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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6234 posts, RR: 11
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9170 times:

Good Morning All,

As the title states, I ma planning on travel on a zed fare between DFW and EZE on 05/12/2009, returining on 05/16/2009 thorugh MIA. I am also looking at CO from IAH to EZE on
05/12/2009.
On AA and CO if Y fills up do they move OAL staff up to C or F or do they leave you behind.
Thank you for any input any of you can provide.

Regards,

Chepos


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User currently offlineQQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9071 times:

Sadly, AA will leave you behind.

For now, the loads look good for the dates/cities you posted. However, I'd take the 20:25 departure (flight 900) to MIA on the return. The later one is filling up.



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User currently offlineRIPCORDD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1195 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9035 times:

AA wont leave you behind and they will leave you behind it really depends on the gate agent I have seen OAL in J cause coach was full and just because they were being nice when coach was not full. I don't know the policy but it happens. I know Delta by far is one of the best for OAL

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8948 times:
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CO will not leave you behind. both coach and first are wide open, so there wont be any problems.


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User currently offlineCO58 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8900 times:

CO won't put you in BusinessFirst generally if you are not listed for it in the first place. However it really depends on the gate agent, and we have some really nice ones, they may put you up front if there are no seats left in Y.

As CALMSP said above, the load looks open so don't worry too much if you end up flying CO.


User currently offlineT5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 584 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 8879 times:

CALMSP is right. 51 & 52 is still open on the dates you asked about.
You may have a chance of being upgraded. Depends on the gate agent and how many seats left.

Have a good flight Chepos!



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6234 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8491 times:

Thanks all for the comments and suggestions.
What is the dress code for non-reving on both AA and CO?
Right now I think I am leaniing towards going and coming on CO.



Regards

Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineAAAL From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8434 times:

Like most have said it depends on the Agents. When I worked the gates with AA I have put some ZED TKT in first. They press harder on the dress code. For AA its simple NO jeans and NO sneakers and trust me they enforce it big time.

User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2818 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8423 times:

Unfortunately, CO does not upgrade other airline non-revenue customers - unless you encounter an exceptionally nice gate agent. CO dress code is business casual. Have a nice trip!

User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 735 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8235 times:



Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 1):
Sadly, AA will leave you behind.

For now, the loads look good for the dates/cities you posted. However, I'd take the 20:25 departure (flight 900) to MIA on the return. The later one is filling up.

AA will usually not leave you behind if coach is full. If you are dressed for it they will upgrade a ZED to J/F class. Unless the gate agent is a real sadist. I have several friends who fly ZED on AA out of MIA and they have never been left behind (if they were dressed for J/F) if there was space up front.

Quoting AAAL (Reply 7):
Like most have said it depends on the Agents. When I worked the gates with AA I have put some ZED TKT in first. They press harder on the dress code. For AA its simple NO jeans and NO sneakers and trust me they enforce it big time.

The dress code is stupid. That is one thing I wish AA would get rid of and it would not cost them a dime. As an airport agent I do not enjoy being the fashion police (although some people seem to thrive on this duty). This is not the good old days when people dressed to fly. Lets just let people be comfortable. I want to wear shorts when I fly to Orlando for the day.

AJMIA



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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 8225 times:
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you can wear jeans and shorts now on CO!! A little more comfortable for a 10 hour flihgt!!


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User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 792 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 8188 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 10):
you can wear jeans and shorts now on CO!! A little more comfortable for a 10 hour flihgt!!

While that is true for an OAL I might recommend business casual (kahkis and a polo). That may be enough to help get an upgrade. I would assume that if you are in jeans/shorts you'd stand no chance of an upgrade.


User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8138 times:

Leaving someone behind when there is an empty seat anywhere on the aircraft is something that is ridiculous to me.

When I would work the gates, you either move up a revenue passenger from coach to make room, or you upgrade the employee.


User currently offlineDutchflyboi From Netherlands, joined Apr 2008, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8136 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 10):
shorts now on CO!!

no shorts on CO ever. Please read our dresscode... jeans and sneakers fine, a polo shirt is ok, no t-shirts


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8132 times:
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please re-read the dress code...............shorts are okay. T-shirts are ok.


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User currently offlineAAAL From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8110 times:



Quote:
AJMIA
The dress code is stupid. That is one thing I wish AA would get rid of and it would not cost them a dime. As an airport agent I do not enjoy being the fashion police (although some people seem to thrive on this duty). This is not the good old days when people dressed to fly. Lets just let people be comfortable. I want to wear shorts when I fly to Orlando for the day.

Agreed but you know if you let them slip the FA will complain or in fact someone is bound to find out and then you are written up for it. SO your pratically forced.


User currently offlineDutchflyboi From Netherlands, joined Apr 2008, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8104 times:



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 14):
please re-read the dress code...............shorts are okay. T-shirts are ok.

I guess we both need to re-read the dress code, I was wrong, you were partly correct. Here is the text from employee res:
All employees, retirees and early outs are responsible to ensure their pass riders, including
buddies, are dressed appropriately. A pass rider’s overall appearance should be well-groomed,
neat, clean and in good taste. Attire should be respectful of fellow revenue passengers,
employees and pass riders.

The following attire is still unacceptable in any cabin:

• Any attire that reveals a midriff.
• Attire that reveals any type of undergarments.
• Attire that is designated as sleepwear, underwear, or swim attire.
• Mini Skirts
• Shorts that do not meet 3 inches above the knee when in a standing position.
• Form-fitting lycra/spandex tops, pants and dresses.
• Attire that has offensive and/or derogatory terminology or graphics.
• Attire that is excessively dirty or has holes/tears.
• Any attire that is provocative, inappropriately revealing, or see-through clothing.
• Bare feet
• Beach-type, rubber flip-flops


User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8099 times:

AA's official policy is no OAL employees in any cabin but Y. Whether some stations are lax about it I'm not sure. It's a sad policy but probably stems from the fact employees have to pay to sit there, whereas main cabin is free. AA's dress code is business casual.


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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8097 times:



Quoting Dutchflyboi (Reply 13):
no shorts on CO ever

CALMSP is right, shorts are now allowed.

Quoting Dutchflyboi (Reply 13):
jeans and sneakers fine, a polo shirt is ok, no t-shirts

T-shirts are fine as well, though it really does depend on the gate agent here. The rules state that t-shirts and shorts are fine for economy and domestic F. I would never try to wear them for International J though.

Quoting Chepos (Reply 6):
What is the dress code for non-reving on both AA and CO?

As stated above by most, the dress code is very lax at CO. In case you end up needing to fly in J, some khakis and a polo would not be a bad idea if you get an old school gate agent. Trust me, they still exist in Houston.

SR 103


User currently offlineDutchflyboi From Netherlands, joined Apr 2008, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 8093 times:



Quoting SR 103 (Reply 18):
CALMSP is right, shorts are now allowed.

they are not always allowed, Please re-read post 16, it comes directly from employee res.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8057 times:
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where are you stating we cannot where shorts??

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 18):
As stated above by most, the dress code is very lax at CO. In case you end up needing to fly in J, some khakis and a polo would not be a bad idea if you get an old school gate agent. Trust me, they still exist in Houston.

You should have no worries wearing jeans in first. I've been doing it since the day we announced the change, flying b/t LHR/CDG/NRT/HKG.



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User currently offlineCO58 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8037 times:



Quoting Dutchflyboi (Reply 19):
they are not always allowed, Please re-read post 16, it comes directly from employee res.

SR 103 is right. This is straight from employee res.

The following attire is still unacceptable in any cabin:

• Shorts that do not meet 3 inches above the knee when in a standing position.


Now why would that rule be written if you could not wear shorts in the first place?


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8029 times:
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they are allowed provided that you are not wearing your hot shorts from the discoteca!!!


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User currently offlineDutchflyboi From Netherlands, joined Apr 2008, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8025 times:



Quoting CO58 (Reply 21):
Now why would that rule be written if you could not wear shorts in the first place?

 Smile I guess you did not bother to read all the reply's. As I stated in reply 16, I was wrong and quoted the whole text myself, to avoid confusion.


User currently offlineCO58 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 51 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8021 times:



Quoting Dutchflyboi (Reply 23):
I guess you did not bother to read all the reply's. As I stated in reply 16, I was wrong and quoted the whole text myself, to avoid confusion.

Sorry, I missed that. Guess I skimmed through them and missed your reply, sorry again.


25 T5towbar : I'm glad the dress code has been changed. On CO, I personally wear business causal if I wanted to get upgraded. Plus I'm always nice and pleasant to t
26 T5towbar : It's funny........ The female flight attendants used to wear "Hot Pants" back in the day! LOL!!!!
27 N737AA : I have not seen any ZED (OAL) given anything but coach (on AA), simply because the fare structure is set up for coach and even if an agent did give a
28 CALMSP : the FA's dont know the type of fare you paid for a ticket. And its not up to the FA to determine whether or not they can sit there.
29 Chepos : Thank you all once agaiin for the comments. I think I have decided on AA from DFW to EZE on 05/12/2009 coming back on CO EZE to IAH on 05/16/2009. As
30 AJMIA : I have never heard of anyone being written up at for letting someone on out of dress code. If I was written up for such a thing I would probably laug
31 AAAL : I seen a lot of co-workers written up. One time traveling DFW-SDF and traveling positive space, THE agent refused to upgrade my GF cause she had her
32 CALMSP : good to know they are more concerned w/ non-revs than revenue!!
33 AJMIA : Well like I said I have never seen anyone written up for that. I talked with a friend from SFO tonight and she has never seen anyone written up for t
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