Holte From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 28 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3524 times:
I am planning to take the family to the US in the summer. the idea is to fly into Phoenix , spend a few days chilling out and then hiring an RV, driving to LA and flying back to Manchester.
The flight options are US Airlines, Delta or Continental and I have flown with them all in the past, My concern is over the IFE. with 2 kids age 13 and 9 this is the biggestconcern. Do US still have PTV's or have they removed them to save cash and do Delta have them on the 767's which are used on this route. Do Continental still use 757's as I am not too keen on narrow bodies across the pond. what is the IFE situation on the transcontinentals out of PHL, ATL and EWR respectively?
Any advice appreciated. There is little difference in cost so that is not a factor
EI switched to SFO...and the aircraft is 'usually' PTV equipped for the long trip from DUB
If you fly with a US carrier you'll have to make a connection with immigration and baggage reclaiming and customs formalities - this can be dicey in the US and depending on the day and the airport involved can be 40 minutes or can be 2.5 hours!
why not take BA ex-LHR to PHX(I know that's heresy to a Mancunian, but just consider it!) and then back from LAX - or VS out to LAS from MAN and then back from LAX to LHR, connecting on BD to MAN and US from LAS-PHX, for instance.
The problem with connecting on the East coast is that you will then have a 4.5-5.5 hour flight on a domestic US carrier and there'll be no meal and no free alcohol and IFE will be on the main screens and can be a movie or short-subject programming (no choice) and bring your own headphones, or they will charge you $2 each to buy headphones - so your kids will be bored senseless if the movie happens to be something boring ('Nights in Rodanthe', yawwwn)
DL transatlantic only has PTVs on the 767-400 (no longer serving MAN, IIRC) not the 767-300.
US do have PTVs on the A330s - but don't know about the 767 or 757
Seatguru.com has a description of the IFE installed on each type of a/c by airline.
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B747forever From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3427 times:
Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 3): The problem with connecting on the East coast is that you will then have a 4.5-5.5 hour flight on a domestic US carrier and there'll be no meal and no free alcohol and IFE will be on the main screens
That is actually not true for every American carrier. For instance CO offer some kind of meal and every seat has a PTV (On all of their 752s at least which flies from West Coast to East Coast)
With fellow A.netters recommending VS to LAS, have you though to pickup your RV in LAS instead ? At least for normal cars, most car rental agencies do not charge oneway-fee between NV and CA, but I am not aware of the situation for RVs.
The drive from Las Vegas to Phoenix can be done within one day - or with some sightseeing involved, you can make a stopover at Kingman, AZ. However, in case you intend to drive from Phoenix to Grand Canyon anyhow, there are more options to chosse from where to *chill out* before setting out for the drive.
Furthermore, if PHX is fixed for chilling out (you hardly will need a RV for that, a car should do the job), you could rent a CAR from LAS to PHX - or fly from LAS to PHX after having arrived on VS (allow minimum 3 hours to make the connection, as a change or Terminal is involved at LAS). US and WN are the natural options between LAS and PHX, with WN not charging for checked luggage ...
Same options from LAX.
- You either can fly out of LAX back home
- take a car to LAS and fly VS from there or
- fly from LAX (or surrounding, less congested,easier to navigate airports around) to LAS.
However, with 4 pax travelling, additional domestic flights in the U.S. quickly will add up some $$$, whereas renting a car LAX-to-LAS or LAS-to-PHX will be the slower, but cheaper (and more scenic) option.
Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2880 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3277 times:
Problem you will have is, all the airlines flying to the US from Manchester only fly to the east coast and you will have a 3-4hr flights from these hubs on to Phoenix, and themajority of these carriers domestic flights are quite basic...
For example. US Airways probably have the best IFE system* of any of the carriers flying from Manchester to the USA, but once you get to Philadelphia and on to your connecting flight, US Airways have stripped all IFE out of their aircraft.
HOWEVER - Several carriers have done a "turnaround" and are very very slowly introducing PTV's on to domestic fleets, but I think the PTV's will be "Pay Per View". I think actually US Airways are kitting out 1 or 2 of their A320's with this service as a trial.
Manchester flights do usually seem to be slightly more expensive than London flights, so you maybe best to drive down to London and get ona direct flight to PHX, with BA. Or alternatively fly from MAN and connect at LHR... But travelling with children, getting a connecting flight could be a bit if chore and a nightmare so a single flight could well be the way to go.
Seemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 955 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3219 times:
Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 9): For example. US Airways probably have the best IFE system* of any of the carriers flying from Manchester to the USA, but once you get to Philadelphia and on to your connecting flight, US Airways have stripped all IFE out of their aircraft.
I thought the product was a 'bit behind the times', what do the A330 cabins look like?
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2880 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3218 times:
Quoting Seemyseems (Reply 10): I thought the product was a 'bit behind the times', what do the A330 cabins look like?
US Airways A330's, AVOD system is one of the earlier systems but from what I thought they were one of the only airlines flying out of Manchester to the USA offer PTV's... They still have over ten films on the system (which I don't think is bad), and a number of other short programs, cartoons and documentories.
The rest of US Airways product is pretty standard - mean and a snack, free soft drinks, leather seats with about 31-32 inch seat pitch. Further details on the below link:
Pictures of the refurbished A330 cabns are scare...
But since writing the above post, I understand Continental's 757's also have AVOD or are currently being installed to the fleet. All depends on your own personal views about flying a narrow body accross the Atlantic...
Seemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 955 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3203 times:
I saw a picture on JP, and the seats looked a bit dated. I also saw a video on YouTube, and there was a flight attendant filming the newly refurbished cabin, the seats looks pretty good, and the Envoy class looks nice too!
My sister recently flew on a CO 757, she said that the IFE wasn't that good, and there wasn't as much choice compared to the 767/777.