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What To Expect On Qantas NZ - AUS  
User currently offlinePewpew320 From New Zealand, joined Mar 2009, 117 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6201 times:

Hello,

I'm just curious to see what one should expect flying Qantas between New Zealand and Australia i.e Meals, plane type, entertainment etc?

Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6189 times:

Now that Jetstar is operating domestic in New Zealand, Qantas have put Jetconnect's planes on a lot of TT routes until their 738s arrive. So that means crappy old 734s with barely any entertainment. Once the 738s come, you'll get PTVs. I haven't flown on QF for a while but their meals haven't really seemed to change that much over the years.. Still more of a "plane type" food than what NZ offers. AKL-SYD is mainly operated by 763s - they too don't have IFE. QF operate 738s into ZQN - just the usual Aussie domestic one. I don't think there's much more to it to be honest.


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User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2745 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6161 times:

Expect a fairly ordinary product. If you're flying from MEL or BNE to AKL then you'll likely get a 734, which has a pretty subpar onboard product. Even the 767 service is average. I'd go EK if you have a choice. If you're flying from WLG, I thinh there's more of a chance of getting 738s, but even then, ordinary.

User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4865 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6130 times:

Expect a proper hot meal (breakfast, lunch, dinner). Lunch and dinner are followed by icecream. Complimentary drinks including beer, wine, spirits.
Until the end of the year the aircraft are however as others have mentioned a bit tired (734/763) and don't have individual IFE, just main screens. Most Tasman flights are now operated by AKL based Jetconnect shorthaul crews (except a couple of AKL-SYD, CHC-SYD, and possibly ZQN).



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6036 times:



Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 2):
I'd go EK if you have a choice.

Either EK or NZ - both have good products across the Tasman, much better than what QF provides right now. Since QF pulled the 744 off QF25/26 to MEL, they don't really have much of a respectable product; mainly because they treat New Zealand rather similar to a domestic flight (use of domestic configured 763s etc).



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User currently offlineQF744FAN From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

I flew MEL-AKL with QF and the service was fantastic. Hot meal, drinks, dessert and comprehensive IFE.

It was on a non ER 744 and the service continued to LAX. I would recommend flying this route with QF again in a heartbeat. Though I do agree that for such an esteemed airline, their 734 product is not the best. If possible, definately try and book on a flight number that continues to the states, well worth it.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5994 times:
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Quoting QF744FAN (Reply 5):
If possible, definately try and book on a flight number that continues to the states, well worth it.

the 744 no longer flies trans Tasman for QF , the inbound flight from LAX turns around at AKL and heads back to LAX . I do admit that the 744 was nice , I flew it in March and even though it was the old style sloped skybed it was still very luxurious for the hop across to MEL - although I had to change seats because the TV wasnt working properly , would not have been impressed if I had been on a longhaul and unable to change seats . I am not surprised that they took it off the route though, I was one of only 4 pax upstairs.



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5969 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 6):
I am not surprised that they took it off the route though, I was one of only 4 pax upstairs.

I think it was more of a fact of getting the AKL flights to align with QF107/108 to JFK so that people from AKL could do same day transfers to/from New York without having to stay a day in LAX on both legs.



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User currently offlineV Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5965 times:

I worlk for QF and I'd go with NZ or EK

User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5951 times:
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Quoting V Jet (Reply 8):
I worlk for QF and I'd go with NZ or EK

 shhh  if your boss finds out that you said that you might not work for QF anymore  shhh 



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User currently offlineV Jet From Australia, joined May 1999, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5927 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 9):
if your boss finds out that you said that you might not work for QF anymore

I'd tell him that to his face. We are actually are free to fly with who we like!


User currently offlineFlyinghighboy From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5910 times:

Just want to check, QF 25/26 MEL-AKL-LAX the MEL-AKL portion is on a 734? and the rest is a 744?

User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5898 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 4):
mainly because they treat New Zealand rather similar to a domestic flight (use of domestic configured 763s etc).

Let's not forget that flight to NZ are shorter than quite a view Oz domestic services. I can understand QF's decision to treat NZ as a "domestic" destnation in terms of product, although I'd personally fly EK or NZ.....

Kent


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5891 times:
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Quoting Flyinghighboy (Reply 11):

Just want to check, QF 25/26 MEL-AKL-LAX the MEL-AKL portion is on a 734? and the rest is a 744?

correct , until later in the year when the 734 gets replaced by 73H , if I am not mistaken .



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5850 times:



Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 12):
Let's not forget that flight to NZ are shorter than quite a view Oz domestic services

What, those being all flights to Perth and Darwin? Qantas just hasn't responded to its competition in a constructive manner. They're light years behind with IFE now that NZ released the PTVs towards the end of last year. It'd be nice to see them send their A332s to AKL.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 13):
correct , until later in the year when the 734 gets replaced by 73H , if I am not mistaken .

Indeed, whenever they arrive. I don't know which routes are getting the 73H routes first because there is supposedly an order to which ones get the 73H first..



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User currently offlineJokestar From Australia, joined Apr 2008, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5835 times:

Expect an ordinary, domestic-style service because it literally is no different to a domestic flight. The biggest aircraft on any TT route on QF is a 767, which in terms of entertainment and comfort is a generation behind NZ's 767s and even A320s.

I'm flying SYD-AKL-VLI-AKL-SYD, all on A320s, in January and am looking forward to all the flights due to NZ's upgrading of the A320.


User currently offlineKent350787 From Australia, joined May 2008, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5809 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 14):
What, those being all flights to Perth and Darwin?

Broome as well, occasionally.  Smile

I'm not defending QF compared to its opposition products, just making the point that there are Oz state/territory capitals further from SYD/MEL/BNE than NZ destinations

Kent


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5789 times:



Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 16):
I'm not defending QF compared to its opposition products, just making the point that there are Oz state/territory capitals further from SYD/MEL/BNE than NZ destinations

I know, but I do think that QF have got the logic wrong in this case. Many people believe that international flights should be treated differently - NZ has done a lot to differentiate its international service from its domestic one and so their product over the Tasman has never been better and QF is about a year and a half behind in updating their product.



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5773 times:
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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17):
I know, but I do think that QF have got the logic wrong in this case. Many people believe that international flights should be treated differently - NZ has done a lot to differentiate its international service from its domestic one and so their product over the Tasman has never been better and QF is about a year and a half behind in updating their product.

I think that this is at least partly a reflection of the fact that the Tasman is always going to be more important to NZ than to QF . NZ needs feed from 20 million Australians a lot more than QF needs feed from 4 million kiwis . NZ needs to have a good product on the Tasman far more than QF does , and at a time when every carrier is looking to save money it is not surprising ( to me anyway ) that QF does not spend as much money or effort proportionately as NZ in this market .



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User currently offlinePewpew320 From New Zealand, joined Mar 2009, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5704 times:

Thanks for the information guys!

I actually booked a friend tickets on QF from CHC - SYD for late July and I just thought i'd check the information about the service.

I would have booked NZ or EK but QF were alot cheaper so that made sense Big grin


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6456 posts, RR: 38
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5703 times:



Quoting Pewpew320 (Reply 19):

At least the scenery will be good when leaving/approaching CHC on a fine day..!



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