PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2648 posts, RR: 10 Posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4318 times:
My parents suggested that we go to Hawaii for vacation this coming February. So, like the "travel guru" I am, I took the liberty of checking ticket prices for a week-long excursion to Honolulu, from Syracuse. The ticket prices are all pretty much the same, give or take $5, which is obviously not a problem at all.
UA chimes in the lowest at $593. Express to ORD then n/s 777 to HNL. I believe there are no PTVs on their HNL flights?
Then comes AA at $597. Eagle to ORD, then n/s 763 to HNL. Obviously no PTVs, but do the HNL-configured 767s have MRTC?
Then NW, also at $597. Express to MSP then n/s DC10 to HNL. No PTVs here, but I've never been on a DC10. Quite rare to fly these days.
The question is, of these three choices, which should I choose? The rare DC10 with ~31" pitch (I'll probably never get another chance to fly it)? MRTC 34" pitch on AA's 763?UA's excellent service on their 777 (32" pitch)? Will UA be here in February to actually fly me there? The PTVs don't really matter- it's my little sister I'm concerned about. I don't want to watch her for 8+ hours . It really is a tough decision. Thanks to all that reply !
Edit: P.S. This is not a UA-bashing thread. I took them to Frankfurt in June, and they've got excellent service, PTVs (777 only ), and some of the cleanest planes around.
MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4973 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4253 times:
Traditionally the domestic tickets of bankrupt airlines that ceased operating have been honored by other domestic carriers on a space-available, standby basis. This is not true of international tickets.
Thus, so long as your exact time of travel isn't important, a UAL ticket to Hawaii should be a safe purchase regardless of what might happen to UAL.
JMChladek From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 331 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4233 times:
Well, admittedly it has been awhile since I flew a NW DC-10, but even being smaller then I am now (about 20 years ago), flying on a DC-10 from MSP to LAX felt like a sardine can with the 2-5-2 rows (even with me sitting in a window seat). Now I suppose it might have been a 2-4-2 arrangement, but I am pretty sure it was 2-5-2 in coach. If the seat pitch and seat arrangement is better these days, then a DC-10 ride might be interesting if you've never done one before. But personally I like the 767 seat layout and the 777 seems roomier with its wider cabin and taller roof (helped by the overhead bin design).
Jamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 928 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4184 times:
Well, if you have already started accruing frequent flier miles on United from your trip to Frankfurt, I would personally stick with them. It's always good to stick with one frequent flier program. You will be well on your way to earning a free ticket. Through the Star Alliance, you will be able to accrue United miles on US Airways, Air Canada, and Lufthansa, just to name a few. Personally, I do not think an antiquated DC-10 is anything to write home about. Enjoy your trip.
TomFoolery From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 512 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4054 times:
If the concern is UA's future, and gambling on the tickets, pay for them with a credit card. Many credit cards will cover you if an airline/travel tour/cruise line goes under, and you get re-accommodated. It is best to check with your credit card company in any event. UA Has taken great strides to make reforms to their internal business, and I find it difficult to believe that they would fall. I don't know of any of the 777 long hauls (UA) that don't have PTV's.
If comfort is your game, go for AA's MRTC. Their service is excellent as well.
The days are slowly counting down for your opportunity to ride a DC-10. These will be gradually replaced by A-330's in the coming years.
FinnWings From Finland, joined Oct 2003, 640 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3934 times:
You can fly with B777 whenever you want in the future, but DC-10s are getting rare. I would definitely choose NW and the DC-10 purely due the type of the aircraft. Take the DC-10 when you still have a chance!!
A few years ago I took Fokker 100 instead of B727... Never flown on B727 and I most likely missed my only chance then. I can't forgive for myself even today...
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12010 posts, RR: 50 Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3905 times:
Us a credit card for piece of mind. Remember though if they should close down and another airline might accept the ticket, the other airline will do it on a stand by bases and that time of the year the flights can and will be FULL!
COEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 605 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3875 times:
I would take the NW DC-10. Very rare to find in US, and not around that much longer. Escpecially if non of the other flights have PTV's I would go w/ NW since for IFE, it would be the same for all the flights. If you don't do this, I would go w/ AA for MRTC, however, I've seen some flights from ORD-HNL do sometimes have the PTV's 777, but not much.
COEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 605 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 5 days ago) and read 3857 times:
I don't know what exact time you would be planning in Feb. to fly, but I did a random search on CO from 2/5 - 2/12 from SYR-HNL. I got for $647.50 CO connection to EWR, than to HNL of 767-400. The same route coming back just opposite. I know it's a little more money, but CO's ERJ's are VERY nice, all leather seats. Plus, w/ CO 764's, you get the new interiors plus PTV's!! To make the flight go by. Just another option if money isn't that big of a deal.
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2648 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3849 times:
Hey everybody! I appreciate the all of the replies !
I don't want to take CO on the trip, because they're all I take everywhere else, with the exception of my trip to Germany last month. I assume you can get CO miles for a flight on NW, correct?
I've decided to go with either NW or AA. It really is a tough decision. Comfortable seat pitch, or a DC10. It may not be the Concorde, but I'll probably regret choosing the extra 2" of leg space over a tri-jet a few years from now. The funny thing is, I have a better chance getting on a DC10 than an MD11. That just plain sucks. I'll just have to see how it works out.
P.S. I'm going in late February. It's cheaper that way . Haha.