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ZED Fare Question  
User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 14
Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

Hi

I wanted to have a clarification on ZED fare routing and applicable fare:

I wish to take a ticket Delhi - JFK ZED ticket. However the carrier that plan to take has a stop in DXB where I need to change planes - no stopover, but only a transit halt.

In case of such a routing will the mileage/fare applicable be for sector Delhi - JFK or Delhi - XDubai - JFK? In other words will I have to pay separately for Delhi - Dubai and separately for Dubai - JFK or just the Delhi - JFK through fare (based on direct routing mileage).

Appreciate your comments and views.

Thanks and best regards

Vimanav


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User currently offlineEBBRbased From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

You have to book your ZED tickets separately... also (worse case scenario) - if you get stranded in DXB, you won't have a ZED ticket left to continue your journey as they will keep the coupon of your DEL-JFK ticket in DEL.

EBBRbased


User currently offlineVikingA346 From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5162 times:

Unless the flight that you are taking has the SAME FLIGHT NUMBER, then you have to buy two separate tickets. I flew LAX-KUL (transit TPE) but only had to buy LAX-KUL because the flight kept the same flight number and was the same plane through, just had to get off while they refueled in TPE.

I wouldn't imagine Emirates to keep the same flight # through, so you'd probably have to buy two separate tickets and calculate the ZED fare based on the DEL-DXB and then DXB-JFK.

Why don't you just get on the AI 77L nonstop? cheaper...



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User currently offlineEBBRbased From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5149 times:



Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 2):
I flew LAX-KUL (transit TPE) but only had to buy LAX-KUL because the flight kept the same flight number and was the same plane through, just had to get off while they refueled in TPE.

It also depends on whether the carrier has 5th freedom rights for the whole journey (f.i. if the airline in your case could sell TPE-KUL, you could still get offloaded if the flight is overbooked out of TPE).


User currently offlineNeder99 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4900 times:

Your airline's staff travel department will be able to give you accurate and up-to-date information about this, as they will no doubt issue the ticket.

User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9029 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4876 times:



Quoting Vimanav (Thread starter):

In case of such a routing will the mileage/fare applicable be for sector Delhi - JFK or Delhi - XDubai - JFK? In other words will I have to pay separately for Delhi - Dubai and separately for Dubai - JFK or just the Delhi - JFK through fare (based on direct routing mileage).

I would think you would want to have to tickets, one for each zone in-case you get offloaded. Always have plan b and c. You should be able to get a refund on unused ZED tickets.

If you do end up using two coupons, talk to your staff travel office about the procedures on getting the airport taxes back for the transit.

Quoting EBBRbased (Reply 1):
if you get stranded in DXB, you won't have a ZED ticket left to continue your journey as they will keep the coupon of your DEL-JFK ticket in DEL.

That would be my concern.

Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 2):
Unless the flight that you are taking has the SAME FLIGHT NUMBER, then you have to buy two separate tickets.

That is not always the case, I know some airlines that operate triangular routes where the flight number changes, and you can have one ticket all the way. I would always have the two tickets anyway, been offloaded more than once.

Quoting Neder99 (Reply 4):
Your airline's staff travel department will be able to give you accurate and up-to-date information about this, as they will no doubt issue the ticket.

Good advice.



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User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4836 times:
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I flew LHR-GRU-EZE with BA last month. It's the same flight number the whole way.
So I only needed to buy one flight coupon: LHR-EZE.

Load permitting of course, as I knew beforehand that the GRU-EZE was wide open (a lucky day for me as BA has 5th freedom on the route and it's often quite packed), so the chances I would have been bumped out was about at zero.

Should I have been bumped out of the flight... I would have been in trouble with no GRU-EZE coupon in back-up.



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4701 times:



Quoting Zeke (Reply 5):
I would always have the two tickets anyway, been offloaded more than once.

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Wise advice. I always do the same.

Another thing to keep in mind is to look up all the airlines that serve the particular routes you are flying, and know the pass agreements your airline has with those airlines. ZED fares are interchangable between airlines for the same airport pairs as long as you airline's agreements are the same with both carriers.



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4678 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4686 times:



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 7):
ZED fares are interchangable between airlines for the same airport pairs

Technically not just that, they are interchangable between airlines for routes in the same or lower zone when departing from the same airport (and even that could be changed, but you'd need to work out the taxes), although it can take quite some convincing.

In that way I've flown DOK-VIE on KBP-VIE tickets (although that is supposedly a higher zone) and NRT-CPH-AMS on NRT-CDG-AMS tickets.... with SK/KL instead of AF/KL....



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4671 times:



Quoting JRadier (Reply 8):
Technically not just that, they are interchangable between airlines for routes in the same or lower zone when departing from the same airport (and even that could be changed, but you'd need to work out the taxes), although it can take quite some convincing.

Quite true, though I've never tried a different routing myself. The most I've done is change airlines but use the same routing.



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4678 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4658 times:



Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 9):
Quite true, though I've never tried a different routing myself.

It can be quite a tedious process, the DOK-VIE took 3 stations and around 4 days to change it  Wink



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