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User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 965 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5428 times:

I am going from ORD to DCA in September the ticket price is twice as expensive as MKE-DCA via ORD. Can I buy that ticket and simply start my trip from ORD?

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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5429 times:

No, IIRC you are required to be checked in and on board each flight in succession or the remaining part of your itinerary will be canceled.

[Edited 2009-08-18 15:17:03]


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User currently offlineJER757 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5386 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
No, IIRC you are required to be checked in and on board each flight in succession or the remaining part of your itinerary will be canceled.

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This is known at 'hidden city ticketing' and it is expressly forbidden in airline T&Cs.

Take for example SFO-DEN-JFK (Just theoretically - I have no idea whether its possible to through check on these routes, or if they even exist!).

Remember most airlines require you to travel all sectors of an itinerary for the next one to be valid, except in times of disruption obviously.

Therefore you have to board the aircraft in SFO, traveling DEN-JFK is not possible as missing the SFO-DEN sector will nullify the remainder of the itinerary (DEN-JFK).

It is possible to travel SFO-DEN and get off there, but if you have a return ticket it will be invalid and you won't be able to fly. It's relatively safe on a one way ticket, but don't make a habit of it or the airline will be onto you!



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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

Honestly it depends on the airline and the airport. If you're checking bags, the answer is almost always no, as they aren't allowed to short-check bags.

But if not, the agent may let you. They'd have to delete the segments you aren't taking so the tickets don't zero out, but I've seen it done before.


User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5253 times:

Thanks. I thought that the primary reason why this would not be allowed is security...anyways it is funny how they price those tickets...

User currently offlineYYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5245 times:



Quoting WROORD (Reply 4):
I thought that the primary reason why this would not be allowed is security

Why would security care, you walk up, present a boarding pass for ORD-DCA, yoou go through the checkpoint.

Jason



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User currently offlineJetplaner From Canada, joined Mar 2008, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5239 times:



Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 5):
Why would security care, you walk up, present a boarding pass for ORD-DCA, yoou go through the checkpoint.

Because of an incident such as Air India Flight 182. A passenger checked in for a CP Air flight to Toronto, later to board Air India flight 182, YYZ-YMX-LHR. He had his bag checked through onto the Air India flight, despite refusal from the gate agent because he was not confirmed for the Air India flight yet. The passenger never boarded the CP Air flight, and his bag was checked through onto the Air India flight. Air India 182 exploded in over the Atlantic in Irish Airspace, with no survivors. One way of preventing this is: not allowing a bag to leave on a plane without the passenger. But I wonder about delays and such where the passenger leaves before the bag, or vice-versa, and they are on different flights?

-Jetplaner


User currently offlineMdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 386 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

May be you can try looking up ORD-DCA-xxx and drop off in the middle? Just my two cents.

User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6365 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5195 times:



Quoting Jetplaner (Reply 6):
But I wonder about delays and such where the passenger leaves before the bag, or vice-versa, and they are on different flights?

As this is an unplanned scenario and the passenger would obviously rather be WITH the bag, it's looked at quite differently. For example, last week I was confirmed on a flight ORD-BNA that was cxl'd due to weather, but they could get me on ORD-HSV and then I would rent a car. My bag was obviously still on its way to BNA, and got there the next morning on a flight without me. No biggy security wise, because I was confirmed on the original flight that the bag was destined for and the only reason I was not on it was beyond my control.


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5191 times:

But it still doesnt make sense that 2 flights are cheaper then 1...flying from the same airport to the same airport.

User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5186 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 9):
But it still doesnt make sense that 2 flights are cheaper then 1...flying from the same airport to the same airport.

It doesn't make sense at all, it's pretty dumb IMO.

For example, BDL-PHL is $500+ while BDL-PHL-anywhere in Florida will be somewhere around 300 (and that's return fare). So you end op with more legs spending lot more fuel, more employees, etc, but it costs less. And then they wonder why they're losing money.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5173 times:
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I once found this out the hard way.

I was ticketed JNB-ZRH-DUS-ZRH-JNB.

I went to visit a friend in Freiburg and took the train to Düsseldorf instead of flying. When I checked in for my return flight at DUS I was told there was no reservation. Because I didn't fly ZRH-DUS the system automatically cancelled everything, so I was on standby for the return leg.



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User currently offlineHAMAD From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5100 times:

doing it that way is considered as using flight coupons out of sequence, which in the terms and conditions of the ticket means that your reservation is subject to cancellation.


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User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1819 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5077 times:



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 10):
For example, BDL-PHL is $500+ while BDL-PHL-anywhere in Florida will be somewhere around 300 (and that's return fare). So you end op with more legs spending lot more fuel, more employees, etc, but it costs less. And then they wonder why they're losing money.

Very dumb, but probably the demand between BDL and PHL is much larger then the demand between BDL and Florida (which is probably flown by tourists) unlike the PHL which has business links.


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