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Why Are Fares So High?  
User currently offlineNeverest From France, joined Dec 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

I am looking to travel CDG-EWR in August and the lowest fare is over $900. More than twice this should cost in normal times. The oil price is hovering at $60. Are airlines fighting recession by increasing price and lamenting lack of travelers?

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User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Supply and demand, I'm afraid.

If you are travelling in a peak month then expect fares to be high. But there are cheaper rates available if you:

a) choose to fly midweek
b) consider JFK rather than EWR because there is a greater choice of airlines
c) consider booking an indirect routing rather than a non-stop service.


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

In general, prices are driven by yields, competition, oil prices and the level of demand relative to supply. Perhaps you chose a set of dates that are expensive since most people travel on them. What about CDG-JFK? Perhaps prices are cheaper.

What airline are you flying? I recall that the cheapest TATL ticket was on Air India, not sure if this is still the case though.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4571 times:

$900 for New York-Paris in August (peak summer travel season, especially to Europe) is not outrageous at all.


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User currently offlineSQ25J From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

Most likely $900 is total price including taxes, fees, surcharges.

The fare itself is most likely $500....additional $400 is fuel suecharge, (probably 100-150 RT, security taxes, federal taxes, etc).

In my opinion...fares are lower than ever


User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4504 times:



Quoting Neverest (Thread starter):

That isn't expensive at all, stop complaining. Air travel is unsustainably cheap right now, I challenge you to find a mode of transportation that is the same price or cheaper AND can get you there in half a day.


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10598 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4484 times:



Quoting NorCal (Reply 5):
That isn't expensive at all, stop complaining. Air travel is unsustainably cheap right now, I challenge you to find a mode of transportation that is the same price or cheaper AND can get you there in half a day.

Except walking???  duck 



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User currently onlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4484 times:



Quoting Neverest (Thread starter):
I am looking to travel CDG-EWR in August and the lowest fare is over $900. More than twice this should cost in normal times. The oil price is hovering at $60. Are airlines fighting recession by increasing price and lamenting lack of travelers
?

$900?? That's cheap for US to Europe. I once paid only $700 5 years ago but otherwise everyone of my summertime US-Europe flights has been over $1000. In my mind, $1000-$1300 is very reasonable.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19244 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4458 times:



Quoting Joeljack (Reply 7):
In my mind, $1000-$1300 is very reasonable.

They see you coming if that's what you pay! That's £610-£800! I normally pay £200-250 UK-US-UK during the winter, and £300-450 during the summer.



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User currently offlinePlaneAdmirer From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 564 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4428 times:

It's always interesting to contrast a post like this one to the posts lamenting the future of the industry and wages received by the employees.

For whatever reason, if I can fly across the US for $300 one way, or in your case the Atlantic Ocean for $500.00, safely, in a $30 to $150 million plane, and quickly, it's a bargain and I am grateful for the service especially when most carriers are losing money in the process. I don't know any other industry that strives as hard when losing money or barely making any money.

The criteria is if the trip is worth the cost or not. If yes, that's wonderful. If not, that's ok too.


User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4339 times:



Quoting NorCal (Reply 5):
That isn't expensive at all, stop complaining.

The price of anything is highly subjective. What gives you the authority to speak for someone else on whether that individual finds something expensive or not?

Quoting NorCal (Reply 5):
I challenge you to find a mode of transportation that is the same price or cheaper AND can get you there in half a day.

Pretty asinine 'challenge'......considering it's physically impossible to get from France to the US in half a day. I thought a pilot would have known that! However, that being said, I'll get it cheaper.....so you'd lose!


User currently offlinePI4EVER From United States of America, joined May 2009, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4265 times:
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Neverest:
As mentioned by the other posters, a $900 fare to/from Europe in August is a bargain in comparison to traditional travel costs in peak season. Not to say there aren't deals or bargains out there, but you have to be flexible with your travel dates, and to consider alternate airports/near-by cities/and airlines. Avoid travel near weekends - Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon - are high demand days with correspondening higher fares.
For example: US flies CDG-PHL. For most of August the fare is $918 plus tax from CDG. However, on 8/26 returning 9/2, the fare is $570 plus tax. Obviously not EWR, but it won't cost you $400 to get to EWR/NYC from the PHL airport. I realize if those travel dates do not fit with your plans, my suggestion is a mute point, but $570 for a transatlantic flight in Aug/Sep is a bargain! Consider BRU as well. Easy to get to by train, and in some cases fares much cheaper than CDG. Not always, but worth a look. Again, the point is it may not cost you $400 to get to BRU for a better fare or flight.
Good luck with your plans,
Thomas



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