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Impressed By The A340-600!  
User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10139 times:

So I just arrived in IST from OKC. My routing was OKC-DEN on a UA A319, and DEN-FRA on an A340-600 of Lufthansa. Man, there is something just really impressive about that aircraft! It has a really solid feel to it, and I will give you airbus guys this, it is a touch quieter than the 777. Now, having said that, I don't like the interior as I think they could have done a better job making it flow and more airy, but damn, it's one sexy aircraft. Oh, and the use of LED lights throughout really were cool.

Here's a shot of that sexy wing:



Anyone else surprised by the airbus widebodies? My only really other complaint is that the windows are tiny, and well, the narrowbodies do nothing for me.

UAL

[Edited 2010-01-09 16:15:53]

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User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 10095 times:
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Yeah the A346 really is a great piece of kit. A sad reflection on me, but one of the things I love about the A340 is the signage. All LED and when the captain switches on the seatbelt signs they flash to get your attention.

Sandyb123



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User currently offlinePagophilus From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9947 times:



Quoting UAL747 (Thread starter):
and I will give you airbus guys this, it is a touch quieter than the 777.

The -300 series is even quieter. Even the old models. A pleasure to fly in.


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9751 times:

Yes, the A340 is a lovely plane to fly on. It's always been very under-rated.

Some people I know prefer it to the A380 because it is still quiet, but doesn't have as many people on it.

If I can choose the planes I prefer to fly on, it's A340, A380 and the very latest B737-800.


User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3624 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9415 times:

I also, like the A346. Like the way it look like a hybrid of an A300 and DC-8 series 60/70's, as a matter of fact, I look at an A340 to an A300 as a DC-8 is to a DC-9, a four engine big sister. As for noise level, both the A340 and A380 are too quite at take off for me. I like the rumble of a 747 engines, or the high pitch spool up sound of a 777 with GE 90s.


Jet should sound like jet!!!!  Big grin


User currently offlineZKEOJ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1024 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9386 times:

Have you had a look at the Y washrooms? I like how they are downstairs. They even have snacks in front of them, haha!

I also like the 2-seaters at the window - to me the most powerful selling tool for tickets on A340/330 (and the -600 is no exception).

Glad you enjoyed the bird!
Cheers
micha


User currently offlineWn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9281 times:

A ride on the the A346 is great way to forget how awesome the 777 really is. I've never had a bad experience on any A330/340 and have always thought the interiors to be very well done. It is very quiet, and reasonably comfortable in every class I've ever flown them*.
I know the windows are a touch small, but they are nice & high, and nothing like as bad as our friend the CR2!



*Ok folks, this is Anet for crying out loud. Is the 777 noise really that offensive? I thought we were airplane nerds who were supposed to like that sort of thing! No one ever buys a Porsche and complains of "Engine Noise"...


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6920 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9173 times:

I've had eight flights on A340-600s on LH and VS, four in C and four in Y and I'll go out of my way to choose it.

Unfortunately, it's a choice that is seldom available.  Sad


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9158 times:



Quoting 747400sp (Reply 4):
or the high pitch spool up sound of a 777 with GE 90s.

I hate that sound! Even worse when they throttle it back slightly - a very painful sound. To be honest, I'd love all planes to be as quiet as the A380 - it'd make my house a lot quieter. I like planes, but I don't their noise when I'm trying to watch TV or listen to music.


User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3624 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8948 times:

[quote=Wn700driver,reply=6]*Ok folks, this is Anet for crying out loud. Is the 777 noise really that offensive? I thought we were airplane nerds who were supposed to like that sort of thing! No one ever buys a Porsche and complains of "Engine Noise"...[/quote}


I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!! We as plane fans, should like the loud sound of planes.





Thank you, Wn700driver for putting this point out.


User currently offlineTimpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8811 times:

Yeah, its a nice airframe. I still have more intercontinental legs on A340 airframes than 747 & 777 models, including the Etihad A345 legs that I just flew a couple of weeks ago. In profile, the 346 is just awesome to look at, second only to the 747 profile, IMO.

User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8775 times:



Quoting 747400sp (Reply 9):
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!! We as plane fans, should like the loud sound of planes.

Totally Disagree. I'd rather get to my destination rested on a quiet plane rather than be up all night over the ocean thinking about great the plane is because the jets sound like F-16 after burners. No thanks...

I still love taking off from LAX, getting to cruise, and barely hearing a peep out of the A380 jets until landing in MEL. Best nights sleep of any flight of my life.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6920 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8749 times:



Quoting 747400sp (Reply 9):
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!! We as plane fans, should like the loud sound of planes.

Rubbish. If I'm sitting in a long-haul jet for 10 hours I want to be able to talk to the person next to me without shouting and to get off the flight feeling relaxed, not as if I've just driven coast to coast on a Harley Davidson!

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 9):
We as plane fans, should...

"Should"? Excuse me, SHOULD??! Please don't tell me what the qualifications are for being a "plane fan". I've been enjoying airliners since before you were born. You get your kicks from noisy planes if you like but please don't lay down rules for everyone else.

 Wink


User currently offlineCpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8626 times:



Quoting SW733 (Reply 11):
I still love taking off from LAX, getting to cruise, and barely hearing a peep out of the A380 jets until landing in MEL. Best nights sleep of any flight of my life.

My thoughts too. It's why I don't like the B747 so much.

But Bose noise-cancelling headphones do a good job of cancelling the B747 P&W washing machine sound out (if they haven't been banned because of terrorism paranoia).

When my Bose QC3's wear out, I'll replace them with Quiet Comfort 15s.

I love photographing planes, and the F16 (incredibly loud) is one of my favourites to photograph - but I don't like loud noise all the time.


User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5467 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8626 times:

Strangely, in hundreds of segments over the course of my life I have *never* ridden in an A330/A340. It seems all my international segments always happen to be on 757, 767 or 777 equipment.

I keep hoping I'll have an itinerary that allows me to experience the -600 in particular -- all the reports I read, and pictures I see, are impressive. Airbus may have made the plane too heavy to have competitive economics, but it seems they really nailed it from a passenger point of view.


User currently offlineGasman From New Zealand, joined Mar 2004, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8485 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 14):
Airbus may have made the plane too heavy to have competitive economics, but it seems they really nailed it from a passenger point of view

I agree. Gorgeous. Looks like a modern day DC-8 from the outside (one of my favourite aircraft) and a delight to behold on the inside.

But overall, I do think I marginally prefer the 77W...........


User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8233 times:

I've had enough experience on both types to make an informed opinion:

I've done A343s on VS, EK, EY
I've done A345s on EY and EK
I've done A346s on VS, QR, EY, TG and LH.

I've done 772s on BA, AA, UA, CO, AF, SQ, EK, KU, KE and MH
I've done 773s, on EK, TG, CX and SQ
I've done 77Ws on EK, EY, QR, SQ, AF, AC, NH and KL.

The A340NG are just awesome aircraft to fly on - so quiet yet so powerful. They feel larger than the 773s even though they arent as wide, and they are much quieter. Take-offs are not as powerful, but far quieter and they handle turbulence better in my opinion. I prefer the overhead bins and mood lighting on the triple seven, but overall the A340NG is my choice if i have one. I'm 100% happy on a triple seven but i prefer A340s.

A380 is much quieter again then even the A343s though in my experience (EK, QF and SQ) - have been told that EK had to put white noise generators in their crew rest areas on their A388s because the noise of the cabin pax etc is too loud!

I've done a lot more flights on 777s than on A340s - the thing is that a lot of it is to do with service and IFE - I'd rather go on an SQ or QR 77W than a Philippines A343 or Hainan A346 for example, but given the chance I'd take the A340 over the 777 if possible.

There's not as much in it as some Airbus nuts would have you believe but the A340 has a slight edge i think in terms of passenger appeal. Its just a better, quieter, smoother and more pleasant ride in my opinion.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8122 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 14):
Airbus may have made the plane too heavy to have competitive economics, but it seems they really nailed it from a passenger point of view.

Its still much more econoical than the 744 - people tend to forget that. The only thing Airbus did wrong was not to hand a pair of GE90-115bs under those big wings.

Just because its not as economical as the 77W doesnt make it uncompetitive. Its still much more economical than the aircraft it replaced - the 744 and 747 classic. It carries more payload, further, for 20% less fuel burn.

And it is still better than the 77W for the hot and high missions.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7993 times:

...but the A340 cannot compete in one respect:

Anyone felt the GE90s start up?

It starts with a low rumble. It rises in pitch, louder and louder, until it reverberates through the fuselage until the whole plane is vibrating, then the pitch increases and its softens to the far-off-waterfall noise.

I love the fact that in Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Gatwick and a slew of other airports you are totally insulated from noise whilst walking on the concourse, 747s taking off are just a hushed whisper, but as soon as a 77W pushes back and starts up outside it reverberates through the entire terminal - unmistakable.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1652 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7934 times:

This whole noise on the Airbus 330/340 vs. 777 should also be noted on the 320 vs.737NG. LIke the widebodies, I find sitting behind the wings on the 320s to be fairly quiet and when sitting behind the wing on a 737NG its god awful loud, esp. when climbing between altitudes. Is it a design flaw? Surprised Boeing allows this.

User currently offlineMatthew11 From Canada, joined May 2009, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7905 times:

I have also been on an A340-600 with LH YYZ-FRA. It truly is a great aircraft. Very comfortable smooth flight. It was quiet indeed. I flew back on an AC 773 FRA-YYZ. It is also a remarkable aircraft. It was an enoyable flight. I will admit it was a little noisier and turbulent.


Matt from YYC
User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7703 times:

I echo your sentiment...it is an impressive aircraft to behold and flying it is noticably different than anything else xcepting the A380 as I have never flown her...but even on the ground the steerable rear undercarriage gives you a strange sensation while turning corners...245 feet long and no tailskid!...I took D-AIHO to EDDM and D-AIHR back...
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User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2241 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7585 times:

I always have enjoyed flying on AC's A333 and A343. Never had the opportunity to fly on the A345 the short time it was in the fleet. Nor have I been on a A346. If I get the chance to fly to FRA I have always wanted to fly one way on the LH346 and return on the AC77W to closely compare. My neighbour flies regularly between YYZ and FRA and flies both aircraft routinely. He doesn't have a clear preference and sleeps most of the way anyways.

He isn't quite so fond of the first class pods when he is awake and calls them coffins. However for sleeping he quite likes them.


User currently offlineSoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7196 times:



Quoting PM (Reply 12):

Ouch!...If its silent flight you want , then take up glider flying but nothing compares to "balls to the wall' vibration, thrust and noise" than on take off...after,...simply plop on a set of Bose headphones. Besides, who wants to talk for eight hours anyway,... except my girlfriend...  no 


User currently offlineA340andre From South Africa, joined Nov 2008, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6581 times:
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Being from SA, it means that about 90% of my flights are on SAA. As you know they make use of the A342, A343 and A346.

I made use of EK to Europe via DXB, DL to ATL, AF to CDG and KL to AMS a few times and must admit that I miss the effortless and smooth cruising of the A340 everytime I fly on the 777. Not that I want to say I don not enjoy the 777 as well...

I am looking forward to fly SAA on the A332's that will arrive in 2011 although I am not sure what routes they will service.


25 BOACCunard : The only A340 I've flown in is a 343, CDG-JFK on AF. I enjoyed the JFK-CDG flight on the 77E, but the return on the 343 was one of my best flights eve
26 Post contains images Cpd : And have sweaty ears after 2-3 hours.   They are bad for that - first hand experience here. I can never sleep easily on a plane, the vibration and r
27 N68tlcaptain : Absolutely not! I LOVE the 777 and the noise was no big deal. if you think the noise is annoying, you have to realize that the GE90 is a HUGE ENGINE
28 PM : "balls to the wall"??! Don't the flight attendants make you sit down for take off? Well, vibrating balls may do it for some folk but my appreciation
29 Eisenbach : Last November I was flying the 777 the first time (unbelievable) and yes it is quiet loud, but it didn't bother me at all. I prefer the 330/340 becaus
30 Astuteman : I can go with that. I was awed by the quality of the experience when I flew a LAN 343 from SCL to AKL a while back. I can go with that too... Ok folk
31 Hirnie : I haven't been on an A380 until now. So for me the A340 is by far the best plane to travel on. As most of the posters above said, it is silent, smooth
32 Acabgd : Quite unbelievable with the amount of flying I do, but I still haven't had a chance to fly the A340. Actually, I did have a chance a couple of times,
33 CXB77L : Not in my experience. I've flown HKG-YVR on the 77W and ICN-YVR on an A343, and the 777's ride in turbulence was a lot smoother than the 343's. Eithe
34 TurkishWings : Last year in February, I flew LH 340-600 twice (FRA-ORD and LAX-MUC). The aircraft is a beauty, the PTVs worked well etc etc but I thought the seats w
35 Viscount724 : I much preferred the DC-10 (and MD-11) due to their much larger windows which made the cabin seemed brighter and more spacious, and permitted a much
36 CXB77L : I'm curious: the people that don't like the 3-3-3 or 3-4-3 layout on a 777, do they also dislike the 3-4-3 layout on the 747 and A380? Larger planes a
37 BOACCunard : I prefer 2-4-2 on an A340 to 3-4-3 on a 747, sure. The fewer middle seats, the better. The 767 is dull but it's great in that respect!
38 AlexEU : I flew TG A340-600 and I was dissapointed, because I don´t find it anything better then A340-300 (flew EK, LX and OA). I enjoyed A340-300 though...Wo
39 Soon7x7 : Na...not me,...more tech,...when 950,000 lbs of lightweight material can hang four 9,000lb engines on it and project 80,000lbs of thrust each, with 3
40 Daviation : I'll just add my thoughts since I have flown both the 777-200ER (LY and CO) and A340-600 (LH). The 777 is certainly loud on takeoff -- the power of th
41 Soon7x7 : The headsets do get warm but having commuted on trains for 5 years to NYCity, I have found train noise and jet engines to be like "white noise" loude
42 Westjet!Eh! : Yes... there's something strange about flight time. Normally, A340/A330 takes 9 hrs whereas B744/B77W takes 8 hrs when flying between Sydney and Hong
43 Post contains links UAL747 : Guys, my trip report on the A340-600 is up if you want to take a look, since it was the reason for this topic: Oklahoma Goes To Turkey (UA,LH,TK) Pics
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