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RTW Trip, Input And Opinions Needed  
User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4058 times:

Hi guys,

I am planning to do a RTW trip in July, but it won't be with a RTW ticket from Star Alliance or oneworld. I am not doing the trip to visit many places over the globe but rather to combine some business in Hawaii, Bangkok and Istanbul in one trip.

So I've spent many hours researching the best options, keeping the costs down, and I came up with the following:

- Vienna to Toronto on Air Transat, overnight in Toronto
- Toronto to Honolulu, doesn't really matter which airline
- Honolulu to Bangkok on China Airlines
- Bangkok to Istanbul and then to Vienna on Turkish Airlines

It would be my first trip on Air Transat, and the flight is scheduled on the A-310. I know that this airline has 3-3-3 layout in economy, but I believe there are also some 2-3-2 seats in the back and the seat pitch seems to be alright. Any experiences out there on long haul flights with Air Transat? Would it be worth it to upgrade this flight to Club Class?

On the Toronto to Honolulu leg, I don't really care which airline but I think I'd prefer to fly on a wide-body. Six-hours-plus in economy on a narrow-body just doesn't sound too appealing...

Another option is with Air Berlin from Dusseldorf to Vancouver or Los Angeles. But I would only do this if I can book an XL seat on the A330, as the other economy seats have a pitch of only 30 inches if I am correct, and there are only a few XL seats per flight...

On the Bangkok to Istanbul leg, Turkish Airlines would be the fastest option. Although I am seriously contemplating taking the Emirates A380, as I've never flown on this bird before. The fare would be about $80 more, but it would also involve a long layover in Dubai.

So I guess my main question is the one about Air Transat, but any other input from people who have done something similar or have good tips is more than welcome.

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User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4047 times:



Quoting Levent (Thread starter):
On the Toronto to Honolulu leg, I don't really care which airline but I think I'd prefer to fly on a wide-body. Six-hours-plus in economy on a narrow-body just doesn't sound too appealing...

There aren't any airlines that currently fly YYZ-HNL nonstop. You will have to change planes at an intermediate hub. At least part of the trip will probably be on a narrow-body.


User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4021 times:



Quoting Eghansen (Reply 1):
There aren't any airlines that currently fly YYZ-HNL nonstop. You will have to change planes at an intermediate hub. At least part of the trip will probably be on a narrow-body.

Correct, a quick check for a one-way on July 14th comes up with:
- YYZ-LAX-HNL on United, A320 and 767-300
- YYZ-PHX-HNL on US Airways, A319 and 757
- YYZ-SEA-HNL on Air Canada and Alaska Airlines, E190 and 737
- YYZ-IAH-HNL on Continental, ERJ145 and 767-400

The rprice difference between above flights is minimal.

I would love to fly on the 757, never been on one before, but I would prefer the 767 on the leg to HNL. And I adore the E190, but don't fancy the 737 from SEA to HNL. I should clarify that it's not because of the size of the aircraft, but because of the seating layout. I very much dislike a 3-3 seating. So out of the options above, I would probably go for the Continental flights. Would a one-hour connection at Houston be enough?


User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

An hour in Houston would be enough to connect although I can't picture flying on a E145 YYZ-IAH. It is about a 3 1/2 hour flight in a tiny aircraft.

The Continental 767-400 is nice and it is a good airline (for the US).


User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 3948 times:

Have you checked this toy for RTW trips, oneworld's 'plan & book' site:
http://www.oneworld.com/ow/flight-info/plan-and-book-your-itinerary


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3938 times:



Quoting Levent (Reply 2):
Quoting Eghansen (Reply 1):
There aren't any airlines that currently fly YYZ-HNL nonstop. You will have to change planes at an intermediate hub. At least part of the trip will probably be on a narrow-body.


Correct, a quick check for a one-way on July 14th comes up with:
- YYZ-LAX-HNL on United, A320 and 767-300
- YYZ-PHX-HNL on US Airways, A319 and 757
- YYZ-SEA-HNL on Air Canada and Alaska Airlines, E190 and 737
- YYZ-IAH-HNL on Continental, ERJ145 and 767-400

You could also use AC YYZ-YVR-HNL but not on July 14th as AC summer service YVR-HNL is 4 per week (Monday/Thursday/Friday/Sunday). The best connection to that flight would be on an A319 YYZ-YVR but AC has 2 or 3 767-300 departures a day YYZ-YVR but it would mean spending most of the day in YVR as those flights depart earlier in the day. There's also an A330-300 YYZ-YVR but it arrives too late for a legal connection to HNL. The fastest AC connection is as follows:

YYZ-YVR AC147 1500-1705
YVR-HNL AC047 1845-2145


User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3926 times:



Quoting Andaman (Reply 4):
Have you checked this toy for RTW trips, oneworld's 'plan & book' site:

Yes, it's a great tool! I did put an itinerary together with this tool. But the cheapest ticket ex-VIE seems to be almost EUR 2000 plus taxes, and if I combine one-ways as mentioned in my first post, I would be able to end up around EUR 1500-1600. A couple of hundred euros savings is well worth it, I think.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
You could also use AC YYZ-YVR-HNL

Yes, this is a good option also if flying with Air Berlin VIE-DUS-YVR, in which case the layover in Vancouver would be about 4 hours. Once I have a fixed date of travel, I could look into this, but I would only book on Air Berlin if I can get an XL seat.

If anyone here has flown on an Air Berlin / LTU A330 in economy, I would love to hear about your experience.

Thanks a lot for all your input so far, it's highly appreciated. Keep 'em coming!


User currently offlineOffshoreAir From United States of America, joined May 2009, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3915 times:



Quoting Levent (Reply 6):

If anyone here has flown on an Air Berlin / LTU A330 in economy, I would love to hear about your experience.

Thanks a lot for all your input so far, it's highly appreciated. Keep 'em coming!

I just flew and Air Berlin / LTU A330 in Economy BER1900 MIA-DUS. I was really, really skeptical about the flight since all the trip reports I read were very negative. I was actually very surprised on how the flight went. Albeit it was my birthday I spent crossing the Atlantic, I asked the gate agent if there were any seats left right before boarding where I could have an empty seat next to me. She said there was only one place left, and it was in the very last row on the right side of the plane. I immediately took that seat, and this made the flight quite nice. I got two amenity kits (I am not use to getting an amenity kit in coach) and two blankets. The proximity to the rear galley and lav was not an issue for me at all. The aircraft was very clean, the service was great, and there were even a couple younger and cute female flight attendants. The food was also a non-issue - it wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. It was literally just something from keeping me from going hungry. The IFE was just a few LCD's on the ceiling, but the only attention I paid them was to see where we were on the moving map. Overall, it was a very, very good experience, but maybe that is because I thought it was going to be flying RyanAir Trans-Atlantic.

Hope this helps! PM me if you have anymore questions.



OffshoreAir
User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

The quest for the best option from Vienna to Honolulu continues and I now have the following question:

I may be flying YVR-HNL on a day without the non-stop Air Canada service.
I found some possibilities via Seattle or San Francisco, but in both cases the connecting time is a mere 50 minutes. Would that be enough for connecting at either airport, or should I just forget about these options?

Also, would it be possible to do the US immigration pre-clearance in Vancouver? I can imagine that 50 minutes would defintely not be enough if pre-clearance in YVR isn't possible.


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