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User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3032 times:

Hi,

I will be travelling from MEL to BNE, so I would like to hear you opinions on:
1. Whether Jetstar (from Avalon) is better then Virgin Blue? Jetstar is slightly cheaper, but I prefer B737 over A320.
2. Which aircraft is used by Virgin Blue on that route?
Qantas is probably much better then both, however it is more expensive.

Did anyone try the train?

Regards, Alex

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User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3033 times:

Fly Virgin Blue; going to Avalon will just cost you more money.

Virgin Blue use a mixture of 737-700 and 737-800s.



Why fly non stop when you can connect
User currently offlineBNEFlyer From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3030 times:

Hi Alex

I have done this route many many times, majority of those flights on DJ (Virgin Blue), a couple on QF and never on Jetstar.

Unless you are doing the Great Ocean Road or visiting Geelong/Eastern Victoria or would like to experience abysmal comfort and service, you don't want to be flying Jetstar. The trip from Avalon to Melbourne CBD is around 1 1/2 hours on the transfer bus.

I would definitely fly Virgin Blue. Tullamarine is easy to get to from the CBD via taxi or bus from Southern Cross Station, there is a multitude of food/beverage and retail outlets throughout the whole airport and something else that sets Tulla (and DJ) apart from Avalon and JQ is the use of aerobridges and that DJ has 'The Lounge'.

DJ usually use a 737-700 on the route with the occassional -800. Honestly there isn't a great deal of difference between DJ and QF unless you fly in the afternoon on weekdays and like a drink (as there is a free bar on CityFlyer flights on QF) or collect OneWorld FF points.

If you really wanted to try JQ you could fly MEL-OOL and you'd probably get on one of their new A321's, but then you have at least a 1 1/2 transit from OOL to Brisbane CBD via bus and train.

You can always get the Countrylink XPT from Melbourne to Brisbane, but you have to transit Sydney Central Station and it takes a very long time and is more expensive than flying!

Enjoy your trip, hope you enjoy Melbourne and Brisbane, my two favourite Australian cities  Big grin

I'm happy to answer any other questions you have as well.

Nick.


User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3025 times:

Hi,
Thanks for replies !

Quoting BNE (Reply 1):
Fly Virgin Blue; going to Avalon will just cost you more money.

Looks like I forgot that Australia has large distances! Never been to AUS before.

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 2):
Unless you are doing the Great Ocean Road or visiting Geelong/Eastern Victoria or would like to experience abysmal comfort and service, you don't want to be flying Jetstar. The trip from Avalon to Melbourne CBD is around 1 1/2 hours on the transfer bus.

Are there any interesting things to see between MEL and Avalon? The thing is that I like ´´collecting´´ more airports...which is the reason why I am interested in Avalon.

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 2):
DJ usually use a 737-700 on the route with the occassional -800

I prefer both Boeings over JQ A320! The price difference is 12 EUR. As you said, these 12 EUR I would probably spend on transport to Avalon if I take JQ.

Is there free food / drinks on AUS domestic? I would also like to fly Qantaslink B717, but looks like there are no options for now, as I don´t want to go to Perth of Alice Springs.

Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 2):
If you really wanted to try JQ you could fly MEL-OOL

Actually, I will fly OOL-KUL with AirAsia X after.

Alex


User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3016 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 3):
Are there any interesting things to see between MEL and Avalon? The thing is that I like ´´collecting´´ more airports...which is the reason why I am interested in Avalon.

There is a big open range zoo at Werribee but other then that no, there is a freeway and a couple of the more industrial suburbs of Melbourne and that is it.



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 3):
Is there free food / drinks on AUS domestic? I would also like to fly Qantaslink B717, but looks like there are no options for now, as I don´t want to go to Perth of Alice Springs.

QF Yes on MEL/BNE you get a meal at meal times and a snack in between meal times you also get complimentry drinks although at certain times alcohol is available for purchase.

DJ/JQ/TT No it's all but on board and very expensive for what you get too.

As for the 717 unless you plan on visiting either PER, DRW or ASP you're out of luck.

Forgot the train as you have to travel though and transit at Sydney which is out of the way and the train is very slow and uncomfortable compared to European standards.

If you interested in flying in out of as many airports as possible you also may want to consider flying MEL-MCY. MCY is about 110 km north of Brisbane however unless your hiring a car I wouldn't recommend it as the nearest train station to MCY is Nambour which is a good $30AUD taxi ride. and the local bus network is poor DJ, JQ and TT all fly MEL-MCY.




Vhq.



"There you go ladies and gentleman we're through Mach 1 the speed of sound no bumps no bangs... CONCORDE"
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2955 times:

Is it worth giving 10 AUD (or even 25) to fly on Virgin Blue over Jetstar?

User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2953 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 5):
Is it worth giving 10 AUD (or even 25) to fly on Virgin Blue over Jetstar?

If that $10-25 means flying out of Tullamarine instead of Avalon then yes.


Personally I'd pay the 10-25 extra for DJ even if JQ also flew MEL-BNE


Vhq.



"There you go ladies and gentleman we're through Mach 1 the speed of sound no bumps no bangs... CONCORDE"
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2951 times:



Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 6):
Personally I'd pay the 10-25 extra for DJ even if JQ also flew MEL-BNE

But that is what I am interested in. Why is DJ considered better then JQ if they are both low-cost and have similar services for a 2 hours flight?

Regards, Alex


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2899 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 7):
But that is what I am interested in. Why is DJ considered better then JQ if they are both low-cost and have similar services for a 2 hours flight?

Don't know how much it applies to Aussie operations but surely with NZ operations I found that DJ is much friendlier, OTP is much better and small things like the check-in deadline and other things like that are a bit less stringent on DJ.



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2897 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 3):
Are there any interesting things to see between MEL and Avalon? The thing is that I like ´´collecting´´ more airports...which is the reason why I am interested in Avalon.

No. A freeway and industrial buildings. You could be anywhere in the world.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 5):
Is it worth giving 10 AUD (or even 25) to fly on Virgin Blue over Jetstar?

Don't know how tall you are. If you're over 5'10" then definitely.

Quoting AlexEU (Reply 7):
But that is what I am interested in. Why is DJ considered better then JQ if they are both low-cost and have similar services for a 2 hours flight?

Because the pitch on JQ is about 29". Other than that they are fine. DJ is better IMO, but not by much.



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

Never flown Jetstar, but I did the MEL-BNE route on Virgin Blue a few months ago and cannot say enough good things about it. Flights on time, planes clean and comfortable, crew incredibly friendly and relaxed, seatback IFE nice even if just for the map (since I didn't feel like paying for the service). Sure food and drinks cost but I had a delicious cheese and cracker spread and soda for a decent price. All in all it was a nice, relaxing Friday evening flight after a long, nasty week of work in Melbourne. I will fly Virgin Blue again without a doubt.

User currently offlineBNEFlyer From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2871 times:

Just go Virgin Blue... flew back to BNE from SYD this morning, 2nd BNE flight at 6:30AM. Was in the check in line before the terminal actually 'opened' (air con was off and roller door to security was closed).

The guest team member that checked my parents and I in was very friendly, complimented my mother on her choice of luggage and her dress sense and then advised us that our Velocity numbers were added to the booking and wished us a pleasant flight.

Upon boarding (which was completed 6 minutes early) the crew were their usual friendly and cheery selves. I was welcomed on board 'Hello Mr BNEFlyer, welcome back. Your seat is 11Delta on the left hand side, enjoy your flight'. Service was non obtrusive and swift. When we landed (10 minutes early) we received a lovely 'welcome home or safe onward journey' by the purser. Our bags were on the belt when we walked down to arrivals.

Was on a 737-700 which has about an Inch less leg room than the -800 but was still comfortable enough for the 1h10m flight (and i'm 6'2). Moving map does the job but its only $4.90 for the Live2Air.

I have never been able to fault DJ. JQ is like Tiger, DJ is like Qantas, if you want a Black/White comparison of Aussie domestic airlines.

That's why i'm looking forward to my day return BNE-SYD this Saturday, and that i'll be flying on my first E-Jet!

Nick.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2848 times:



Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 11):
That's why i'm looking forward to my day return BNE-SYD this Saturday, and that i'll be flying on my first E-Jet!

How can you tell?



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

Hi,

Thanks for replies once again.

I have booked Virgin Blue flight! How do I know if it is going to be B737-700, -800 or E-jet?

Hopefully I will get some Skywards Emirates miles, even though I didn´t present my FFP at the booking.

Alex


User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 802 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

You dont. You turn up at the airport and see what plane you will be on. They dont tell you in advance.

User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 802 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2836 times:



Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 11):
JQ is like Tiger

Oh what a load of rubbish. JQ and DJ are pretty much similar. JQ is nothing like tiger.


User currently offlineBNEFlyer From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2821 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 12):
How can you tell?

Well I cheat because I have a friend that works for DJ, but you can also check www.seatcounter.com and that will usually tell you if you're on a 737 or EJet. They sometimes don't differentiate between 737 variants though.

Quoting Joffie (Reply 15):
Oh what a load of rubbish. JQ and DJ are pretty much similar. JQ is nothing like tiger.

To be fair I have never flown JQ in Australia or Tiger, i'm just going from what friends have told me and what I read on A.Net and the media...


User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2812 times:

As far as I am concerned, and I travel a lot

1. Qantas (fantastic)
2, Virgin Blue (best value there is)
3. Jetstar ( fairly average)
4 Tiger (never ever again)



Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently offlineVhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

With the DJ website go to Bookings tab and then click timetables there it will tell you if your on a E70, E90 or a 737. All Virgin Blue 737 flights are listed as 73G which is actually a -700 wo/ winglets which DJ don't have anymore so you'll either be on a -700 or a -800. Pacific Blue and Poly Blue flights are listed as 73H (-800 w/ winglets) and for those flight you are guaranteed a -800 as that's all they fly (for now). DJ briefly used to distinguish the -700/-800 from each over about 2 years ago.

Having said that the 737 schedule isn't concrete it they do alternate between the -700 and -800 according to demand I've previously been on flights where 99% of the the time a -800 does that particular flight and on the day of travel it will be -700 due to lighter loads.


Vhq



"There you go ladies and gentleman we're through Mach 1 the speed of sound no bumps no bangs... CONCORDE"
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2792 times:



Quoting BNEFlyer (Reply 16):



Quoting Vhqpa (Reply 18):

Great, thanks for that! I'll be looking forward to both the E170 and E190 later this month!

Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 17):

I'll see if my thoughts are like yours in the upcoming trip reports - I think they will be.



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2782 times:

The person that was responsible for the Australian flights, changed my flights to Jetstar without my permission....Looks like I´ll be flying Airbus again!! But at the end of the day, the important thing is to see the place, rather then taste a new aircraft.

User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6338 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2773 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 20):
But at the end of the day, the important thing is to see the place, rather then taste a new aircraft.

Haha, the flight is just as important  Wink



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2759 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 21):
Haha, the flight is just as important Wink

Yes, and that is why I changed it to Virgin Blue, and it is going to be B737-700 according to seat counter  Wink


User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1896 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Fly this last week when I was visiting Australia.

Definitely didn't like Virgin Blue at all (on that sector or BNE-SYD).
Everyone has a tv in front of them screaming to SWIPE YOUR CREDIT CARD.

Flights were mostly on time, but man, Jetstar seemed a lot more civilized on the SYD-MEL.

--
Now, you would definetly not want to fly out of Avalon. The Skybus thing from downtown to MEL was super easy and leaves every 10 minutes, which was great.



They're not handing trophies out today
User currently offlineHoppe777 From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2553 times:

Virgin in my opinion is best for MEL-BNE although while my flight with Qantas wasnt by any means bad, i prefer the service on Virgin (they just seem to be a little more enthusiastic) and also the option to buy what snack you want instead of getting a cheese roll, not that on a 2 hour flight its that important.


Sometime in easter 10 .... yet to book :)
25 Pewpew320 : I agree, I would never fly Virgin Blue again, perhaps it was just the one flight I went on but the staff were rude and I also hated the TV screen in
26 AlexEU : Are drinks free? Could you at least watch the airshow (aircraft moving map) for free?
27 Vhqpa : Unless you are flying Premium Economy refreshments need to be purchased. Regarding the IFE system (Live2air) you have free access to Flight Track how
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