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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 21055 times:

I saw this ad on Facebook just now.... Seems to be real weird to me, but has anyone used this or know anything about this? Seems flimsy to me. They claim that you can still get a seat and not be bumped ever, including having a whole row to yourself!!

Link below....

http://www.nonrevcheckin.com/

Is this a scam??

Thoughts?


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 21088 times:

If it is too good to be true.....

Non-revs are always bottom of the totem pole. Sounds like a crock of you-know-what.

Whole row....I had to laugh.  rotfl 



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User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2347 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 21058 times:
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Well, it seems to show you the Amadeus booking numbers and seat counts .... a total BS and no help at all as the Airlines own forecasts are far more accurate .. however these details are never passed out to thrid parties .... also your standby status is mostly always based on seniority ... I wonder how a simple ugly website will be able to change things when I'm waiting at the gate for a possible free seat.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 21058 times:

Seems like this is mostly for the US employees than anyone else.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Non-revs are always bottom of the totem pole.

On the golden rules part of their website, they detail about 'How to get a higher on the stand-by list." I thought this was all due to seniority on your own airline, etc etc....



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User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 21058 times:

Never heard of it nor something I would give my credit card # too. It all seems like things that you can do on your own. Kinda like these BS companies that tell you they can lower your credit card debt because they'll talk to the credit card company for you. You can do it yourself, same thing seems to imply on this nonrev website. Something seems fishy. Just my opinion of course.


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 21012 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 4):
You can do it yourself, same thing seems to imply on this nonrev website.

The airline I work for uses ID90.com for non-rev listings. And the best part is that it is free to use!

Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 4):
...nor something I would give my credit card # too.

I was thinking the same. Seems to be too fishy to me.



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User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 20980 times:

ID90.com i'm familar with and know people that use it at my job.


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 20967 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
The airline I work for uses ID90.com for non-rev listings.

Also www.flyzed.com



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 20945 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 7):
www.flyzed.com

Is that for CO employees only?



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 20912 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 8):
Is that for CO employees only?

No, not at all. The userID is the three letter code for your airline (CO=COA, AA=AAL, UA=UAL, etc.) and the password is the three digit IATA code for your airline (CO=005, AA=001, DL=006, etc.).

You can use any airlines codes to get into the site. Try it with AA's (AAL and 001).



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User currently offlineB6MoneyGuyJFK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20848 times:

I use ID90.com for the hotel deals. I happily pay the annual fee, because after one trip, its paid for itself. Its not as great as it used to be, because they no longer list the Accor properties. Still, I've found a number of bargains

I check international bookings with Flyzed.com. Its free, and I've not had a problem if I see "a green smiley face" And of course an occaisonal shout out for info here usually gets a few replys. (Which are always appreciated.)


I only glanced at this nonrevcheckin site, but I don't see what they really give for the +/- $30.00.
No other airline will change my boarding priority to anything other than an OAL, just as when other airline staff trys to non-rev on us, they NEVER get boarded before our own.

Am I missing something that would make this worth it??



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20837 times:



Quoting B6MoneyGuyJFK (Reply 10):
Am I missing something that would make this worth it??

That is what I'm trying to figure out, too. Seems like this website I found 'claims' to be able to ensure that you will get on and get your boarding priority higher and ignoring the interline agreements.... But then again, that is just my guess.



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User currently offlineRB211 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 632 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 20831 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 7):
Also www.flyzed.com

That and GoZed. I use them alot. However, whether I use a D1 or D2 my seniority dictates where I sit on company ac. For instance DFW to LAX or ORD... forget first class.



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2577 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 20663 times:



Quoting B6MoneyGuyJFK (Reply 10):
I only glanced at this nonrevcheckin site, but I don't see what they really give for the +/- $30.00.
No other airline will change my boarding priority to anything other than an OAL, just as when other airline staff trys to non-rev on us, they NEVER get boarded before our own.

Am I missing something that would make this worth it??

It looks like its geared to US. Does US have a deal where your check-in time gets you to the top of the list if you're the first to list? If US doesn't prioritize by seniority, then it would help to be listed first to get to the top of the list.
We travel on CO and its based on pass class and year of hire. So, you'd be ahead of someone with the same class and year of hire, which may not happen to often.


User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 950 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 20643 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
On the golden rules part of their website, they detail about 'How to get a higher on the stand-by list." I thought this was all due to seniority on your own airline, etc etc....

With some airline policies, the time you check in determines in part where you fall on this list

Here at NonRevCheckin.com, we can check you in on United States domestic flights on US Airways® and US Airways Express®. We check you in at the earliest time possible giving you the highest priority possible.

They don't give you a higher boarding catagory just higher in that category by checking you in at 23h59min.

You have to read it carefully!


I wouldn't pay for this. You can get all the info for free like mentioned previously.


User currently offlineCOFanNYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20626 times:



Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
Does US have a deal where your check-in time gets you to the top of the list if you're the first to list? If US doesn't prioritize by seniority, then it would help to be listed first to get to the top of the list.



Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 14):
Here at NonRevCheckin.com, we can check you in on United States domestic flights on US Airways® and US Airways Express®. We check you in at the earliest time possible giving you the highest priority possible.

They don't give you a higher boarding catagory just higher in that category by checking you in at 23h59min.

Well that doesn't make any sense. Since US prioritizes by seniority for its own employees (and their families, guests, etc) and then OAL employees are towards the bottom of the pack. For any employee or people on their travel benefits the only time that check-in time matters is if you happen to have the same exact hire date as someone else traveling on your flight.

Also, non-rev check-in on US (at least if done on-line) is only within 12 hours of the flight.


User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8967 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 20620 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Thread starter):
They claim that you can still get a seat and not be bumped ever, including having a whole row to yourself!!

 rotfl  good one... How would they do that!? No airline will take a non- rev prior a paying full fare costumer... Which is perfectly fine. Those guys pay for the ticket and have the right to be on that flight. Ok, I pay as well when non- reving, but a lot less and it is a standby ticket, so I am aware that I can be removed from the airplane in order to give my seat to some full fare passenger...

wilco737



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 20616 times:



Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 14):
With some airline policies, the time you check in determines in part where you fall on this list

HP was one great example of doing that when I was working for them. Seniority wasn't an issue. Seniority was only used for bidding shifts and vacation selections.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 16):
How would they do that!?

Still trying to figure that one out.... But I totally agree with what you said.

Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 14):
You have to read it carefully!

I did, as a matter of fact. Seems like it is geared more towards US than any other airline, even though AS, CO, DL, UA to name a few....are on it as well!



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User currently offlineNonRevCheckin From United States of America, joined May 2009, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 20565 times:

Hello all. My name is Brad Deines and I am with NonRevCheckin.com. I was informed of this post and wanted to answer any and all questions about our web site. I will try to answer all questions in this post, however, if you any more questions, please feel free to email me as I don't monitor these posts regularly.
NonRevCheckin.com was started over 2 years ago primarily for checkin services on America West and US Airways. Back then, boarding priority was based solely on time of checkin (HP flights). Since checkin was only allowed via the web at the maximum of 12 hours prior to departure, instead of having to wake up at 3am and check yourself in, we did it for you. US Airways has since changed its boarding priority to date of hire, thus making the checkin services of our web site not as high of a priority anymore. However, our checkin services are still valuable for the following reasons -
1. In case of tie in seniority, then your priority is based on time of checkin.
2. If you are traveling on a buddy pass, then your priority is based solely on time of checkin.
3. As the airlines continue to streamline the non rev book system, other airline travelers will eventually be e-ticketed and thus be able to do web checkin. Time of checkin for these travelers will determine their boarding priority. We are prepared to do this feature as soon as the airline launches this.
We have many US Airways commuters and buddy pass travelers who still use this feature of our web site daily.

About a year ago we made some major improvements to our web site to include what we call Passenger Seat Availability or PSA. Many of you have commented that flyzed gives similar information, and I have to agree, they do. We obtain our information from Sabre, the leading global distribution system and just as flyzed does, we interpret this information and supply the results to you. However, our web site is 10 times better than flyzed for the following -
1. Flyzed's design appears as though it was created in the 80's. Our site has a modern look.
2. Flyzed only gives you 3 smiley faces for PSA, while we break it down even more and give 5 descriptive categories - Great, Good, OK, Capacity and Oversold.
3. Along with each flight, we give you the phone number to call for listing. All the information in one location.
4. Flyzed's log on is not user friendly. With our web site, you create your own account for easy log in and account access.
5. With our web site you can store itineraries for future reference.
6. With our web site, you can sign up for cell phone alerts for the flights you want to non rev on. You can go to our site as often as you want to check the latest PSA. And/or sign up for our PSA mobile alerts and we will send the latest PSA to you. So if your out golfing, shopping or on a flight, we send it to your phone at convenient times you choose before departure. No more having to find a computer. No more having to call several airlines reservations, be put on hold forever, and then get an answer that could be different depending on the mood of the agent.
7. With our site you have access to weather, hotels, rental cars, destination information and other non rev information. All located in one web site.

There were several posts regarding a statement that "They claim that you can still get a seat and not be bumped ever, including having a whole row to yourself!!". We do not offer that promise anywhere in our ads or on the web site. We do mention that with our system, you can stop getting bumped, but we never say "guaranteed" or use the word "ever". With our system you can look all the flights between two cities and with that information, you can choose only the flights that look "Great" and thus greatly improve you odds of not getting bumped from a flight. Without our system, you may be choosing the wrong flights and/or airlines to non rev on thus greatly increasing you odds of being bumped. With regards to the second statement we do not guarantee you will have an entire row to yourself. However, just as described previously, finding the flights that look Great will improve your odds to find the flights that have many open seats thus giving you that possibility.

As I mentioned in the opening, if you have any questions, please feel free to send me an email at brad@nonrevcheckn.com


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 20506 times:



Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 18):

Does HP/US in Tempe know that you guys have this website running for their airline? Are you licensed to do this kind of stuff?

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 18):
We obtain our information from Sabre...

Sounds a bit illegal unless you guys have a license obtained from Sabre and HP/US as well as the other airlines that is advertised on the site.

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 18):
There were several posts regarding a statement that "They claim that you can still get a seat and not be bumped ever, including having a whole row to yourself!!". We do not offer that promise anywhere in our ads or on the web site. We do mention that with our system, you can stop getting bumped, but we never say "guaranteed" or use the word "ever".

It was on the first page of that website as well as the ad on Facebook, only now to see the claim was removed after this thread was created. Trying to save face, I see!

 arrow Tell me why people should have to pay to use your website just to check in when I can do it at my company's website for free?

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 18):
I was informed of this post and wanted to answer any and all questions about our web site.

So you paid A.net $25 just to post one thing??



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User currently offlineNonRevCheckin From United States of America, joined May 2009, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 20496 times:

Mr. AirframeAS,

Over three years ago when we started this project, as I mentioned in the previous post, the main function of our web site was checkin on HP/US. At that time, we approached HP/US, talking with VP Travis Christ among others, to make this a joint venture, and they declined. So to answer your question, yes HP/US knows about our site.

The site is legal. All information on the site is obtained from public areas. Search even this site and I am sure you will find most of the information we publish. There are numerous other sources we use to compile information.

We do have a legal contract to obtain Sabre GDS information. Just as flyzed and a few other sites out there. (I am assuming they have permission. I cannot guarantee that though.)

We have not changed our ads or web site. Respectfully sir, you misread the advertisement.

Why should people have to pay to use the web site? I believe I described many of the reasons in my previous post. Most airline employee web sites do not have the functionality or access to obtain flight loads on over 130 airlines around the world. You usually can only obtain loads for your airline. And to that point, some airline web sites are very slow, archaic and frustrating to use. Most airlines are not willing to poor money into improving the employee web sites which is understandable considering the current economic status of the industry.

I think the biggest selling point of why you should join our site is the text message alert system. You sign up for the flights you want to keep posted on and you can go about your business and we will keep you updated.

As you can tell from my "joined date" that indeed, I just joined the site. I am familiar with the site and as a matter of fact we do advertise on this site thru Google adwords. But it wasn't until this post was brought to my attention that I wanted to respond to the many questions. In order to respond, you must be a paying member as I am sure you know. We pride ourselves in trying to provide the best customer service possible, another item you will not find on flyzed or other similar sites.

Respectfully,
Brad


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 20494 times:



Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 20):
Over three years ago when we started this project, as I mentioned in the previous post, the main function of our web site was checkin on HP/US. At that time, we approached HP/US, talking with VP Travis Christ among others, to make this a joint venture, and they declined. So to answer your question, yes HP/US knows about our site.

Then you do not have a license to do this with their company. Sabre probably would get into a lot of trouble legally with US over this since it is a proprietary/privacy issue. Airlines do not just give out flight loads for the heck of it, it is private information that is a part of their business plan to run their companies according to business plan to stay afloat.

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 20):
The site is legal.

I disagree.

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 20):
We do have a legal contract to obtain Sabre GDS information.

Care to share that contract with us? Because I am beginning to doubt this....

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 20):
Just as flyzed and a few other sites out there.

Those companies are contracted THROUGH the airlines, just like ID90.com is.

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 20):
Most airlines are not willing to poor money into improving the employee web sites which is understandable considering the current economic status of the industry.

 redflag  ID90.com just improved some stuff in the last month.

Quoting NonRevCheckin (Reply 20):
I think the biggest selling point of why you should join our site is the text message alert system.

I can get that easily through the airlines website for free. Not see how your website is a bargain.

In a nutshell, if I were you, I would be sure that you are within legal bounds to have this website up and running before US pitches a fit about what I have explained above. You can get sued easily for this as you are exposing their operation to others, which is endangerment, IMO.



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