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Longest A340-300 Routes, And Who Flies Them?  
User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6473 times:

Just wondering what the longest A343 routes are, and who is flying them? Also, what is the longest route LH is flying their A343s on?


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User currently offlineSAA738 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2009, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6453 times:

Probably not the longest, but long enough :

SAA on the Cape Town to London Heathrow route (5,200 Nautical Miles).

They operate 6 x A343's.



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6442 times:

CI TPE - FRA @ 5831 mi / 5067 nm came to my mind first, but after a while I found some routes to GRU were considerably longer with
LX ZRH - GRU @ 5957 mi / 5177 nm
and
LH MUC - GRU @ 6112 mi / 5311 nm
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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4435 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6437 times:

TK is about to use them on IST-GRU next month, 5689nm.

User currently offlinecoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6410 times:

A new one for CI from 28MAR10 would be... TPE-LHR 6091 mi / 5293 nm.
An old one for CI would be TPE-JFK 7808 mi / 6785 nm.

[Edited 2010-02-04 15:39:04]

User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6383 times:

CX still fly HKG-YVR with the A343 which is 5555nm, 11 hrs 45 min.


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User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6370 times:

What about the MAD-SCL, operated by IB & LA both airlines flying the A343? 6648 mi 10.700 kms, 5777 nm


Quoting coolfish1103 (Reply 4):
An old one for CI would be TPE-JFK 7808 mi / 6785 nm.

does CI really flight that? If yes, what's the restriction on the MTOW?



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User currently offlinecoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6365 times:

They flew it for a short time after they received the leased A340-300 from SQ in 2003/09.

I don't recall the restrictions though.


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6362 times:
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I flew JFK-JNB on SA, just last week.... 12825km, 7969mi, 6925nm  


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User currently offlinecoolfish1103 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6361 times:

http://www.china-airlines.com/en/newsen/newsen000030.htm

China Airlines Launches Dynasty Supreme Class
May 6, 2004, Taipei, Taiwan

China Airlines evolved into a milestone with the completed introduction of Dynasty Supreme Class in all of its self-owned A340-300 aircraft. The retrofit on all self-owned A340-300 will be completed by the end of May.

China Airlines began to upgrade its business class cabin in July 2003 when it introduced the sixth A340-300 aircraft. China Airlines started the retrofit all of its self-owned six A340-300 aircraft beginning in February 2004. A vote among Dynasty Flyer Program members chose the brand Dynasty Supreme Class to reflect the high standards of this superb new business class.

The newly-redesigned Dynasty Supreme Class features a 60-inch pitch and seats that lie almost flat, with a 150 degree recline. The renovated cabin is in a 2-2-2 configuration, with no luggage compartment above the center seats, providing passengers with a sense of spaciousness. Back and seat cushions can be adjusted to conform to individual needs, allowing business travelers to arrive at their destinations in rested comfort.

In addition, each seat has a 10.4-inch touch-screen television, 110V re-charger for PCs, and a satellite phone. With the latest upgrade of the airline's AVOD (Audio Video On Demand) entertainment system, passengers can now choose from more than 20 movie and short feature titles, 30 CDs and 15 video games.

The newly upgraded A340-300s feature 30 seats in Dynasty Supreme Class and 246 seats in economy class. The A340-300 fleet serves Frankfurt, Rome, New York, and Honolulu, and will fly to Seattle and Houston starting June 22.

China Airlines will introduce A330-300 aircraft with the new Dynasty Supreme Class beginning in June. The A330-300 fleet will eventually total 14 aircraft, all featuring the new Dynasty Supreme Class, which will replace the A300-600R aircraft on Asian regional routes. Three of the first new A330-300s will be used on routes from Kaohsiung to Southeast Asia, making China Airlines the only carrier offering an upgraded business class from southern Taiwan.

http://www.china-airlines.com/en/newsen/newsen000150.htm

China Airlines Increases Flights to Seattle, Houston and Rome
December 13, 2004, Taipei, Taiwan

After introducing two Boeing 747-400 passenger jets and one Airbus 330-300 jet in December, China Airlines will increase flight frequencies to Seattle, Houston and Rome, and change to larger aircraft types on several routes, at the beginning of 2005.

The CI 016/015 Taipei-Seattle-Houston route, which was inaugurated just 6 months ago, will be increased from 3 flights to 4 flights per week. The CI 067/068 Taipei-Bangkok-Rome route, with 3 weekly flights, will be increased to 4 weekly flights.

The 276-seat A340-300 aircraft now serving CI 012/011, the Taipei-New York route, will be switched to a B747-400 with 397 seats, an increase in seat capacity of 44%. The thrice-weekly CI 181/182 Taipei-Delhi route will use an A340-300.

China Airlines currently flies to 48 passenger and cargo destinations in 22 nations. By the end of 2004, China Airlines will operate a fleet of 63 modern aircraft, including 47 passenger jets and 16 freighters. The average age of its fleet will be just 5.8 years.

China Airlines Debuts A340-300 In Taipei Today! (by Jiml1126 Apr 28 2001 in Civil Aviation)

The Longest Flight Operated By A340-300? (by Pilot320 Nov 19 2005 in Civil Aviation)

This topic was also discussed 4 years ago on airliners.net.
Apparently the routing is TPE-JFK-ANC-TPE, and lasted for about a year.


User currently offlinepewpew320 From New Zealand, joined Mar 2009, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6312 times:

I think LA operate A343 from SCL - AKL and return that's rather long.

User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6308 times:
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Quoting pewpew320 (Reply 10):
I think LA operate A343 from SCL - AKL and return that's rather long

Yes they do. SCL-AKL = 9674km, 6011mi, 5223nm


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User currently offlinedenklug From Germany, joined Dec 2009, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6239 times:

QUOTE
Yes they do. SCL-AKL = 9674km, 6011mi, 5223nm
UNQUOTE

A little further is AR's EZE-AKL @ 5580nm
Not sure if they do that on A342 or A343 though

[Edited 2010-02-05 15:18:15]


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User currently offlinepewpew320 From New Zealand, joined Mar 2009, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6187 times:

[quote=denklug,reply=12]A little further is AR's EZE-AKL @ 5580nm
Not sure if they do that on A342 or A343 though

A342s iirc, I flew one SYD - AKL.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 38
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6183 times:

Quoting pewpew320 (Reply 15):

Yes, the AR flight AKL-EZE is operated by an A342.



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User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6018 times:

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 8):
I flew JFK-JNB on SA, just last week.... 12825km, 7969mi, 6925nm

Was that on a 343 or a 346? I don't think the 343 has those kind of legs. Heck even a 346 would have to be severely weight restricted for that flight.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

Quoting EA772LR (Reply 15):
Was that on a 343 or a 346? I don't think the 343 has those kind of legs. Heck even a 346 would have to be severely weight restricted for that flight.

They do:

A340-300 = 7,400nm
A340-600 = 7,750nm
A340-600HGW = 7,900nm

Quoting coolfish1103 (Reply 4):
A new one for CI from 28MAR10 would be... TPE-LHR 6091 mi / 5293 nm.

Will they have overflight rights for China, or will they have to route around? I presume that was the original reason for EVA's TPE-BKK-LHR flight taking the BKK stop on a Southerly route.



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User currently offlineEA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6000 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 16):
They do:

A340-300 = 7,400nm

I mean 'real world' range. Not nominal range, because we both know that the OEMs give 'nominal range' with passengers/bags only. An A343 can't fly a 7,000nm scheduled flight with any regularity that hasn't been weight restricted tremendously.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 16):
A340-600 = 7,750nm
A340-600HGW = 7,900nm

Wow. So Airbus added close to another 30,000lbs to the MTOW just to get another 150nm? It's really incredible when you consider a 77W flies a tad bit further, with as more pax and cargo (or at least equal), while hauling around 60,000lbs less 'dead' weight than the A346HGW.



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