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AF's Y More Expensive Than Business!  
User currently offlineaircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1719 posts, RR: 8
Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

I was looking up fares, to comment in FlySSC's thread about AF's summer schedule, and have been flabbergasted.

Just for fun, have a look at the fares on airfrance.com, right now... At the time of writing, 8:52pm in Montreal, saturday March 27th, the "cheapest" YUL-CDG ticket on april 1st is more expensive than the business class on the same day! 2994 USD against 2762 USD. I wonder whether it's a April's Fool joke...

I took screen capture of both fares, but I don't know if I can post them here...

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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4001 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4716 times:
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It isn't the first time that a Y fare is cheaper than a discounted Business Class fare. It happens on more carriers than just AF too.

For whatever reasons, loads to CDG on April 1st are very high. Pick any other departure day within the week and the fare drops by over $1,500.00 in coach.



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User currently offlines4popo From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4706 times:

Airline revenue management doesn't always make sense. The itinerary you looked up is a last-minute airfare so you can throw rationality out the window. I wouldn't be surprised if Coach is sold out, but there's probably plenty of Business class seats available. Just my 2 cents.

User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4671 times:

Sometimes its cheaper to buy Business then it is to buy Economy depending on how busy a flight is.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25332 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4539 times:

You're also best to compare round trip fares. Almost nobody flies just one way and many airlines (except LCCs) don't spend a lot of time fiddling with one way fares since they're so rarely sold.

As others have said, it's not unusual for a Y fare to be higher than J, especially if Y is close to full and only the highest fare bucket is available, while in J there may be many open seats and the lower fare buckets may still be open for sale. Airlines with sophisticated revenue management systems like AF know what they have to do to maximize revenue on the flight.

[Edited 2010-03-27 19:05:57]

User currently offlineCO787EWR From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4460 times:

I've known people who were only traveling one-way but bought round trip tickets since they were significantly cheaper...

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4263 times:

This actually happened to my family once when we were stuck in SJU. There was a pretty bad storm in the area and we had been in PR for about 2 days trying to get out on stand-by. ALL airlines were oversold by 20-30 pax in the back and even DL was showing -3 to -5 in F. We finally decided to buy tickets back and AA's F was cheaper than the walk-up fare in coach. Only Y (or whatever their full fare coach code is) was available and it was about 70-$80 more than their cheapest seats in first so we opted for first for OBVIOUS reasons  


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User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4154 times:

It happened to me. Going to Europe in early Jan (high season in Brazil, two weeks advance purchase). It was cheaper to by C roundtrip than Y. It was a no brainier since Y was very expensive and Biz was selling for under 1.700 EUR.

User currently offlineaircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1719 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

Well, thank you for those comments. I naively never would have expected such a thing... Yet all your explanations make it clear. I think I better understand what "yield management" means now.

User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4001 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3793 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
You're also best to compare round trip fares.

FWIW, the result is the same on a R/T fare that I checked on using the OP's date of departure. It is truly a case of a restricted C cabin ticket being cheaper than a fully flexible Y class ticket.



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