KLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 806 posts, RR: 23 Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3294 times:
Not long ago I non- reved AMS-GRU-AMS with a friend of mine.
We were in C-class to GRU, this was offcourse very nice on the new 777 with
the massaging seats, avod , huge ptv's, fancy dinner and drinks , etc,etc...
Yet i didn't have a very good night sleep.
On the way back we were in coach, but the groundstaff managed to get each of us
a whole row to ourselves. ( 3 seats)
The plane wasn't full so I took 2 extra blankets and 4 extra pillows and made myself
a great bed. I had my meal , watched a movie, listened to some music and then fell asleep
watching the stars as I lied with my head at the window facing the clear nightsky.
I slept 8hours straight. It was the best sleep I ever had on an plane.
I never managed to do that on the 4 trips in C-class I had so far.
So in the future if I have a choice I'll go for the coach-row anyday.
SafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 16 Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3202 times:
I flew SFO-DFW on an AA 763, and not only did I have a whole row (yes, from one window seat to the next), there were not any people around me for quite a few rows. I was able to get a lot done, but I would not have minded some IFE and food.
N6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3132 times:
I once screwed myself by getting an exit row on a red eye flight from LAS to ATL. Everyone else on the flight had a row to themselves (as did I). The only problem was that the arm rests on the DL 757 didn't raise so while everyone (and I mean everyone) on the flight had a row to themselves, I has 6 empty emergency row sets and couldn't lay down.
Warren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3129 times:
it is only good in Y class when you have 4 seats to yourself as 3 is rather short to make a proper bed.
Certainly, First or Biz is preferred but the above would work also.
Once, when I was a student a chap in my roll offered to sleep on the floor so I can have the 4 across and each one of us would have a bed!
Cancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3109 times:
it depends. if i get an entire row in Y i'll take it, otherwise i rather F. then again, for me to nonrev in F i have to pay $20, so it's not really worth it if the flight is empty and i can get an entire row.
"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3077 times:
I managed to get a row (3 seats) to myself by asking for a seat change right at the last minute (I was last on board). Turned out the only empty economy seats on the entire 747 were the two next to me!
Did get to try VS Upper Class once, but was loving it too much to sleep!
I also managed to get a good sleep on EK's business class 777 and 340. Not sure why since I have great problems sleeping on planes normally...
KITH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 371 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3077 times:
One of the best flights of my life was NW redeye SFO-DTW with 3 coach seats to myself. Got to lie down flat w/ no armrests/seatbelts...best nights sleep (or 4 hours anyways) especially with a few pillows. Though, NW's first class isn't much but on SQ i'd take first. -Matt in KITH
Dinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1056 posts, RR: 19 Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3006 times:
Best flight I have ever had was on a UA flight a few years ago from SFO-SYD. I was in the second to last row of economy in the middle with 4 seats all to myself. I slept for about 12 hours on the 14 hour flight. For the 2 hours that I was not sleeping I had a lady traveling with kids come have a sleep for 2 hours while her husband took care of the kids up at the bulkhead. She slept in the three seats while I watched the movie.
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OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2999 times:
Copa Airlines flight PTY-MIA about a year ago, I had the entire back row (six seats) to myself. I planted myself in a middle seat, put on my headphones, and then watched a movie. Afterwards there was a a very spectacular lighting show outside my window due to some nearby storms. Reclining seats, who needs 'em?
Bsmalls35 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2971 times:
Off point: this topic would probably be a better fit in aviation polls & preferences forum. On point: I would prefer a seat in first or biz. I get a bit nervous when flying and usually keep my seat belt on throughout the flight. Of course, you can't do this when stretched out over 3 or 4 seats.
Babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3626 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2937 times:
Although I'm yet to try the fully flat beds available in some F and J products my experience of other F and J seats hasn't been all that good. Unless the thing is fully flat it's not worth having. It can feel like trying to sleep in a dentist's chair. I also find that you feel you are obliged to stay awake for the posh food and booze. Then you have to listen to some creep in the next seat trying to sound you out for business etc.
I have flown many times on long haul in Y with 3 seats to myself and it is those flts that I remember as being the most comfortable. When you've got some massive flt in front of you all you want is to get a bite to eat and then put your head down and get some Zzz for the rest of the trip.
3 seats in Economy for me every time!
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
RogueTrader From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2928 times:
This is a very perceptive point.
Non flat business class seats aren't that great, I think. The seats aren't comfortable for sleeping and create pressure points. I'f I'm paying for it myself, I try to get an empty flight and then get near the back of coach, in the center section of seats. Its great and I don't care about fancy food anyway. I can sleep like a baby across the seats in coach, and obviously the FAs won't be offering much service to bother me with; while in Biz class I find sleep difficult.
My idea is to have bunk beds in coach, stacked 3 high, maybe on the A380. Yes, it would be a little, cozy, but I'd settle for military style accomodation if I can only lay flat. In fact, I don't need any FAs, nor food or drink or anything, (I can bring my own) if I can only convince the airlines to do this and let me lay flat on a long flight. I don't know why it wouldn't be possible, since the human body takes up the same amount of space regardless of the position its in. Join me in my crusade for bunk beds in coach!
Ualonghaul From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2873 times:
On any real airlines, F or C is 100 times better than Y class.
You can give me the entire Y cabin to myself and I would still want to upgrade. Laying over a bunch of seats uncomfortably (all the bumps and seatbelts) is no where near as comortable as a good C or F product.
Anyone who said a row of Y is better has not been in C or F on a real airline (Southwest / Am West / Cheap carriers do not count as a real airline)
Msl747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 412 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2697 times:
DFW-SFO on a UA 777 in '98. We had the entire center row of seats to our selves! 5 seats!!! My Mom sat at one end and my Dad at the other, I lay down between them and was able to get 6 hours of sleep, almost the whole flight!!!
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