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Airline Seats. Good Bad And Downright Ugly  
User currently offline777Heaven From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 30 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11543 times:

Talk of airlines seating arrangements and cabins have made me think. Who has the best seat pitch, seat width and amenties in Economy and who has the worst.

Most asthetically pleasing cabins and the ones that give you a headache. Who will you never fly with again?

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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1846 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11535 times:
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I once flew on a leased 738 of Miami Air, on behalf of HV. The plane looked great and the cabin crew were real nice. But by god, those seats! It was horrific! I was situated in front of an emergency exit (selected exit on check in but LL has another cabin layout) so no recline! It was the worst flight in terms of comfort i've had to this day. Even the FR seats are way better!


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User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11487 times:

Most uncomfortable longhaul Y class seats I have ever encountered were EK on the 777 and KL on their 747 Combi.

Of the better ones I suggest QR on most types, SQ on the 747 or MH for glorious 34" legroom.

Short haul I always found BA seats to be fairly bum friendly.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11484 times:

One aircraft I do my best to avoid is the BAe146/Avro RJ when operated with 6-abreast economy seating, like thise operated by most carriers in Europe. Seats and aisles are very narrow at 6-abreast. Example LH:


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On the other hand, when equipped with 5-abreast seating like those operated by LX and SN (also Blue 1 in Finland), they are among the most comfortable narrowbody aircraft. That's especially true of the LX Avro RJ100s since they were refitted with new lightweight Recaro seats (identical to the 6-abreast seats on their A319/320/321s) over the past couple of years (2nd photo below). They probably could have added another row of seats with the new seats but decided to leave the pitch and total seating unchanged at 97 to avoid the need for a 3rd flight attendant. The new seats thus have about 2 more inches of effective legroom than the old seats (which also had adequate legroom).


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User currently offlineElBandGeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11455 times:

Although they're not around anymore, I always loved the seats on ATA's 738s and 757s The black leather gave the feeling of subtle elegance and were just so comfortable (to this day, the only planes I've been able to successfully sleep in). I wish more airlines had the winged headrests they did (I think AA might...I vaguely remember them on the 738 I took ORD-SNA in 04)


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I'd say my least favorite are UA's 737s. Having flown them twice in my life, once in 1992 and again in 2001, I don't think they updated the interiors at all in that 9 year span (or in the 8 years since)


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User currently offlineBartonsayswhat From Canada, joined Oct 2007, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 11342 times:

Hands down most uncomfortable seat ever is the CRJ jumpseat. I'm 5'10" and thought my legs were going to fall off by the end of YHZ - YOW (with about a 15 min wait for a ramp crew at the gate)

If you could see through my legs, only about 1/2" of my big toes would be in frame. ( Shoe size 10.5 / 43)


User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11265 times:

I loathe Continentals seats in Y. I find them excruciating like sitting on a concrete slab for hours. I like their service but the seats are so bad.

User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5684 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11248 times:

Recently I have flown NW's A330 and 757 across the Atlantic and I loved the (by today's standards) generous seat pitch of the 757 and more comfortable seats than those on A330.
What I found absolutely disgusting was total absence of those velcro-attached paper towels on headrests and obviously "pre-used blanket and pillow"  yuck .


User currently offlineTonyban From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 11077 times:

I absolutley hate the 2-5-2 configurations on United's and American's 777 fleet. The 'E' seat is an absolute nightmare to be in.

User currently offlineJetterrosie From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10929 times:

I spend about half of the year flying around the world but getting into the SA)">AA economy class cabin never fails to shock me. I don't think its just because it is small, dirty and uncomfortable as many Y class cabins are like that. I think it's because when you come to the US everything seems bigger...cars, food portions, cocktails (!), freeways, buildings...yet SA)">AA seats are definitely teeny tiny!

Air NZ long haul economy is one of my favourites for seat pitch and personal space. When the person in front of you puts their seat back you think 'uh-oh' but when you put yours back too there is plenty of room and it's comfy. NZ domestic/trans-tasman is often a different story though.

Not sure if updated now but BA's long haul economy with the foot rests are good - not so much the space but comfy.

I generally find really old Y class seats comfier as they are well worn to the shape of a human body - sometimes brand new ones need some breaking in like a new couch or bed does!

I'm fortunate now to mainly fly business long haul but when there is an economy leg I'm really picky about airlines so would definitely say NZ, BA, SA, SQ. I would never use a US carrier for long haul economy unless it was a life or death emergency.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11617 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10921 times:

The best:

Air France longhaul; comfortable seat and plenty of legroom on the 3-3-3 772ERs, wouldn't be so sure about the 773ERs with 3-4-3 seating, that might be a bit tight.

The worst:

It's a close tie between ThomsonFly (8 abrest 767 and 30 inch pitch which I could barely physically sit in) and a small carrier in the Ukraine called Lugansk Airlines, with the latter 'winning' as they expected 6ft of me to slip comfortably into this bulkhead space:




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User currently offlineSlinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10908 times:



Quoting Tonyban (Reply 8):
I absolutley hate the 2-5-2 configurations on United's and American's 777 fleet. The 'E' seat is an absolute nightmare to be in.

I agree, but in the days of more space through coach, the A/B and H/J pairs were very good.


User currently offlineSebjacques92 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 10904 times:

I have to say in general the best airline seats tend to be the slim Recaro seats that i have seen on Air Berlin many times. Im sure there are many other airlines that feature them but i haven't flown another airline with this type of seat.

Im not fond of the leather seats featured on British Airways A320 aircraft, find them very uncomfortable and annoying!


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2592 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10888 times:

If we're talking Economy, some of these stick out in my mind:

Worst:
EK B777-200ER - very uncomfortable - even with 2 seats to myself.

Best:
EK B777-200LR - ironically very comfortable compared to the above. More legroom and noticeably more comfortable seat. Obviously tailored for ULH routes.

Gaudiest:
BG DC-10 30 - flower power.


User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2093 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 10878 times:

I think the worst I've encountered (besides CRJ-100/200/440s) were on a UA 757 and an A320. Width was okay, but there was no room front-to-back between rows in normal Y because of those friggin' Y+ seats (which they wanted $85 a person to upgrade to)


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User currently offlinePocho From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10638 times:

Gotta love JetBlue's seat pitch. Their E-190s have up to 33". Love their huge windows too.



User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17056 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10632 times:



Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 10):

How can someone physically sit there?



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1458 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10606 times:

Worst:
UA 737s
Mesa CJRs
CO 737s
These coach seats had very little leg room and very thin padding.

Best:
For me, any seat First Class or Business


User currently offlineFghtngsiouxatc From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 10452 times:



Quoting ElBandGeek (Reply 4):
Although they're not around anymore, I always loved the seats on ATA's 738s and 757s The black leather gave the feeling of subtle elegance and were just so comfortable

I too REALLY miss ATA's new interior. I used to fly the 738 and 753 often to PIE, MSP, and DEN back when they had their hub at MDW. Those seats were so comfortable with pretty decent legroom too. I miss that airline. I also flew two of their older 752's to AUA...not quite as comfortable with their blue cloth seats.

Now I'm stuck on NW boring and ugly blue seats that aren't comfortable at all. Can't wait til DL refurbs NW cabins

And just a minor correction...the leather on ATA was brown  Wink


User currently offlineLDIkaros From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10339 times:

The best Y class seats for me: OZ, CX (the new seats!). Seats are comfy, great entertainment, and with the new CX seats nobody can recline into your personal space.

Worst seat pitch for longhaul Y: AC A330-300 seat 45K; I could barely sit down, and that was at the beginning of an 11 hour flight (and no, the person is front of me did not have his/her seat reclined!).

Weirdest seats: MH on their B737. The seats seem to be randomly colored red, blue, yellow (if I remember the colors correctly). The seats themselves are comfortable but after a few hours the color scheme becomes too much.


User currently offlineTietkej From Germany, joined Jun 2009, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10313 times:

Worst: EK A345 - Sat Y from DXB-SYD non-stop, seat recline was broken, seats were sat through all the way (I felt like I was sitting on the floor) and felt like they were 20 years old (the aircraft looked fine at least.......   ).

Best: VS has an excellent economy class. Premium Economy is even better with 21" width and only 5 rows for the entire class (2-3-2 config on A346) - you wouldn't believe what a difference it makes to have a toilet and two curtains shared between five rows.



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User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10018 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 6):
I loathe Continentals seats in Y. I find them excruciating like sitting on a concrete slab for hours. I like their service but the seats are so bad.

Agreed. The headrests on the 737 fleet give me headaches. CO's crews and airport personnel are among the nicest I've experienced though.

My personal favorite for economy--CSA Czech's ATR economy seats. They're big, comfy, and offer decent legroom. Cabin is surprisingly quiet. I found the seats to be only slightly smaller than a standard US domestic F seat.



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