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Questions About Flying Classic Aircraft In 2010  
User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13467 times:

Dear all,

I was hoping to find some advice from you about some aircraft & airlines I came across recently, and I was wondering if anyone knows what their status is, and if an outlook towards their availability in 2010 can be made.

1) To start with the Il-62, these three pictures were of interest:


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I was surprised that this one was still active   
If anyone has an insight into the Amadeus schedules, are there still any CU Il-62 flights scheduled in 2010 (most likely HAV to CCS)?


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Here, I don't fully understand the photographers remark, was this aircraft delivered before the suspension of services, or is there a re-start of Aria Air in sight?   


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The Il-62 in the background was in storage for over two years at DME I think, but it looks like there may be some activity going on. Does anyone know who Alpha Air is and what services they offer? Other than these three, I think Air Koryo is the only active operator, but equivalently hard to get on since the Tu-204 is in service.



2) Regarding the 707, the latest I knew was that Saha Air was grounded throughout the second half of 2009, but these photos seem to indicate the opposite (check the remarks & dates):

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Does the following photo indicate the end of the Saha Air 707 operations?

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Therefore, does anyone know, what the status of Saha Air is? Are they back in regular service yet? An outlook for 2010 is probably hard to make, since things keep changing quickly over there.



3) Also, I am still observing the developments of the RAF L-1011 flights to Ascension & Falkland Islands. I posted a thread a few weeks back asking whether the L-1011 will resume this service at some stage, and it was stated that Flyglobespan will be operating these flights for another year at least. Now, after Flyglobespan went bust, what is the outlook for this service? Will there be a new contract awarded to a charter carrier, or maybe the RAF L-1011s will return? If anyone is interested what this service is about, here is the link with some info:

Tristar Service To Ascension / Falkland Islands (by Loran Dec 5 2009 in Civil Aviation)



4) And as the last for all similar minded users, I found this great tool in another topic in Civil Aviation about collecting timetables. It contains the up-to-date route maps of 650 airlines worldwide and allows you to filter particular aircraft types to display their scheduled routes in 2009/10. Great tool and I can spend hours looking for rare aircraft worldwide. I thought you may like this, too  

http://arm.64hosts.com/

Any help, advice and comments about the above aircraft & airlines is highly appreciated.

Regards,
Loran

[Edited 2010-01-16 04:28:05]


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User currently offline02hilliert From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13403 times:



Quoting Loran (Thread starter):
3) Also, I am still observing the developments of the RAF L-1011 flights to Ascension & Falkland Islands. I posted a thread a few weeks back asking whether the L-1011 will resume this service at some stage, and it was stated that Flyglobespan will be operating these flights for another year at least. Now, after Flyglobespan went bust, what is the outlook for this service? Will there be a new contract awarded to a charter carrier, or maybe the RAF L-1011s will return? If anyone is interested what this service is about, here is the link with some info:

From reports I have read, the L1011 will only resume Ascension & Falklands flying if Britain pulls out of the Middle East, which simply isn't going to happen.

In the wake of the Globespan collapse, an urgent search for capacity was undertaken by the MoD for at least a short term solution to the problem, with carriers from all over the World being contacted.

Due to the bizarre schedules that these flights operate to, many airlines cannot withdraw aircraft from their operational fleets and commit to a flight that does not operate on a weekly basis. Thus, the MoD were left looking for an airline that had a spare aircraft parked up somewhere. Hence, the flights were (or are) being operated by an Air Tahiti Nui A340-300.

I gather the contract will be going to tender shortly, and there will be the opportunity for various airlines around the world to stake their claim for these lucrative flights. However, as Globespan will testify to. No matter how lucrative these flights are, they can't always keep you affloat.



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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 13382 times:



Quoting 02hilliert (Reply 1):
Due to the bizarre schedules that these flights operate to, many airlines cannot withdraw aircraft from their operational fleets and commit to a flight that does not operate on a weekly basis. Thus, the MoD were left looking for an airline that had a spare aircraft parked up somewhere. Hence, the flights were (or are) being operated by an Air Tahiti Nui A340-300.

Ah, that would explain this odd diversion:

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Thanks for the info, so no hope for L-1011 service on that route in the near future. Wish it would be possible to get infos on occasional equipment changes (if there is such a thing)....



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 690 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13320 times:

Hello Loran,

will tell you the bits & pieces that i know,,,

Quoting Loran (Thread starter):
is there a re-start of Aria Air in sight?

Yes, Aria Air will restart,against Govt. wishes, but thru a court order. AFAIK, IL62 ops will resume soon if not already.

Quoting Loran (Thread starter):
Does the following photo indicate the end of the Saha Air 707 operations?

Very Likely, Info i have from THR is that that another 2 ex CZ AB6's (EP-SIA & EP-SIF) will be brought online with the gradual retirement of the B707 ops.... the plan is that they be used for cargo ops only.

Time will tell...

Quoting Loran (Thread starter):
maybe the RAF L-1011s will return?

Have been told, that every XX months that the L1011 has to make the run as to take certain "Military Equipment" down south ,as not permitted on civil aircraft.
How much truth in that..? best idea is to check how many visits the L1011 made to Port Stanley during the Flyglobespan contract.

will update as and when more info is acquired.

rgds


User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 690 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 13300 times:

Just had word hat Saha have now bought there 2nd ex CZ Ab6, while the word on the street is that Aria Air may well be leasing MD80's ex Ukraine.

User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13277 times:



Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 4):

Very detailed insight, Tugmaster. Thank you very much!

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 3):
Have been told, that every XX months that the L1011 has to make the run as to take certain "Military Equipment" down south ,as not permitted on civil aircraft.
How much truth in that..? best idea is to check how many visits the L1011 made to Port Stanley during the Flyglobespan contract.

Occasional equipment change was my hope (first time I'd be happy about equipment change though)  sly 

I guess it is safe to assume that the restrictions for carrying equipment on that route will remain with a new civil contractor. I will do some research to find out if / how often the L-1011s return.

Thanks again and I'd be happy if you could post more info once you get an update.

Loran



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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13267 times:

I found one more Il-62 operator (Deta Air):

http://www.detakz.com/air/regular

They claim to operate scheduled weekly flights on the route Shymkent-Istanbul-Shymkent. Is this really happening and has anyone actually seen an Il-62 in IST?



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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 13253 times:



Quoting Loran (Reply 6):
I found one more Il-62 operator (Deta Air):

They even acquired 3 in july/august 2008. UP-I6206, UP-I6207 and UP-I6209.


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However i haven't seen a photo more recent than 2008 on any website in the web, so i doubt if they're really are operating. However you always can send them an email  Smile

And there is one more operator of the IL-62: "Aviaenergo" http://www.aviaenergo.ru They have two aircraft according to their website, but as far as my information is correct only RA-86583 is still flying around. However they seem only to lease/charter them out, no scheduled services.

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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 690 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 13250 times:

I believe that the IL62's that Aria Air where flying around where leased from DETA AIR.
If you manage to pick up a copy of this months Airways magazine, (think it has an A380 on the front), there's a very good article inside from a chap called Charles Kennedy who flew a couple of the Aria Air's IL62, including the one that crashed.
Interesting side note to the article, the IL62 that crashed had Aria Air TU154 safety cards on board......


User currently offlineEGPH From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13215 times:

Hello, with regard to the replacement for the GSM service to the Falkland Islands. I had heard that MON had volunteered to fill the gap with their A330's in the short term. Does anyone know any different?

User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 13186 times:

Thanks Severnaya, Tugmaster and EGPH!

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 7):

Doubtful that they operate this service. If they were always on time maybe the lack of photos is due to the late night arrival and early morning departure, however with three days on the ground in SAW?

Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 8):
If you manage to pick up a copy of this months Airways magazine, (think it has an A380 on the front), there's a very good article inside from a chap called Charles Kennedy who flew a couple of the Aria Air's IL62, including the one that crashed.

I might be to late for this edition, the 02/2010 is already out according to their website. But it mentions the article with the scary Il-62 details:

http://www.airwaysmag.com/channels.html?article_id=200&channel_id=16

Quoting EGPH (Reply 9):
Hello, with regard to the replacement for the GSM service to the Falkland Islands. I had heard that MON had volunteered to fill the gap with their A330's in the short term

Interesting, thanks. Monarch is as boring as Flyglobespan. I wouldn't mind if e.g. Omni Air DC-10s would pick up that service, or the RAF L-1011s  Smile

I have now found out that the CU Il-62 operates until end of March, it seems to be scheduled for the Friday morning flights to CCS. However the CU website booking engine is down and elsewhere availability is shown as 0.



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User currently offline02hilliert From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2007, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13179 times:



Quoting EGPH (Reply 9):
Hello, with regard to the replacement for the GSM service to the Falkland Islands. I had heard that MON had volunteered to fill the gap with their A330's in the short term. Does anyone know any different?

I can tell you that Monarch were approached, and the availability wasn't there for the flights, due to the irregular schedules required by the MoD. A weekly service would have been more attractive. An A300 option was also looked at, but really didn't make much sense.

Quoting Loran (Reply 10):
Interesting, thanks. Monarch is as boring as Flyglobespan.

Ouch, that hurts!



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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 13142 times:

If anyone is interested, there is a CU Il-62M service HAV-CCS-HAV on the 28th of February and most other Sundays that month. You can book it through www.wideroe.no. It is around AU$540 return, same fare o/w. Will see if I can make it... This seems to be the least dangerous option of the discussed operators.


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User currently offlineEGPH From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 13127 times:



Quoting 02hilliert (Reply 11):
I can tell you that Monarch were approached, and the availability wasn't there for the flights, due to the irregular schedules required by the MoD. A weekly service would have been more attractive. An A300 option was also looked at, but really didn't make much sense.

Thanks for that!


User currently onlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2593 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13122 times:

Good thread. It would be nice if we could all keep this one alive by adding anything we find out about interesting aircraft to fly this year.

My next trip is to Syria to fly the Tu-134 and YAK-40 on 5-6 February. There doesn't seem to be any sign of these being replaced so they're still more than doable.

I've been keping my eye on the Trast Aero BAC One Eleven 500s but it seems difficult to find out what they're actually doing. EX-086 has been stored at RKT since the middle of 2009 but EX-103 had been active until recently and it looks like it has just been re-registered 4L-BAS and is also at RKT. I hope it becomes possible to fly on this at some point.

I also noticed the limited Cubana IL-62 ops to CCS in Amadeus. I've already flown CU-T1280 but it is still very tempting. I couldn't find any other CU flights operated by the IL-62.

The Daallo Airlines IL-18s have been replaced by a DC-9 30 on their international flights to JED and NBO so the only option to get on these is now some of the flights into Hargeisa, Somaliland. I was lucky enough to get on one of these last year when they were still operating to JED: To The Horn Of Africa By Ilyushin 18 [pics/videos] (by UK_Dispatcher Dec 13 2009 in Trip Reports)
I'd still love to get another flight on one of these.

Any idea whether any IL-86s will be operating this year?


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13071 times:

Hi Ian,

Thanks for your update, I was hoping you guys would be able to share some infos here.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 14):
I've been keping my eye on the Trast Aero BAC One Eleven 500s but it seems difficult to find out what they're actually doing. EX-086 has been stored at RKT since the middle of 2009 but EX-103 had been active until recently and it looks like it has just been re-registered 4L-BAS and is also at RKT. I hope it becomes possible to fly on this at some point.

That sounds like an interesting aircraft. Do you know which route they fly?

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 14):
I've already flown CU-T1280 but it is still very tempting. I couldn't find any other CU flights operated by the IL-62.

Lucky you  Smile I think the Il-62 only serves this route when the Tu-204 is in maintenance or on another flight, and I didn't observe any more flights after the winter schedule. Question is, do they really operate these flights every Sunday?

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 14):
I'd still love to get another flight on one of these.

Me too! If I only had enough time to cover all of those at once...

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 14):
Any idea whether any IL-86s will be operating this year?

Does anyone have an insight into Amadeus? That Airline Route mapper tool I linked above doesn't display any scheduled ILW flights for the winter schedule, but maybe they return during the peak period. Atlant-Soyuz also made a retirement announcement a while back, but (like the SU Il-96s) they still seem to operate:

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Cheers,
Loran



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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13066 times:



Quoting Loran (Reply 15):
but maybe they return during the peak period.

This is not maybe, it is for certain they will be in use during the peak travel periods to AYT and destinations like that.



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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13064 times:



Quoting Severnaya (Reply 16):
This is not maybe, it is for certain they will be in use during the peak travel periods to AYT and destinations like that.

That would be great. Which ones are still active? Ural? Atlant-Soyuz?
Not sure about Aeroflot-Don:

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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1403 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 13059 times:

Donavia & Atlant-Soyuz are most likely as there are photos of them flying around even in 2010.

Ural also has at least one able to fly immediately (as it's from time to time flying the MOW-SVX runs).

Not sure though how bookable these flights are as most of them are chartered ones.



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User currently offlineSAAB900 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12905 times:



Quoting Loran (Reply 6):
They claim to operate scheduled weekly flights on the route Shymkent-Istanbul-Shymkent. Is this really happening and has anyone actually seen an Il-62 in IST?

If I remember correctly on one of FLIEGER67's Trip Report's from Turkey he has a photo of one at Istanbul!

Dave(SAAB900).


User currently onlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2593 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12853 times:

Just heard from a contact in Iran that the Saha 707s are still active, flying daily to KIH and 3 times a week to MHD. Apparently the A300-600 will be used to DXB and DAM so the 707s may be around for a while.

It is still uncertain whether Aria Air and the IL-62s will see service again.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 19):
If I remember correctly on one of FLIEGER67's Trip Report's from Turkey he has a photo of one at Istanbul!

Here it is: Istanbul Sabiha´s New Terminal And Pegasus (by FLIEGER67 Dec 7 2009 in Trip Reports)

Now that IS interesting....


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12761 times:

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 19):
If I remember correctly on one of FLIEGER67's Trip Report's from Turkey he has a photo of one at Istanbul!
Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
Here it is: Istanbul Sabiha´s New Terminal And Pegasus (by FLIEGER67 Dec 7 2009 in Trip Reports)

Now that IS interesting....

Wow, so that service actually is operated. Who is up for it?

Also, there is an interesting comment on the above linked photo of the Aria Il-62 (EDIT: for some reason I am not able to link the photo in here, seems to be due to the recent site maintenance. I am referring to photo ID 1622948).

It says this airframe might take up for 'Caspian Airlines' in the near future, so at least it does not seem to be grounded for good.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
Just heard from a contact in Iran that the Saha 707s are still active, flying daily to KIH and 3 times a week to MHD. Apparently the A300-600 will be used to DXB and DAM so the 707s may be around for a while.

That is good to hear, maybe there will still be a time where both, the 707 and Il-62 are operating at the same time, making it worth to book a trip.



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User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 690 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12739 times:

Hello again,,

Latest news from Iran.

Mahan Air 747-400's are at IKA now. They returned from Turkey to IKA 2,3 weeks ago and they will be grounded here in Iran  no more flights with 747-400's)
Now Mahan Air is going to buy 3 A340. One A340-300 (EI-EHZ) and 2 A340-500 ..? ----
And the 2nd A300-600 for Saha Air was moved to Johannesburg.Ex- reg: B-2327 (China Southern).

Ian, i guess we have the same source right..? Will indeed be a fine day if the Saha AB6's are soley used for the Rumoured DAM & DXB start up.
rgds


User currently onlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2593 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12678 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 21):
Wow, so that service actually is operated. Who is up for it?

I am.

One of my collegues in Kazakhstan made some enquiries today and it does operate that weekly flight. You can apparently buy tickets in ALA and CIT. I just need to find out if it is possible to buy tickets at SAW. Apparently the flight is full for the next 2 weeks, so I am looking at early March.


User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 538 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12635 times:

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 23):

Hi Ian, good to hear there are others out there  

I am about to find out when I am available to go, it might also be March but I will only find out in a week. Are you able to post an update once you have some info about tickets in SAW? I will be in touch shortly when I have a better idea of my oncoming work commitments.

Cheers,
Loran



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25 TUGMASTER : hi guys,, count me in on this one, i fancy a little ride in a 62' btw, Saha have now recieved their 2nd A300-600 as expected, ex CZ , now sitting at T
26 Post contains links and images Loran : Just browsed the Deta Air website and it says two of their three Il-62's are for sale, including the sole passenger / combi aircraft It says: "Prolong
27 Severnaya : Any new information available?
28 TS-IOR : Less than a week ago i remember having seen on live mode-s radar a B767 from Africa (sorry for the lack of precision) flying from the Falklands to a R
29 UK_Dispatcher : I hadn't checked my e-mails for a few days until now, but still nothing from Deta Air's rep in Turkey. Her English is very poor and she never got bac
30 Aussie_ : What day does the IL62 operate from IST? As it happens I will be in Turkey in April and was looking at doing a day of domestic flying on Tues 13th, bu
31 UK_Dispatcher : It operates SAW-CIT on a Thursday and CIT-SAW on a Sunday. DET9007 SUN CIT-SAW 2000/2000 IL6 DET9008 THU SAW-CIT 0500/1230 IL6 It means spending at l
32 Post contains images Aussie_ : Thanks UK_Dispatcher. Sounds pretty tempting but the other half would have a fit if I attempted to change our holiday plans for this Next time...
33 TUGMASTER : Ian / Loran, apologies for being out of touch, but have been trying to plan loads My March schedule is filling up pretty fast, so unless we can find o
34 UK_Dispatcher : I've drawn a blank with regard to the Deta Air IL-62. I can't seem to find anyone who is able to speak English, let alone give me any information beyo
35 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I was planning a trip to Syria as well, to fly the Tu-134, but as I've already flown the Yak 40 and Yak 40K they have I've decided to call it off. Ess
36 Post contains images PlymSpotter : According to local sources, an A340-300 is going to be put on the THR-BHX route, replacing the current A310-300. Anyone else thinking it's going to b
37 UK_Dispatcher : Dan, Aeroflot are operating the IL-96 SVO-AYT again this summer, I believe. Also, for the remainder of the winter it operates two flights on a saturd
38 Severnaya : Correct. I don't know which variant you meant exactly, but there isn't a single TU-134 flying around anymore according to my records. Other variants,
39 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Unfortunately it ends a few weeks before I travel, plus it's got a fare of over €600 on the Aeroflot site! Would have been good fun though. There's
40 TUGMASTER : hi ya, here's a quick update on the SAHA situation.. Saha Air has two A300-600's now. one of them is in full Saha Air paint scheme and the other one i
41 UK_Dispatcher : I read today that within a few months all Russian Pilots flying in Iran will be replaced by Iranian Pilots. I can't see that boding well for the retu
42 Post contains images Loran : Hello to everyone and sorry for my absence. Good to see that this thread is still active. Thanks for sharing, sounds like Flyglobespan or Monarch? Onc
43 Post contains images PlymSpotter : It's generic really, I'm just after anything which is a Tu-134. I'm supposidly booked on a Yak-42D return with DonbassAero from KBP to DOK, but this
44 Severnaya : Good news for the ILW (IL-86) lovers. From July 2nd to half of september, Atlant-Soyuz will fly VKO-AER once daily with the ILW. 7B-201 VKO 15:55 AER
45 Larshjort : Maybe a dumb qustion but where and how do you book those flights, planning on going to Gelendzhik in september but when I try to book the flight to AE
46 Post contains links and images Severnaya : Well, just fill in from Moscow to Sochi and it should give you the desired result:
47 Larshjort : Weird, I couldn't choose any of the cities before, but it seems to work now, thank you. /Lars
48 Loran : Great news, though I have been on that service last year. I suspect Atlant-Soyuz will also fly to AYT during peak season, unless Turkey has put a ban
49 Larshjort : Where is Kuban planning to use their 737's and where do they still olan to use Yak 42's by september? /Lars
50 Loran : For everyone who wants to get on an ILW, this may be the very last scheduled service. I just saw that the Ural ILWs are retired, and according to ch-
51 Superfly : Great thread! Any CV880s or CV990s flying?
52 Severnaya : Yes i'm quite sure it's a commercial service as its posted on their website at the flight schedule, however the summer schedule hasn't been posted ye
53 UK_Dispatcher : According to ATDB, Deta Air IL-62M Combi UP-I6209 has been placed into storage. If true, I suspect this could be the end of the SAW-CIT operation.
54 Loran : Unfortunately not, I think the last one was actually used by NASA but was already retired many years back. Thanks a lot for that info. I hope this se
55 Post contains images PlymSpotter : The Kuban 737s are now not going to be taken up, so presumably this means the Yak-42Ds will soldier on! They do seem to be, and not due for retiremen
56 YVRLTN : While you guys seem to be more interested in flying Russian types, here in western Canada you can still fly scheduled services on the HS748 and DC3, p
57 MEA-707 : exactly, that's why I went to Vancouver and Yellowknife last year. An interesting plane you didn't mention is the Grumman Goose of Pacific Coastal Ai
58 YVRLTN : I didnt mention it as they were grounded after two crashes and I havent enquired if they are flying again.
59 Post contains links YVRLTN : The IL62 is back again - dont know if I would be brave enough to fly it though... Complete with photo http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=na
60 UK_Dispatcher : I saw this on Skyliner yesterday and immediately made enquiries with my contact in Sudan who has contacts with this new airline. Anything I find out
61 Post contains images PlymSpotter : I little bit of information on Russian types: Atlant-Soyez definately have two active Il-86s, as they were flying when I passed through VKO today but
62 UK_Dispatcher : Sorry to hear that, Dan. Have you managed to include a Tu-134 in your trip?
63 Severnaya : FV AN148 flew today to KUF & VKO from LED according to LED-website. tomorrow planned to MRV & VKO.
64 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Still to come on Wednesday. That had better not be cancelled *fingers crossed* That might explain why I could only see one parked on stand. I was giv
65 Post contains links and images Loran : View Large View MediumPhoto © Tek If anyone is interested, DME-BKK is the last scheduled 747-200 service outside Iran. According to the Transaero web
66 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Saw it lift off right in front of me whilst passing through the road block to get into the airport. Very nice looking bird in flight. A few days ago
67 Post contains links and images Loran : Many thanks for your valuable inputs, YVRLTN. Sounds like it is definitely worth giving BC a visit. I hope they will be around a bit longer than the
68 UK_Dispatcher : Axel - to answer your question yesterday about the CU IL6 schedule on the CCS route, flights are showing every friday until mid-July, then every other
69 Severnaya : No, two are flying at one time as the third is used for backup for the time being.
70 PlymSpotter : That must have changed since they got the third aircraft then I guess. At first one was kept as a spare I take?
71 Post contains links Loran : I have to correct myself, the last A310-200 outside Iran still operates until mid-May from DME to HGA & SSH. Last chance for everyone who wants t
72 UK_Dispatcher : Hope you got your A312 at the weekend. I'll hang on for Iran Air in July, visa permitting! My colleague in Sudan called me today to tell me he hasn't
73 Post contains links and images Loran : Thanks for asking, I did get on VP-BTM as planned and I just arrived back. View Large View MediumPhoto © Szabo Gabor Ok, thanks for this info. 2-3 d
74 Post contains links IL62Mdakar : First of all thanks for this brilliant thread. I hope it will be kept alive. Nice to see that there are likeminded people who love the classic jet out
75 PlymSpotter : I think it's being done partly as a tour package, aimed at SA being more high profile with the world cup this summer. Certainly they are cashing in o
76 UK_Dispatcher : Last I heard on the Sudan IL-62 front was that the aircraft had been grounded over an oxygen issue which needed to be rectified, but they were expecti
77 Post contains links and images Loran : Here is something different: View Large View MediumPhoto © Alastair T. Gardiner - WorldAirImages Does Air North sell tickets on HS-748s?
78 UK_Dispatcher : They certainly do. Check out the schedules on their website. I planned a trip last summer to try and get one of these but ended up being too pushed f
79 Post contains links IL62Mdakar : Unlike other BAE 748 operators in Canada, Air North is flying them on normal scheduled flights bookable on their home page. http://www.flyairnorth.com
80 MEA-707 : I flew Dubai-Dakha last week deliberately to get on the last bookable DC-10 airline: Biman Bangladesh. While Europe is now covered by A-310/777 of whi
81 Post contains images Loran : Congrats. Good to hear they are still going. I had numerous requests from fellow a.netters after my BG DC-10 trip report from a flight on S2-ACQ in N
82 MEA-707 : Oh good you say ! Indeed they operate the 747 too between Dhaka and Chittagong, the types are known by the staff when you ask for a domestic flight.
83 Post contains links Loran : Very well done. I just transited in DAC last year, without visa because it was on relatively short notice. I have to check the times, there may be a
84 Severnaya : Here it is for the lovers of the ILW (Il-86): Donavia (the former Aeroflot-Don) has started their summer charter flights with the ILW. SVO-AYT (2 dail
85 IL62Mdakar : Thank you for the info Severnaya. Do you know where these flights can be booked and how much they are roughly? They don’t seem to be available on t
86 Post contains links Severnaya : I guess charter indeed,however they also sell sometimes tickets from their offices at the airport. http://www.aeroflot-don.ru/timetable.aspx?type=tur
87 TUGMASTER : very interested in the 86 flights two questions flight times, so i can make a connection from Europe, & how can i purchase a ticket...? all help g
88 Post contains images Loran : Hi Tugmaster, I can share my experiences with the Atlant-Soyuz ILW from last year. I booked online VKO-AER-VKO (same day return) only 5 days in advanc
89 Post contains links IL62Mdakar : Unbelievable but thanks to the World Cup there is a „new“ L1011 around. Rollins Air from Honduras is operating some flights from Honduras and Mexi
90 MEA-707 : No one mentioned Bolivia yet. Aerosur still uses 2 Boeing 727s on domestic flights (mainly between the 4 biggest cities Sucre, La Paz, Cochabamba and
91 BOACCunard : Fascinating thread. It feels a bit odd that airplanes that were once totally commonplace to me, e.g. the 727, D10, L10 and 741/2/3, are now rare class
92 Post contains images Loran : Lucky you! I wish I (or my dad) had kept a record of my flights as a child.... Just a quick update from some news we brought home after flying anothe
93 Post contains images BOACCunard : Unfortunately, neither did I, but I do remember flying most of these multiple times. Mind you, there are some weird omissions ... I don't think I've
94 Post contains links and images IL62Mdakar : The mighty CONVAIR Props haven’t been mentioned much in this thread so far. It looks like Vision Air Haiti actually took off the ground and is now o
95 Post contains images Eirik : Hi guys According to alternativeairlines.com Kras Air flies scheduled IL-86´s from VKO to Simferopol and Adler-Sochi this summer. Aeroflot are using
96 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Very interesting news. I'll be in South America (Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil) in October, so I might just have to add Bolivia to that as wel
97 Post contains images JRadier : SOL als in "Shit Outta Luck"?
98 Post contains links Larshjort : Is Krasair bancrupt? Google translate from: http://www.krasair.ru/ http://translate.google.com/translat...2F%2Fwww.krasair.ru%2F&sl=ru&tl=en
99 Post contains links and images Loran : Hi Eirik, Kras Air definitely suspended operations together with AirUnion in 2008. The AER route may be the Atlant-Soyuz ILW however, which was annou
100 Post contains links Larshjort : On the german and russian site theres a booking engine. I can't find any flights selecting a same day return but otherwise it seems to work ok in ger
101 Post contains links and images Loran : Thanks a lot, I kept checking their English page which never worked. This one even lists equipment types Also, I found out that both Kras Air ILW fli
102 Post contains links and images IL62Mdakar : The Atlant Soyuz ILW flights to AER are listed on quite a few websites as 7B Krasair. Not sure why, but flight numbers and timings are definitely thos
103 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Whilst messing about with flights earlier this year, I came across quite a few Yak-40 possibilities with UTair. Some trip would include Tu-143, Tu-154
104 Post contains links and images Loran : Surprisingly the Yak-42 seems to be a more difficult hit than the Yak-40. From the over 1000 built -40s apparently there are still more than 100 in se
105 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Looking the other way you still have Cubana as a fairly safe bet. But they are supposed to be leaving when the An-148s arrive. Dan
106 TUGMASTER : fyi, 13th SEP is the last IL86 SIP flight.. Also, on a Wed & Fri, SU operate SVO-LCA with an IL96 the AN148 fly's at least twice daily VKO-LED...(
107 IL62Mdakar : Thanks Tugmaster. Do you know when the last AER flights will be. I am currently looking at 11th/12th September. Hope that still will be a safe bet.
108 Post contains images severnaya : Not only on this route but on many domestic routes from LED, but they're notorious for their delays as FV has currently still some issues with them.
109 Post contains images Eirik : Is it possible to book seats on these (ILW) flights ? If so; how ? Thanks [Edited 2010-07-19 01:16:24]
110 Larshjort : Which of the Atlant soyuz flight are with IL86 to AER? 201/2 or 203/4 can't see it on either thier website or alternateairlines. BTW does anyone know
111 Loran : I had no idea that there are still Yaks operating to Europe. I just assumed that an aircraft like this would be regulalry captured by the photographe
112 Larshjort : The current plan is to spend a day at the Gidroaviasalon in Gelendzhik september 9-12th so that would already be necessary. /Lars
113 severnaya : These are charter flights, so I guess not really open to flight-only bookings,however you can call them and ask it, or go to their sales office (whic
114 Post contains links and images Loran : View Large View MediumPhoto © Nelson Mejia I guess this photo is great news for everyone in here (thanks to Bernie for sending me the link, I totally
115 SAAB900 : I've just come back from a weeks holiday in Tunisia flying in & out of Monastir,when we landed there was a Transaero flight to Moscow that was us
116 UK_Dispatcher : Just a couple of updates: Iranian Airlines & Saha Air According to the latest ATDB update, the Iranian Airlines project has been cancelled, and th
117 Post contains images TUGMASTER : Morning All, as were in a update mode, a couple of updates from me too. IL86 I'm in touch with a travel agent in Moscow regarding the numerous MOW-AYT
118 samolet : DETA Air Il-62 flights Hi guys. Found your interesting thread when searching the internet for DETA Il-62 flights. I've had no luck at all with getting
119 Larshjort : THanks for the info, and welcome to A.net /Lars
120 Superfly : Glad to see this thread still active. How does one go about obtaining some of these older jets? Often times, their retirement isn't on an official dat
121 TUGMASTER : Hello all, I've just managed to secure the IL86. SVO-AYT on Donavia, AYT- VKO on Atlant -Soyuz transiting in Moscow, avoiding most visa requirments. f
122 Post contains images Superfly : Awesome! Look forward to reading your trip report.
123 samolet : Very nice trip indeed. How did you book the Donavia flight? It is a Charter flight and not available on their website ... Cheers - Samolet
124 TUGMASTER : I used a Russian / Moscow travel agency who sold the flights..... However, the flight only option,is not sold until 7 days prior to dep. So I booked
125 samolet : Thanks a lot for the information. I was looking for a good travel agency in Moscow. Does Dina speak English? My Russian is very very basic ... Cheers
126 Post contains links and images Loran : http://www.baltia.com/company.html Has anyone heard of this airline yet? They are planning to use a 1975 built ex-Logistics Air / Evergreen 747-282B (
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