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1st Time Non-Rev On UAL. Help!  
User currently offlineFoppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 855 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7205 times:

It's my first time doing non-rev with UAL's companion pass (from a friend who is UAL's employee). The things is, I have a few questions but the certain friend is in the air now so I'm wondering if any UAL employee or people who are familiar with the system can answer a few questions...

I believe I have the Space Available PNR. My questions are...

1. The load status is yellow.   less than 25% but greater than 5% authorized space. What are my chances of getting on the flights?

2. When should I arrive at the airport to ensure better chances of getting on the flight?

3. What is a DM Card?

Thanks in advance for answering my questions. It wouldn't be so fun to be stuck in NRT.   

Edit: Just realized International flights can't check in on united.com.

[Edited 2009-12-07 20:13:16 by foppishbum]


I'm a Taiwanese-American living in NYC and LA.
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User currently offlinePWMRamper From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 643 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7198 times:

Get there 90 minutes prior.

As you're on a buddy pass, you'll probably be near the bottom of the list for Non-rev's, but as long as the flight isn't overbooked you should be okay...

And a DM card is a Departure Management card, basically a boarding pass without a seat assignment to get you through security.


Good luck and I hope you enjoy UA!


User currently offlineFoppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 855 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7155 times:



Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 1):

Thanks for the info!  Smile I'm sure I'll enjoy UABig grin I just never have flown them cross Pacific.

By the way, my friend mentioned dress code for non-rev J class travelers? I'm not sure if he were joking. Can anyone confirm that?  Smile

Thanks!



I'm a Taiwanese-American living in NYC and LA.
User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7152 times:



Quoting Foppishbum (Reply 2):
By the way, my friend mentioned dress code for non-rev J class travelers? I'm not sure if he were joking. Can anyone confirm that?  

He wasn't joking. Dress to impress.


User currently offlineFoppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 855 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7145 times:



Quoting TheGMan (Reply 3):
He wasn't joking. Dress to impress.

I see! Thank you!  Smile I wonder if polo shirt is ok...thinking about dress pants, shoes, and a plain white polo shirt for my trans Pacific flight.



I'm a Taiwanese-American living in NYC and LA.
User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7103 times:



Quoting Foppishbum (Reply 4):
I see! Thank you!   I wonder if polo shirt is ok...thinking about dress pants, shoes, and a plain white polo shirt for my trans Pacific flight.

That should be fine.


User currently offlineFoppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 855 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7074 times:



Quoting PWMRamper (Reply 1):
but as long as the flight isn't overbooked you should be okay...

Just checked the load status. The flight is overbooked in economy. I know buddy pass is lowest priority on standby but there's a total (in C) of 17 open seats after taking out non-revs and possible upgrades of all the overbooked ones in economy.  Sad (Crossing my fingers cus I'm party of one!!)

Quoting TheGMan (Reply 5):
That should be fine.

Thanks! Sounds good.  Smile



I'm a Taiwanese-American living in NYC and LA.
User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7053 times:



Quoting Foppishbum (Reply 6):
Just checked the load status. The flight is overbooked in economy. I know buddy pass is lowest priority on standby but there's a total (in C) of 17 open seats after taking out non-revs and possible upgrades of all the overbooked ones in economy.   (Crossing my fingers cus I'm party of one!!)

Getting on oversold flights is not impossible. I have managed it several times this year. Being a party of 1 certainly helps. Of course in my case I travel at the 3rd non-rev priority.


User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7041 times:



Quoting Foppishbum (Reply 2):
By the way, my friend mentioned dress code for non-rev J class travelers? I'm not sure if he were joking. Can anyone confirm that?  

Nope not joking and the outfit you described is just fine.

I hope that you appreciate that any employee who gives a friend a buddy pass is taking a leap of faith in the friend. An employee can lose all their travel benefits or face other disciplinary actions if a buddy misbehaves. I'm going to share with you the same lecture I would give my buddies. Realize as a buddy you have pretty much zero status or rights. If there is a cancellation, diversion or you get stranded somewhere you are responsible for your accommodations the airline owes you nothing. Don't pester the agents, give revenue passengers priority over your needs, even if an agent is belligerent or rude to you do not respond with any thing but courtesy. If there is a problem you should move away from the gate or ticket counter and discretely call your friend for help rather than get into an argument with a working employee. If a flight attendant asks you to move to accommodate a revenue passenger you do it without question and with a smile on your face. If they tell you they are all out of meals you smile and say that's ok, revenue pax have priority. Remember at all times your behavior reflects on the employee who gave you the pass.

Lecture over... I've had hit or miss luck traveling on a UAL BP when the flight is listed yellow. When are you actually taking the trip because things can change day off. Also where are you flying out of/to weather is always a problem to consider. It helps to be aware of travel alternatives so that if it looks like closer to departure you aren't going to make it you will be prepared.

I hope it will all go smoothly for you and that you will have a fun trip!


User currently offlineFoppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 855 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7023 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 8):

Thanks for the lecture. Big grin I have read over the brochure for non-revs over and over again and I understand the rules and courtesy. Of course I appreciate my friend's offering of the buddy pass!  Smile I'm not going to embarrass him.

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 8):
I've had hit or miss luck traveling on a UAL BP when the flight is listed yellow. When are you actually taking the trip because things can change day off. Also where are you flying out of/to weather is always a problem to consider. It helps to be aware of travel alternatives so that if it looks like closer to departure you aren't going to make it you will be prepared.

I'll be flying out of LAX (-NRT-TPE) so weather isn't really a problem here and I haven't heard horror stories for NRT and TPE. My main concern is still the load status.  Sad I'm not sure how things look as of right now since I don't have any experience traveling non-rev. The flight I'm taking out of LAX is a Tuesday flight (purposely listed on a mid-week flight since the flight had the lightest load and was once "green").  cry 

Quoting TheGMan (Reply 7):
Getting on oversold flights is not impossible.

Does listing in a different class of service influence the probability of getting on a flight? My friend listed me in C. Should I have listed in Y?



I'm a Taiwanese-American living in NYC and LA.
User currently offlineTheGMan From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7014 times:



Quoting Foppishbum (Reply 9):
Does listing in a different class of service influence the probability of getting on a flight? My friend listed me in C. Should I have listed in Y?

None. Listing in the highest possible class is better.
I know that for US if you list for upper level classes, that means you are ready for the greater restrictions on these (dress code, and a purchased upgrade). If there are no seats there you will automatically be pushed onto the lower class list.


User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6989 times:



Quoting Foppishbum (Reply 9):
I have read over the brochure for non-revs over and over again and I understand the rules and courtesy.

Good you'd be surprised how many do not or forget what they read/were told when things get hairy.

Quoting Foppishbum (Reply 9):
Does listing in a different class of service influence the probability of getting on a flight? My friend listed me in C. Should I have listed in Y?

It may have changed since the last time I used a UAL buddy pass but...the answer used to be yes it does influence your chances of getting on the flight. Trying to think of how to explain this.

UAL people correct me if my recollection is wrong....
Ok United fills non-rev seats in order by the cabin they listed for.

So if you have one seat left on the plane and it is in C and 2 people are on the non rev list. Person A is low priority but listed for C and person B is high priority but listed for Y person A gets the seat.

You will get bumped down if they run out of seats in the class you listed for but I'm pretty sure you go below everyone who originally listed for that class even if you have a higher pass priority.


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6101 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6981 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 11):

UAL people correct me if my recollection is wrong....

Sounds about right to me.

Also, there's the part where if person A is booked for C, and person B for Y, then if they upgrade coach passengers to C, and it fills up, then person A will be moved back to coach and take their proper seniority over (or under) person B.



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User currently offlineFoppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 855 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6971 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 11):



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 12):

Thanks for the clarification.  Smile Frankly, I don't care if I were in C or Y. I just want to get on the plane to Taiwan to see my mother! It has been five and half years since I visited Taiwan and a year and half since I last saw my mother! I think my visiting would be a pleasant Christmas present for her. Big grin

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed and checking load status every day.  bomb 



I'm a Taiwanese-American living in NYC and LA.
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