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What Is The Longest Domestic Flight In The World?  
User currently offlineDairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 240 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11641 times:

I was just reading about CDG-PPT in the other forum and that some of you consider this one as a domestic flight (going down in LAX though). Brought me to the question if CDG-PPT is the world longest domestic flight, from the pov in distance and time?!

What other long domestic flights like this can you name? I m very interested in this. Thank you in advance.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 11587 times:

Flight #2208 [IL96] Moscow - Sakhalin.[East coast].
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User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2338 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11581 times:
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If you stayed over a single landmass, it would almost have to be Russian. There are flights scheduled between, for example, St. Petersburg and Vladivostok, although I don't know if they're non-stop. A bit shorter would be VVO to Moscow (cheap too - Travelocity is listing a non-stop round-trip from VVO to SVO in December* at $273!), which still would beat anything possible over a single landmass in any other country.

More complex would be something like EWR-HNL. That's longer than VVO-SVO, and is certainly domestic (and Continental is flying a non-stop). Then there's the question about how to treat dependencies (for example, would a flight from London to the Falkands be domestic or not - not that such a thing appears to be available).


*Of course why anyone would want to be in either Moscow or Vladivostok in December is beyond me.  duck 


User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11543 times:

The longest nonstop domestic I can think of right off the top of my head is CO's EWR-HNL at 4,962 miles flown on a 764ER.


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User currently offlineRwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2338 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11540 times:
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Just to put some numbers on it (from Great Circle Mapper):


EWR (40°41'33"N 74°10'07"W) HNL (21°19'07"N 157°55'21"W) 282° (W) 4312 nm
UUS (46°53'19"N 142°43'03"E) SVO (55°58'22"N 37°24'53"E) 321° (NW) 3597 nm
VVO (43°23'56"N 132°08'53"E) SVO (55°58'22"N 37°24'53"E) 318° (NW) 3468 nm


User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 909 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11393 times:

Air France and Air Austral serve flights between Paris and Réunion, which should be around 10 000 kilometres. Réunion is also the southern- and easternmost point of the EU, just off the coast of Madagascar.

[Edited 2009-10-30 20:15:24]

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17014 posts, RR: 67
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 11363 times:

As OV735 saysI think Paris-Réunion takes the prize. CDG-RUN is 5809 nm in the great circle route. There are direct flights.

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Quoting Rwessel (Reply 2):
Then there's the question about how to treat dependencies (for example, would a flight from London to the Falkands be domestic or not - not that such a thing appears to be available).

I think you would have to divide into two categories. Hawaii and Réunion are fully part of their respective countries, with the same conditions as other parts of the country. A place like Puerto Rico, on the other hand, is a dependency and thus different.



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User currently offlineDrfix2fly From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11355 times:

how about Continental with Houston to Guam one stop in Hawaii ?

User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 11338 times:



Quoting Drfix2fly (Reply 7):
Houston to Guam one stop in Hawaii

With the dependency argument pointed out by others, I personally wouldn't count the GUM flight.

So, looks like CDG-RUN wins out (it's nonstop too)...unless someone else can top that.  Smile



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17014 posts, RR: 67
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 11302 times:

If you did count dependencies, and thus IAH-GUM, I'm pretty sure CDG-PPT would still be longer.


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User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11182 times:



Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
If you did count dependencies, and thus IAH-GUM, I'm pretty sure CDG-PPT would still be longer.

Indeed...according to gc.kls2.com the distances are:

IAH-HNL 3904m
HNL-GUM 3801m
Total 7705m

CDG-LAX 5669m
LAX-PPT 4095m
Total 9765m



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10938 times:



Quoting Western727 (Reply 10):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
If you did count dependencies, and thus IAH-GUM, I'm pretty sure CDG-PPT would still be longer.

Indeed...according to gc.kls2.com the distances are:

IAH-HNL 3904m
HNL-GUM 3801m
Total 7705m

CDG-LAX 5669m
LAX-PPT 4095m
Total 9765m

No, I think the longest direct flight (with intermediate stops), counting territories and dependencies, would then be Air Austral's twice-weekly 777-200ER service between Paris and Noumea, New Caledonia with stops at Reunion (their home base) and Sydney. That's about 30% further than CDG-LAX-PPT.

CDG-RUN 5798mi
RUN-SYD 5741mi
SYD-NOU 1230mi
Total 12780mi

That must also be one of the longest direct flights in elapsed time, 27 hr. 50 min. eastbound and 30 hr. 30 min. westbound.


User currently offlineAcey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1031 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10862 times:

Both EWR and ORD are longer to HNL than from IAH.


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User currently offlineKimberlyrj From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10711 times:



Quoting OV735 (Reply 5):
Réunion is also the southern- and easternmost point of the EU, just off the coast of Madagasca

According to the European Unions official website, Reunion is not included as part of the EU – nor governed by its laws or regulations – however it is governed by France and its domestic laws etc.

It’s the same as the Falkland Islands are not part of the EU...

KimberlyRJ

Ps. I don’t understand why they are not, I am just going by the official website/s...


User currently offlinePagophilus From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10617 times:

Reunion is a territory of the EU and is part of the Eurozone.

See http://reunion2008.eu/pages/en/en-conf-outre-mer.html


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17014 posts, RR: 67
Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10606 times:

Reunion would indeed be part of the EU since it is just as much a part of France as Paris.


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User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10371 times:



Quoting Western727 (Reply 8):
So, looks like CDG-RUN wins out (it's nonstop too)...unless someone else can top that. Smile

Sometimes the flight goes via Mayotte, which is a French dependency but not part of France.
Paris - Cayenne (in French Guiana) is also a very long domestic flight (4416). Same goes for Paris - Guadaloupe and Martinique.

Soon (maybe months or years...) the island of Bonair would be integrated as a part of Netherlands, which would make Amsterdam - Bonair also a very long flight (4844 mi)

Moscow - Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky is 4224.


User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10343 times:
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Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):
As OV735 saysI think Paris-Réunion takes the prize. CDG-RUN is 5809 nm in the great circle route. There are direct flights.

Don't forget the twice weekly flight from BZZ to MPN (6834 nm) operated with Lockheed L10 Tristar or Boeing 767 wet-leased from Flyglobespan.

Is not a direct flight due a short stop in Ascension Island.

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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10337 times:



Quoting OV735 (Reply 5):
Air France and Air Austral serve flights between Paris and Réunion, which should be around 10 000 kilometres. Réunion is also the southern- and easternmost point of the EU, just off the coast of Madagascar.

How about Air France: Paris - Papeete, Tahiti ( French Polynesia )


User currently offlineBaexecutive From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10266 times:



Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 17):
Don't forget the twice weekly flight from BZZ to MPN (6834 nm) operated with Lockheed L10 Tristar or Boeing 767 wet-leased from Flyglobespan.

Do you need a passport to travel from the UK to the Falkands?


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10229 times:

Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 19):
Do you need a passport to travel from the UK to the Falkands?

Yes, because Falklands are not in the same customs zone as UK (only UK, Isle of Man and Channel Islands are). I am not sure if military does a passport check-up. You also have to have a special permission from the gov´t.

You also have a passport check between France and Reunion. There is no passport control between CPH and Nuuk, and also between Russian east and west.

[Edited 2009-11-06 17:32:27 by alexEU]

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10212 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 20):
There is no passport control between CPH and Nuuk,

You probably mean Kangerlussuaq (SFJ), formerly Sondre Stromfjord, which is the destination of flights from CPH to Greenland. The 3100 ft. runway at Greenland's capital, Nuuk (GOH), is too short for jets. Air Greenland Dash 7s operate the 172 nm sector SFJ-GOH, connecting with their A332 flights to/from CPH.


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10198 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21):
You probably mean Kangerlussuaq (SFJ), formerly Sondre Stromfjord, which is the destination of flights from CPH to Greenland. The 3100 ft. runway at Greenland's capital, Nuuk (GOH), is too short for jets. Air Greenland Dash 7s operate the 172 nm sector SFJ-GOH, connecting with their A332 flights to/from CPH.

Yep, thanks for correcting me.
However I forgot to say that Greenland is an overseas territory of Denmark, rather then an integral part, thus we cant consider CPH-SFJ to be a domestic flight.


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