LatinTraveller From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 84 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6357 times:
Hello there buddy...
Well, I am currently putting the finishing touches on a two-week, WELL DESERVED vacation to Thailand. Obviously, I have come here for advice on the flights....
I'll be doing LAX-BKK-LAX. The plan is to book flights to and from BKK to HKT with a LCC ( Air Asia?) for some fun in the sun
So far these are my options:
Positives: Price (obviously) for CI 5 (Dep: 3.15p Arr: 8.20p) connecting onto CI 65 (Dep 10.30p Arr: 1.05a), Short layover in TPE
Concerns: No IFE on 747, Arrives into BKK at 1.05a...foreign country and its late...dunno bout that...
(Note: To try and jump on CI7 (Dep: 1.15a Arr: 6.10a) to connect to CI 833 (Dep: 9.40a Arr: 12.20p), the price jumps up to $813. Worth it?
Positives: Ride on a A330 (AVOD), connecting thru NRT, Short layover in NRT
Concerns: The NRT-BKK leg is on a 757 (flight time 7h 25m), arriving in BKK at 12.35a, Coming back it's on a 747 (odd)
Concerns: 14 hour layover in PEK, IFE on 747 (if any?), how bareable is a 5hr flight on a 738?
Positives: New airline, IFE on their 747, known for their service, layover in NRT
Concerns : 17hr layover in NRT (there HAS to be something to do in Tokyo no?)
Positives: Its SQ ! Layover in SIN after a stop in NRT
Concerns : Do their 747s have the old Krisworld? Also, I arrive into SIN at 1.15a and depart at 8.45. Is there anything to do in SIN at that time?
Positives: 773 service, nice interiors
Concerns: What makes it so worth it?
Positives: 773 service, nice interiors, good schedules
Concerns: is the price worth it?
Keep in mind I am here for guidance, so guide me away!!
PR was listed as $1014...Sounds exotic but I am mostly concerned about the comfort. It's the Pacific we are talking about here...it looks small on a map but once you start crossing it, there is no turning back!
For the itineraries that have a long layover (such as the one proposed by SQ and Air China) what, if anything, is there to do for that period of time, it be at the airport or in the city? Me and my friend dont mind leaving the airport for a day to explore a city for a bit and come back to fly out to BKK.
LDIkaros From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 177 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6334 times:
I have the same problems when flying SFO-BKK. Tons of choices, all with their advantages and disadvantages.
First, I would avoid China Airlines (safety record, lack of IFE) and DL/NW (service). I would also avoid long layovers such as the ones with JAL and Air China. If you spend less than a few days at a destination such as Beijing or Tokyo you spend money on accomodations but you won't see much (and keep in mind that Tokyo can be extremely expensive!).
I always wanted to fly SQ trans-pac but the fact that I would have to fly via SIN always prevented me from choosing them for my SFO-BKK trips. Trust me, when you fly in economy across the Pacific you don't want to spend an extra couple of hours in an airport on yet another stop. The thought of having to spend the better part of a night at SIN after crossing the Pacific is too much to bear, at least for me.
That leaves EVA Air (BR) and Cathay Pacific (CX).
I took BR a few times in their Economy Deluxe cabin and loved it. I don't know about the connection from LAX but from SFO it's only about 1 hour transit in TPE. And don't worry about arriving too late in Bangkok. It is not a problem. Just pass the taxi touts and find the public taxis. Or prearrange your transport to your hotel via the internet. It's pretty easy. And Bangkok is a very safe city, so don't worry about personal safety (just use common sense and watch out for pick pockets in tourist places).
Did you check out CX? They have usually pretty good prices on their web site and they also allow free stopovers in HKG. CX is now my preferred airline and I usually have a 2-3 day stopover on Lantau Island, Hong Kong, when flying them SFO-HKG-BKK. They have night departures from LAX and you would arrive in HKG in the morning. You could then directly continue to BKK or have a quick stopover in HKG and either fly to BKK in the evening or on the next day(s).
Their price is around $981 for your flight dates (May 19- June 3).
Let us know what airline you fly. And have a great time in BKK. I am currently there and enjoy every minute of it
LatinTraveller From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 84 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6317 times:
Thanks for the advice..
SQ operates the 747 LAX-SIN meaning that it is more than likely going to be the older IFE, not the recent Krisworld like the 773 has.
BR does look tempting but right now it stands in the 1000s field...
CX was also giving me a quote at about the same ballpark...
NH is looking like a winner...the only concern is coming back.
The flight leaves at 8 in the morning. I'm trying to find early flights that would get me into BKK early but to no avail. Would it be worth it to leave HKT late at night and just spend a couple of hours in BKK. Then come back to check in for our flight?
LDIkaros From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 177 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6293 times:
BKK-HKT r/t for $51 on Air Asia is pretty cheap. Just keep in mind that Air Asia has a rather meager baggage allowance (15 kg) and their flights may be delayed, in particular in the evening (just happened to me a week ago).
As for ANA, I flew them a few times into BKK and I would also recommend them. Their only drawback is the rather tight seating in economy. Otherwise, IFE and F/A service are top notch.
I always took ANA's night flight out of BKK which gets you into NRT early in the morning. You could then head into NRT for a few hours (which, however, could get very expensive) or simply spend the time in one of the day rooms at NRT airport (they go for about 500Yen or so per hour). Another option is to check out Narita village near the airport.
According to ANA's web site they offer a BKK-NRT flight at 11:55pm, arriving into NRT at 8:10am. For your flight dates (May 19 and leaving BKK either June 2 or June 3) the price on ANA's web site is $867.20.
If you left in the evening you could take an Air Asia flight from HKT in late afternoon. Again, I would strongly recommend to schedule your Air Asia flight such that you have few hours transit in BKK in case your HKT-BKK flight gets delayed. Also keep in mind that Air Asia flies strictly point-to-point so you will have to wait for your bags in BKK and recheck them with your connecting carrier.
Of course you could always fly o/w BKK-HKT on FD and then HKT-BKK on TG.
One more advice: if you book your flights with TG at one of their ticket counters in Thailand you will likely get a better price than via the internet. Last year I booked a last minute flight BKK-CNX at one of their BKK offices and got the lowest fare class plus a discount to the internet fare (o/w fare was something like $60). The lowest fare class was no longer available on the internet at that time.
VTBDflyer From Thailand, joined Aug 2006, 370 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 6233 times:
The best flight I've used to get to BKK from MKE was to route through LAX on TG. The TG direct flight from LAX was great. No jetlag at all, arrive right at the beginning of the day and your ready to start the day. Its a quite pricy, but the direct flight is worth it. I just flew NW MKE-MSP-NRT-BKK, it was one of the worst flights I've taken to BKK. Flying NRT-BKK on the 757-200 is pretty bad. Not much room.