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User currently offlineTheS3COND From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 15 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3692 times:

Hey everyone.

I was hoping to get some advice on a trip I am going to take to Tokyo in April. Here are my options for an Economy ticket from LAX.

UA - Non-stop 744 $783

DL - Non-stop to NRT on 744, then NRT - PDX (763) and PDX-LAX (738) $790

SQ - Non-stop 744 $871

DL - Non-stop 744 $883


The reason the DL flights are there is because that is the frequent flyer program that I have accrued miles with and it would be nice to put 11 grand in the pot. But if it isn't a good experience, then I might not go with it.

My questions are these:
1) Does United's 744s now have AVOD? I read in the forums that they were to be upgraded
2) Does Delta/NW's 744s on this route still only have overhead video?
3) What is DLs 763 like?
3) Is SQ's 744 on the LAX-NRT-LAX route one of the "select" 744s that the website mentions? One with AVOD and new economy class?

Any other comments on any of these planes/carriers/routes would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks and Happy Holidays!!!

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24325 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3689 times:



Quoting TheS3COND (Thread starter):
1) Does United's 744s now have AVOD? I read in the forums that they were to be upgraded

No AVOD. Only overhead monitors in Y class. A fantastic seat with AVOD in business class however  bigthumbsup 

Quoting TheS3COND (Thread starter):
3) Is SQ's 744 on the LAX-NRT-LAX route one of the "select" 744s that the website mentions? One with AVOD and new economy class?

Not sure. I've been on this flight enroute to SIN but in business class, however SQ is in the fast process of retiring its 744s, so I'm not to confident this flight will remain a 744. Might verywell be a 773ER by the time the date rolls around.

Also any reason why AA, JL and NH are not on your list? Of the bunch I would highly recommend ANA even in Y class. Brand new 773ERs with quite a good onboard product offering.



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User currently offlineTheS3COND From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3670 times:

Thanks a lot for your response. I appreciate it.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):

Also any reason why AA, JL and NH are not on your list? Of the bunch I would highly recommend ANA even in Y class. Brand new 773ERs with quite a good onboard product offering.

I need to fly on a cheap flight in order to take the trip and the tickets on AA, JL, and NH are too expensive. Looks like I may be out of luck on getting AVOD in Y on any of these flights. If that's the case, then I might just go with DL to get the miles.

Anyone know about DL's 763s or NW/DL 744s?


User currently offlineBraniff747SP From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 2917 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3669 times:



Quoting TheS3COND (Reply 2):
Anyone know about DL's 763s or NW/DL 744s?

I do believe that the 763's have AVOD, if not, most of them do, but the 744's don't. Someone with better knowledge may be able to help you further.


--Axel



The 747 will always be the TRUE queen of the skies!
User currently offlineFoppishbum From Taiwan, joined Mar 2006, 788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3665 times:



Quoting TheS3COND (Reply 2):
Anyone know about DL's 763s or NW/DL 744s?

A friend just flew that flight last week. It was the NW/DL 744. I'm not very sure but I think he said there's no AVOD in Y.



I'm a TAIWANESE-American living in NYC and LA.
User currently offlineGOCAPS16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4334 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3621 times:

Here's another option. I found $765 R/T on Korean Air from LAX-NRT in April. However, it does require a layover in ICN, so if you don't mind grabbing some kim chi and rice in ICN, then why not. Service is wonderful, great food in Y, and they do have a great IFE system, AVOD or not, as if you were going on Delta's or UA's 744, which they have no personal IFE. Since KE is SkyTeam, you will get your miles with them. Korean flies the 747-400 from LAX-ICN/ICN-LAX and the 777-300 on the ICN-NRT-ICN route and a wonderful thing is that you can book it on delta.com. I also checked JL and ANA, and they wanted $3,000-$6,000 R/T, unless you can afford it, Mr. Lawyer, it better be in F class, am I correct?

Merry Christmas from Japan.


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1828 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3597 times:



Quoting TheS3COND (Thread starter):
2) Does Delta/NW's 744s on this route still only have overhead video?

All DL/NW 744s in economy have the old-style projection video against the central galley bulkhead. Old overhead CRTs fill the gap for the seats immediately to the side of the middle galley. And the economy cabin will likely show its age. It doesn't add up in DL/NW's favor. The likely upgrades for the 744 are long overdue. Awesome plane, disappointing product.

I would go for SQ if their planes have a better product, or UA if they do not.


User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3592 times:

Korean Air has really a top product in Y class, Excellent IFE, nice food, and complementary alcoholic drinks!. I would choose KE anytime over SQ.

Regards,

AMS


User currently offlineTheS3COND From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

KE sounds great. My dates are pretty fixed and what I can end up doing is flying KE to NRT through ICN on the way there and DL NRT-LAX on the way back. For some reason doing it this way is cheaper than just a KE round-trip flight.

Quoting GOCAPS16 (Reply 5):
Korean flies the 747-400 from LAX-ICN/ICN-LAX and the 777-300 on the ICN-NRT-ICN route and a wonderful thing is that you can book it on delta.com

Right now on Delta.com they are showing LAX-ICN as a 777-300ER and ICN-NRT on a 777-300. On KE's website, they are showing that LAX-ICN is serviced by one of their new planes: KE12

Now what I have to decide is if I would rather fly KE with a layover at ICN of four hours and a total flying time of 19hrs or just take DL or UA who are both offering non-stops there and back. Sounds like there is no comparison as far as the quality of service between KE and DL/UA and I could get miles so maybe I will just take the better carrier and deal with the layover.


User currently offlineGOCAPS16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4334 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3506 times:



Quoting TheS3COND (Reply 8):
Right now on Delta.com they are showing LAX-ICN as a 777-300ER and ICN-NRT on a 777-300. On KE's website, they are showing that LAX-ICN is serviced by one of their new planes: KE12

I would personally rather fly the 777-300 then a 747-400 anyday. The 773 service from Dulles to Tokyo on All Nippon was superb. Cheers!


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5825 posts, RR: 41
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3473 times:



Quoting GOCAPS16 (Reply 9):
The 773 service from Dulles to Tokyo on All Nippon was superb. Cheers!

was probably better than my J class service on UA the same day...

go with Kevin, get on the UA website too and book a codeshare flight operated by ANA.



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User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4334 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3466 times:



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 10):
get on the UA website too and book a codeshare flight operated by ANA.

Tried it, however they want twice as much as LAX-NRT on UA. Quite funny actually.

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 10):
was probably better than my J class service on UA the same day...

Of course, with everyone on the ANA flight chose to get on the United's IAD-NRT service, it was quite nice only having less then 50 passengers on board our 777-300ER. But you had a connection, so you had to go for it. When ya coming back to Tokyo, Mont?


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5825 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

couldn't say for sure mate, I am living in Melbourne now...hoping to make a trip somewhere in May.


a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1030 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3404 times:



Quoting TheS3COND (Reply 8):
KE sounds great. My dates are pretty fixed and what I can end up doing is flying KE to NRT through ICN on the way there and DL NRT-LAX on the way back. For some reason doing it this way is cheaper than just a KE round-trip flight.

I'm quite certain that KE actually do have a route that does LAX-NRT-ICN you could do this option rather than backtracking to ICN and still do a non-stop to NRT. I think the flight is KE002? Maybe its not coming up in your search cuz its a bit on the pricier side since its the non stop-?


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