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What Makes A Plane "Good To Fly On".  
User currently offlineJlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 621 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5561 times:
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I have seen statements similar to: this plane is good to fly on. I was wondering what that means to different people. What makes the plane good to fly on? Who's decisions make the plane good, the manufacturers, or the Airlines? Dose service make the plane good to fly on?
Your thoughts. Thanks, John.


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User currently offlineLuke From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 5508 times:

I think its certainly a mixture of both manufacturer and airline influences..

In terms of the factors which are a result of decisions made by the aircraft manufacturer and are therefore aircraft type specific, I would suggest:
Noise levels
Width of the cabin
Size and placement of cabin windows
Cabin architecture (shape of ceiling panels, shape and size of overhead bins etc.)
Effectiveness of air conditioning system
Placement and functionality of overhead air vents and reading lights

Other factors such as seat comfort, mood lighting, IFE, carpeting etc. are factors which I think are more dependant on airline decisions. IMO, airline decisions concerning IFE and seat comfort are some of the major differentiation points in my experience. The difference between typical modern jet aircraft types seems minimal to me.

However, there will be interdependencies between the aircraft manufacturer and the airline - for example mood lighting requires the manufacturer to make it available as an option on its aircraft types, while the airline ultimately has the final decision on weather or not to have it fitted to the aircraft..


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

In my opinion, the airline is a much bigger factor than the aircraft type. All aircraft can be good to fly on if the airline installs comfortable seats with enough seat pitch and offers decent service.

Most passengers don't have a clue what type of aircraft they're flying on, but they can certainly tell the difference between a 9-abreast 777 and a 10-abreast 777.

There can be minor advantages based solely on the aircraf type. For example I much preferred to fly on DC-10s and MD-11s compared to L1011s because the DC-10/MD-11 windows are signficantly larger (about 25%) and made the cabin seem brighter and roomier, in addition to permitting a much better view.


User currently offlineZoom1018 From Vietnam, joined May 2005, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 8 hours ago) and read 5453 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
In my opinion, the airline is a much bigger factor than the aircraft type. All aircraft can be good to fly on if the airline installs comfortable seats with enough seat pitch and offers decent service.

Thinking the same thing. Seat pitch is the reason I choose BR over other airlines.
I would also add to it the air-con... last week, I flew with VN on its A330-200 and it was hot at the back.

Many people talk about noise. I have flown on a lot of 777s and many 330s, and only on BR's 330 (sat in the front) when I found the plane was quieter... VN's 330s are very noisy while their new 777s are so smooth and quiet?!

When I flew on B777 the first time with CZ, I found the plane was huge and the seats were narrow... until I flew with CX when I suddenly realised the difference in term of seat width and pitch!


User currently offlineYXD172 From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5410 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
In my opinion, the airline is a much bigger factor than the aircraft type. All aircraft can be good to fly on if the airline installs comfortable seats with enough seat pitch and offers decent service.

I agree with one exception: the CRJ (-100/-200) ! For myself, the placement of the windows makes the whole ride uncomfortable. I guess most "normal" people wouldn't care as much, but I like to stare out the window most of the flight and having to crane my neck down just to see the horizon is a royal pain.

That said, the airline controls most of the other factors (seat pitch/width, other IFE, etc) that influence the comfort of the a/c.

Jon



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User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5397 times:

Pretty much if it is any aircraft larger than a CRJ/ERJ, the airline is what makes an aircraft "good to fly on."

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