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Would You Have The Courage To Fly A First Flight?  
User currently offlineFamfflores From Brazil, joined Jun 2009, 65 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5548 times:

Dear a.netters, this is my first topic. After seeing the great first flight of the 787, I got curious: How many of you would agree to be there, inside that plane, for that first flight? My question has nothing to do with any issue with the 787, so you might just think of the first flight of the A380 or the soon to come first flight of the new 747. Really, would you feel like being there for the first flight? Think a little bit... yesterday, weather was not ideal, and you, inside that plane, taking off for the first time. How would you feel? Any fear at all or just plain fun?

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User currently offlineCAL764 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5533 times:

I would feel honored! Simply put..


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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5520 times:



Quoting CAL764 (Reply 1):
I would feel honored! Simply put..

Indeed, I don't believe anything has ever happened during a first flight. And if so, it's been a while. It would be a huge honour and thrill to be on the first flight of 787/748/a350 for example.



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User currently offlineCmk10 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 513 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5444 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
Indeed, I don't believe anything has ever happened during a first flight. And if so, it's been a while. It would be a huge honour and thrill to be on the first flight of 787/748/a350 for example.

Was the Air France A-320 crash a first flight?



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User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1029 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5438 times:

I believe the A380 pilots had parachutes for the first flight. Was that the case for the 787 as well?

User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5412 times:



Quoting Cmk10 (Reply 3):
Was the Air France A-320 crash a first flight?

No, not at all. It was an airshow demo, and crashed due to pilot error rather than an issue with the aircraft.


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13263 posts, RR: 100
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5399 times:
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Quoting CAL764 (Reply 1):
I would feel honored! Simply put..

Ditto. I haven't (yet) been on a first flight, but boy do I want to!

But several of our chief engineers love to fly. So at this point it is a question which one of them fly. (Recall minimum crews for first flight.)

Quoting Cmk10 (Reply 3):
Was the Air France A-320 crash a first flight?

No. That was in commercial service.  Sad It added a new test point for all fly by wire aircraft.

Disclaimer: I do not work for Boeing and have nothing to do with 787 flight testing. But I would LOVE to be on a first flight!

Also, first flights are pretty safe. Much riskier stuff is done on later flights.

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User currently offlineS4popo From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

In today's world, I would have no problems flying on any first flight. Possible risks have been greatly reduced due to advancements in technology. Think of all simulations being done prior to the first flight.

First flight 40-50 years ago might be a different story though.


User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5095 times:



Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 4):

Why?...  confused 


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5094 times:



Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 4):
I believe the A380 pilots had parachutes for the first flight. Was that the case for the 787 as well?

Yes, both pilots had emergency parachutes. There was also explosive charges to blow out some of the windows to depressurize the plane quickly and another charge to blow out the door behind the wing so they could bail out if need be.



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User currently offlineFamfflores From Brazil, joined Jun 2009, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5052 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 9):

Really? These measures were in place for the 787 as well? That´s very interesting, thank you for the insight.

[Edited 2009-12-17 03:59:26 by famfflores]

User currently offlineBe77 From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5042 times:

Not a first flight per se, but I recall (barely - I was in uni then) being willing to volunteer to be aboard STS-26 if no one else wanted to go.
Am now saving pennies dreaming that I'll have enough left over to spend at Virgin Galactic.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5022 times:



Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 9):
Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 4):
I believe the A380 pilots had parachutes for the first flight. Was that the case for the 787 as well?

Yes, both pilots had emergency parachutes. There was also explosive charges to blow out some of the windows to depressurize the plane quickly and another charge to blow out the door behind the wing so they could bail out if need be.



Quoting Famfflores (Reply 10):
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 9):


Really? These measures were in place for the 787 as well? That´s very interesting, thank you for the insight.

Mentioned in the following SEA newspaper article prior to the first flight.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...space/2010509548_787profile15.html

Excerpt:

On the 787's first flight today, Boeing must plan for every possibility.

The jet will have a standby radio phone, and Carriker and co-pilot Randy Neville will carry six handheld radios. They'll also have two parachutes. In the worst-case scenario, they can flip a switch behind them that will blow out eight windows to depressurize the airplane. Another switch will detonate a charge to blow off an exit door behind the right wing. Then they can jump. Unlikely, yes. But Carriker doesn't dismiss the unknowns he faces.

"We have a plastic airplane. ... It's the first time anybody in the industry has taken a large composite wing with a composite spar and gone whipping out," he said. "Obviously, we think we're OK, otherwise we wouldn't go fly. But the proof is still in the pudding."


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2644 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5012 times:
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Absolutely. I hope to be able to fly on QF's first 787 commercial flight.


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User currently offlineGrozzy From Australia, joined Oct 2007, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4972 times:

I wouldnt have worries flying on a major airliner's maiden flight. A small homebuilt plane would be another matter.

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