Dairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 237 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7558 times:
I was just reading about CDG-PPT in the other forum and that some of you consider this one as a domestic flight (going down in LAX though). Brought me to the question if CDG-PPT is the world longest domestic flight, from the pov in distance and time?!
What other long domestic flights like this can you name? I m very interested in this. Thank you in advance.
Rwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1988 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 7498 times:
If you stayed over a single landmass, it would almost have to be Russian. There are flights scheduled between, for example, St. Petersburg and Vladivostok, although I don't know if they're non-stop. A bit shorter would be VVO to Moscow (cheap too - Travelocity is listing a non-stop round-trip from VVO to SVO in December* at $273!), which still would beat anything possible over a single landmass in any other country.
More complex would be something like EWR-HNL. That's longer than VVO-SVO, and is certainly domestic (and Continental is flying a non-stop). Then there's the question about how to treat dependencies (for example, would a flight from London to the Falkands be domestic or not - not that such a thing appears to be available).
*Of course why anyone would want to be in either Moscow or Vladivostok in December is beyond me.
Western727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 579 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7460 times:
The longest nonstop domestic I can think of right off the top of my head is CO's EWR-HNL at 4,962 miles flown on a 764ER.
Quoting Rwessel (Reply 2): Then there's the question about how to treat dependencies (for example, would a flight from London to the Falkands be domestic or not - not that such a thing appears to be available).
Western727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 579 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7255 times:
Western727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 579 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7099 times:
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9): If you did count dependencies, and thus IAH-GUM, I'm pretty sure CDG-PPT would still be longer.
Indeed...according to gc.kls2.com the distances are:
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21460 posts, RR: 24 Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6855 times:
Quoting Western727 (Reply 10): Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
If you did count dependencies, and thus IAH-GUM, I'm pretty sure CDG-PPT would still be longer.
Indeed...according to gc.kls2.com the distances are:
IAH-HNL 3904m
HNL-GUM 3801m
Total 7705m
CDG-LAX 5669m
LAX-PPT 4095m
Total 9765m
No, I think the longest direct flight (with intermediate stops), counting territories and dependencies, would then be Air Austral's twice-weekly 777-200ER service between Paris and Noumea, New Caledonia with stops at Reunion (their home base) and Sydney. That's about 30% further than CDG-LAX-PPT.
CDG-RUN 5798mi
RUN-SYD 5741mi
SYD-NOU 1230mi
Total 12780mi
That must also be one of the longest direct flights in elapsed time, 27 hr. 50 min. eastbound and 30 hr. 30 min. westbound.
According to the European Unions official website, Reunion is not included as part of the EU – nor governed by its laws or regulations – however it is governed by France and its domestic laws etc.
It’s the same as the Falkland Islands are not part of the EU...
KimberlyRJ
Ps. I don’t understand why they are not, I am just going by the official website/s...
AlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1791 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 6288 times:
Quoting Western727 (Reply 8): So, looks like CDG-RUN wins out (it's nonstop too)...unless someone else can top that. Smile
Sometimes the flight goes via Mayotte, which is a French dependency but not part of France.
Paris - Cayenne (in French Guiana) is also a very long domestic flight (4416). Same goes for Paris - Guadaloupe and Martinique.
Soon (maybe months or years...) the island of Bonair would be integrated as a part of Netherlands, which would make Amsterdam - Bonair also a very long flight (4844 mi)
Baexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 653 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6183 times:
Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 17): Don't forget the twice weekly flight from BZZ to MPN (6834 nm) operated with Lockheed L10 Tristar or Boeing 767 wet-leased from Flyglobespan.
Do you need a passport to travel from the UK to the Falkands?
AlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1791 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6146 times:
Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 19): Do you need a passport to travel from the UK to the Falkands?
Yes, because Falklands are not in the same customs zone as UK (only UK, Isle of Man and Channel Islands are). I am not sure if military does a passport check-up. You also have to have a special permission from the gov´t.
You also have a passport check between France and Reunion. There is no passport control between CPH and Nuuk, and also between Russian east and west.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21460 posts, RR: 24 Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 6129 times:
Quoting AlexEU (Reply 20): There is no passport control between CPH and Nuuk,
You probably mean Kangerlussuaq (SFJ), formerly Sondre Stromfjord, which is the destination of flights from CPH to Greenland. The 3100 ft. runway at Greenland's capital, Nuuk (GOH), is too short for jets. Air Greenland Dash 7s operate the 172 nm sector SFJ-GOH, connecting with their A332 flights to/from CPH.
AlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1791 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6115 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21): You probably mean Kangerlussuaq (SFJ), formerly Sondre Stromfjord, which is the destination of flights from CPH to Greenland. The 3100 ft. runway at Greenland's capital, Nuuk (GOH), is too short for jets. Air Greenland Dash 7s operate the 172 nm sector SFJ-GOH, connecting with their A332 flights to/from CPH.
Yep, thanks for correcting me.
However I forgot to say that Greenland is an overseas territory of Denmark, rather then an integral part, thus we cant consider CPH-SFJ to be a domestic flight.