available at LHR. I could easily fly MIA-LHR-HKG-SYD-AKL-SCL-EZE-MIA all on oneworld.


User currently offline1821 From Greece, joined Jul 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6575 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 1):
Which oneworld airlines are on your itinerary?

QF , CX , JL , AA , IB , RJ , and eithet BA or QF.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6557 times:
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Quoting 1821 (Reply 4):
QF , CX , JL , AA , IB , RJ , and eithet BA or QF.

BA, CX, QF and of course LAN are among my favorite airlines in the world! Very good service in my opinion.


User currently offline1821 From Greece, joined Jul 2007, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6532 times:

I think it may be best to stick with *A . I need as many direct flights back home ( Greece ) as possible , LX , LH , MS , SQ , TG , all go direct home for me and also offer daily flights from SYD and within Europe. Mum and Dad moved back to Greece when Dad retired a few years back so i'm in Greece around 4 to 5 times a year and just find it better with the airlines that i mentioned, but on the other hand OneWorld is cheaper.


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User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2071 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6514 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 3):
Quoting Andaman (Reply 2):
but I sure understand if it seems OW offers limited choices for you, comparing to *A.

Not really

Yes really. Here's a comparison. The information is from each alliance's website:

Star..................912 cities served in 159 countries
Oneworld..........675 cities served in 130 countries

That's a BIG difference.

Here's how SkyTeam stacks up:

SkyTeam.........905 cities served in 169 countries.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6508 times:
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Quoting 1821 (Reply 6):

I would go with Oneworld then; and save the rest of your money for another trip, or even a side-trip to another destination.


User currently offlineOgre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 712 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6489 times:

I don't know... I just did a RTW trip and tried booking star alliance and I had a hard time going from Melbourne to Argentina in *A.

Next week I am flying to SFO, NYC and EZE and the *A option was about USD 4000 higher than one world... (this is in j).

So one world it is. I dislike American Airlines... but it won't kill me to fly them...



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6474 times:
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Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 7):

I fly into POS, BGI, GYE, SCL, UIO, EZE, IQQ, ANF, MVD, MAD, and LHR mostly and MIA is my base. Unfortunately, the *Alliance doesn't operate into many of these destinations at a high frequency, as compared to oneworld.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6331 times:
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Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 9):
So one world it is. I dislike American Airlines... but it won't kill me to fly them...

I have to say that AA has a great F product on the 772. The flagships suites are very comfortable and the menus have changed for the better. AA is also upgrading a sub-fleet of B752s for TATL flights. I recently flew on the prototype and did a TR. I also did a mini TR on LAN Chile.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/144051/

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/144335/

[Edited 2009-03-03 02:29:28]

User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3197 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6271 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 10):
Unfortunately, the *Alliance doesn't operate into many of these destinations at a high frequency, as compared to oneworld.

That's mostly just the latin world. And with LAN, IB and AA all strong in latin america is it any wonder, especially since you live in the North American gateway to Latin America which just happens to be onewold.

If you want to make it really interesting, lets say you need to go to places in the North of Sweden or Norway, then to a regional city in Poland, then to Frankfurt, then to Tel Aviv, then down into deep Africa, say Harare, then from there you need to go to Phuket, then to Singapore, then to Kula Lumpur, then to Japan and then to PEK before back to the USA.

Star should be able to get you most of the way non-stop or 1 short stop. Oneworld has a few holes in that network. The lack of a real hub for oneworld in the centre of europe alone is a major drawback. FRA just happens to connect everything too well for a start, both long haul and short haul.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6239 times:
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Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 12):
FRA just happens to connect everything too well for a start, both long haul and short haul.

That's true, however the flight from MIA to MAD often takes less than 7 hours, and at MAD I can connect onwards to ORY and LIN. If I need to go to FRA from MIA, I use AA to MAD and then connect onto LAN Chile's A-340 service to FRA. However, the construction at FRA makes the airport seem a bit drab. I am actually going to TXL on Thursday with AA to LHR, then connecting onwards with BA to Tegel.


User currently offlineTayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6167 times:

A really great RTW booking engine: http://www.oneworld.com/ow/flight-info/plan-and-book-your-itinerary

no need for any agents whatsoever when booking a OW RTW now!


User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1339 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6139 times:

You should also consider where to you can redeem miles in a sensible way from your place of living... That RTW trip should give you a sh*tload of frequent flyer miles on either *A or 1W.


WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3197 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6118 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13):
That's true, however the flight from MIA to MAD often takes less than 7 hours, and at MAD I can connect onwards to ORY and LIN. If I need to go to FRA from MIA, I use AA to MAD and then connect onto LAN Chile's A-340 service to FRA. However, the construction at FRA makes the airport seem a bit drab. I am actually going to TXL on Thursday with AA to LHR, then connecting onwards with BA to Tegel.

Of course its horses for courses here. If you happen to live in DFW, LHR, or even Hong Kong, Oneworld is probably going to make more sense for you most of the time regardless of cost, purely in terms of options. So i guess its really gonna depend on where you want/like/need to visit and maybe carrier preference. Anybody who likes to use, for example SIA really should stick with star.

Just as an aside, there are some bucketshops selling non star/oneworld rtw tickets that allow the use of a collection of airlines across alliances... some strange ones that let you use a group of airlines, like Emirates, KLM, Aerolinneas and then SAA or Air New Zealand. They may well be worth a look.


User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3197 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6105 times:

here is an example of one i found.

the following carrriers can be used:

Malaysia Airlines - Kenya Airways - KLM Royal Dutch Airlines - Northwest Airlines - South African Airways - Jet Airways (India) - Alaska Airlines - Copa Airlines - Continental Airlines - Air Pacific - Malev Hungarian - Air Vanuatu - Polynesia Airlines - Air Caladonie - Air Tahiti Nui - Sri Lankan Airlines - Air Europa.


Completely wacky I know, but depending on where you want to go it may help.


User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6022 times:



Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 9):
I don't know... I just did a RTW trip and tried booking star alliance and I had a hard time going from Melbourne to Argentina in *A.

Shouldn't be a problem. NZ MEL-AKL then I'm fairly certain NZ codeshare with AR AKL-EZE.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8604 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5972 times:
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Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 16):
f you happen to live in DFW, LHR, or even Hong Kong, Oneworld is probably going to make more sense for you most of the time regardless of cost, purely in terms of options.

Exactly, if I lived in Atlanta, I would probably be a Delta FF. However, AA is the only carrier to serve Latin America and the Caribbean with multiple daily Non-stop flights. And they have a pretty good domestic network as well. As for the *A here in MIA, it's very weak. UA pulled out of FLL, and will operate a skeleton schedule at MIA this summer. US Airways flies to their respective hubs only. The *A has a very weak international presence here as well; except for AC, LH, and LX.

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 17):
Shouldn't be a problem. NZ MEL-AKL then I'm fairly certain NZ codeshare with AR AKL-EZE.

LAN Argentina also code-shares with QANTAS on the thrice weekly SYD-EZE Non-stop service.


User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1626 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5844 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 10):

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 7):

I fly into POS, BGI, GYE, SCL, UIO, EZE, IQQ, ANF, MVD, MAD, and LHR mostly and MIA is my base. Unfortunately, the *Alliance doesn't operate into many of these destinations at a high frequency, as compared to oneworld.

I believe it works both ways - Star has a weakness in Latin and South America that AA and LA cover well and UA doesn't, though that soon will change a bit with JJ joining soon. Oneworld has a weakness in Africa with no home carrier for the continent at the moment, while Star has SAA and Egyptair (though they are at either extremes of the continent - ET is however looking to join Star).

Jist of what I'm saying - certain regions are covered better by Star, others by Oneworld. You'll always find counter examples for I could do this itinerary easier with this alliance versus that itinerary with that alliance.

It is really interesting what amongst the three major alliances, Skyteam has the most net countries served, though Star has net cities but not be very much!



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