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Why Can You Not Earn BA Miles On AA International?  
User currently offline8herveg From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1127 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8269 times:

Why can you not earn BA Miles on American Airlines' International flights?

I am wanting to book a flight from LHR to ORD on American Airlines (as it is much cheaper than BA!), but cannot earn any BA Miles. Apparently you can on the AA domestic flights though.

Any reason for this?

Is it ever going to change?

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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8254 times:

That's exactly what AA and BA are trying to get antitrust immunity for.

Currently, the oneworld alliance does not have antitrust immunity for code-sharing, mile accrual and mile redemption on trans-atlantic flights to and from London (although I think it is possible for transatlantc flights to other UK destinations like MAN, GLA, etc. -- someone will have to confirm). In other words, the EU and US governments will not allow them to coordinate their flight schedules and mileage programs on these flights. You can, however, earn miles on subsequent legs of these journeys, like in your case. The same would be true if you were flying, say, DFW-LHR-DXB on BA. You could not earn AAdvantage miles on the DFW-LHR leg, but could on the LHR-DXB leg.

This is not true with SkyTeam and Star Alliance, which is one of the main reasons AA and BA are pushing for antitrust immunity. The governments previously did not grant this immunity because they viewed AA and BA as having a stranglehold on LHR slots. Now that these have been loosened, most observers expect immunity to be granted.

My guess is that you'll be able to earn and use both AA and BA miles on transatlantic flights by next year.



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 8254 times:



Quoting 8herveg (Thread starter):
Why can you not earn BA Miles on American Airlines' International flights?

You can not earn miles on flights between the USA and London on routes both airlines fly. This is due to an anti-trust agreement.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3197 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8211 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
You can not earn miles on flights between the USA and London on routes both airlines fly. This is due to an anti-trust agreement.

Which is extreme hypocrasy consdering Air Canada, SAS, Lufthansa, United and soon to be Continental can all do the same thing from the likes of FRA, ARN CPH, IAD, ORD and EWR etc but they're not the almightly LHR so they dont count....go figure.

that will have to change. any consolidation with BMI and LH/virgin should also weaken the argument that they control too much of LHR. as would another runway.

anway main point is this is a hangover from past regulation.... and it will change


User currently offlineEmbajador3 From Spain, joined Aug 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8161 times:

I'd flown many times LHR-JFK on AA and still earned IB miles...


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8105 times:



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 3):
Which is extreme hypocrasy consdering Air Canada, SAS, Lufthansa, United and soon to be Continental can all do the same thing from the likes of FRA, ARN CPH, IAD, ORD and EWR etc but they're not the almightly LHR so they dont count....go figure.

Absolutely. Look at some of the CDG routes to the USA. 100% Skyteam. Wasn't an issue. Same for some of the AMS routes, some of the FRA routes (Star).



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineWarren84 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8006 times:



Quoting Embajador3 (Reply 4):
I'd flown many times LHR-JFK on AA and still earned IB miles...

Because IB don't operate LHR-JFK



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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4254 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7977 times:

BUT.... You could join the AA program and earn AA miles. Allegedly, you can combine AA and BA miles when you want to book an award ticket on any OneWorld carrier.

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