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Checking In Luggage - Two Different Airlines  
User currently offlineogre727 From UK - England, joined Feb 2005, 725 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17233 times:

So my partner is flying on Sunday to Santiago via Madrid (we live in Zurich). I was able to get the MAD-SCL-MAD on my LAN points, and I had to buy a separate ticket on IB for the ZRH-MAD-ZRH segment.

I just started to wonder if it's at all possible to check his luggage from ZRH all the way to SCL even though he is traveling on separate airlines, and separate tickets, or if he'll have to collect his luggage in MAD and check it in again in LAN?

My question is not only about his trip, but in general... are there country-specific rules on this topic? have they changed after 9/11? I remember doing this in the US long time ago... but maybe this has changed... comments?


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User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17201 times:

Quoting ogre727 (Thread starter):
I just started to wonder if it's at all possible to check his luggage from ZRH all the way to SCL even though he is traveling on separate airlines, and separate tickets, or if he'll have to collect his luggage in MAD and check it in again in LAN?

When he checks in in ZRH ask for it to be tagged to the final destination, make sure he has the details for the onward flights with him so they can enter in what's called the on carriage.

It can be checked thru to the final destination because both airlines are in the One World Alliance and that is part of the One World Agreement.
JUST in case, make sure he says that to IB staff in ZRH, sometimes people "forget" it is part of the Alliance agreement for thru checking onto carriers in the alliance on separate tickets.


User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17052 times:

Quoting LHR380 (Reply 1):
It can be checked thru to the final destination because both airlines are in the One World Alliance and that is part of the One World Agreement.

While it is probably true that all alliance airlines have interline agreements, you can have a trip on two carriers of different (or no) alliances, and still be able to interline. Not always, but sometimes.

Examples:

I fly from Nassau to Berlin at least once a year, but am not terribly loyal to any one airline, so over the years, I have flown many different itineraries, usually going for the cheapest (family of four, this summer that amounts to savings of $1,200.00 compared to the next cheapest option).

I have been able to check the bags all the way using the following combinations:

AA & DL (no alliance)
AA & BA

I have *not* been able to do it on the following:

B6 & FI
SN & AA (despite their cooperation, the folks at THF just couldn't convince their computer to do it)

This summer it's a combination of DE & LH, and I assume it will work, provided their ground handlers in Nassau know what they're doing...



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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17041 times:

As noted in the earlier post having the details for the second segment will be important (airline, flight number, times). I was able to do this when flying JFK-CDG-JNB on AF with onward JNB-LVI on SA. It took some details to help the AF staff complete the process, though they were doing their best.

On the upside the bags made it just fine.



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User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17029 times:

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 2):

AA&BA of course due to Oneworld  


User currently offlinesignol From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 3024 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 16929 times:

I was not able to through check luggage from IB to BA, on two separate tickets JHR-MAD-JNB on IB and JNB-DUR on BA - I wrote a trip report a few years ago.
LHR-MAD-JNB-DUR On Iberia And British Airways (Com (by Signol Jan 10 2008 in Trip Reports)

However I was able to through check from HKG-BKK on China Airlines, then BKK-LHR on Qantas.

signol



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 16924 times:

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 2):
While it is probably true that all alliance airlines have interline agreements, you can have a trip on two carriers of different (or no) alliances, and still be able to interline. Not always, but sometimes.

I've done it with AC and QF.

Also according to Wikipedia AC code shares with QF on some flights, I just can't imagine what (possibly SFO-SYD)



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User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1785 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 16898 times:

Quoting signol (Reply 5):
I was not able to through check luggage from IB to BA, on two separate tickets JHR-MAD-JNB on IB and JNB-DUR on BA - I wrote a trip report a few years ago.
LHR-MAD-JNB-DUR On Iberia And British Airways (Com (by Signol Jan 10 2008 in Trip Reports)

However I was able to through check from HKG-BKK on China Airlines, then BKK-LHR on Qantas.

That is probably because JNB-DUR is not flown by BA itself, but by the Comair (South Africa) affiliate - which likely doesn't have a functioning interline system with IB or many others beyond BA.

You should be fine - the IB connections are too critical a part of LAN's robust and longstanding MAD network (SCL, LIM, GYE, FRA) for them not to have that interlining firmly in place. Just make sure you have a print-out of your LAN flight when checking in at ZRH.

Incidentally, I just did the same thing last week when flying TXL-LHR on BA - as I had an onward connection to MIA on AA and got my bags tagged and sent all the way through to Florida by the BA counter in Berlin.

Just make sure the connection is at least an hour for them to transfer your bags, since even though they use the same terminal 4 at MAD the baggage handling there is not the fastest or efficient in Europe.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25983 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 16886 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 6):
Also according to Wikipedia AC code shares with QF on some flights, I just can't imagine what (possibly SFO-SYD)

I don't think that's correct.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5732 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16872 times:

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 2):
While it is probably true that all alliance airlines have interline agreements, you can have a trip on two carriers of different (or no) alliances, and still be able to interline. Not always, but sometimes.

All the legacy carriers have interline agreements, however for thru checking outside of an alliance you must have all segments on the same ticket number.

For example, if you buy one ticket on BA, and another on DL, you cannot thru-check your bags from one to the other.

However, if you bought one ticket on DL and another on AF, they would be able to check you in for all segments and tag your bag to the final destination.

Quoting LHR380 (Reply 1):

It can be checked thru to the final destination because both airlines are in the One World Alliance and that is part of the One World Agreement.

And I've learned something new today. Thanks!



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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 16872 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 9):
All the legacy carriers have interline agreements, however for thru checking outside of an alliance you must have all segments on the same ticket number.

I respectfully disagree. As noted in my earlier post I was able to interline bags from a skyteam ticket (DL issued, op by AF) to a *A ticket (SA). These were on different reservations. The AF desk was able to confirm the flight details that I presented and promptly checked the bags JFK-CDG-JNB-LVI. All with 12 hrs in Paris and 4 in JNB. The check in at JNB was handled at the SA transfer desk and I just presented the stubs for the checked baggage and they confirmed that the transfer was fine.



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5732 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 16850 times:

Quoting planeguy727 (Reply 10):
The AF desk was able to confirm the flight details that I presented and promptly checked the bags JFK-CDG-JNB-LVI.

I'm curious, did they print out a regular bag tag or did they have to hand write it?



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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16798 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 11):
I'm curious, did they print out a regular bag tag or did they have to hand write it?

It was the standard printed bag tag (3 bags actually). Because of my concerns I check that it had the correct transfers and flights noted. All was good with final destination LVI. And I was quite pleased to see the bags arrive correctly in LVI.



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User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16793 times:

Quoting signol (Reply 5):
I was not able to through check luggage from IB to BA, on two separate tickets JHR-MAD-JNB on IB and JNB-DUR on BA - I wrote a trip report a few years ago.

Should have done, as I said, sometimes people will tell you no, when really it should be yes.

Quoting OP3000 (Reply 7):
That is probably because JNB-DUR is not flown by BA itself, but by the Comair (South Africa) affiliate - which likely doesn't have a functioning interline system with IB or many others beyond BA.

Should not matter, I thru check onto them all the time, they are in essence BA.


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1785 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16787 times:

Quoting TransIsland (Reply 2):
This summer it's a combination of DE & LH, and I assume it will work, provided their ground handlers in Nassau know what they're doing...

Yep - if you're at a remote station the ground staff can often be out of the loop on how to process such things. Like when I went to the AA counters at LRM recently to try to get a paper ticket I had lost re-issued. Took me calling the customer service number in the USA, and getting a very competent rep to explain to the ticket counter agents at LRM how to do it on the computer.

Quoting LHR380 (Reply 13):

Should not matter, I thru check onto them all the time, they are in essence BA.

Flying airlines other than BA and on separate tickets? I believe that was the case mentioned earlier by signol.


User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16769 times:

Quoting OP3000 (Reply 14):
Flying airlines other than BA and on separate tickets? I believe that was the case mentioned earlier by signol.

Comair is part of the BA network, that should not matter, and there should have been no reason why IB would not have thru checked. I will double check at work today.


User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 16762 times:

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 9):
All the legacy carriers have interline agreements, however for thru checking outside of an alliance you must have all segments on the same ticket number.

For example, if you buy one ticket on BA, and another on DL, you cannot thru-check your bags from one to the other.

sorry but you're wrong. I do this regularly and never has any trouble, except once AC (YGP-YUL) to AF (YUL-CDG) on 2 separate tickets and AC agent refused to do it. It seems AC has a crazy policy refusing to do that outside *A carriers.


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 16741 times:

Quoting goldorak (Reply 16):
sorry but you're wrong. I do this regularly and never has any trouble, except once AC (YGP-YUL) to AF (YUL-CDG) on 2 separate tickets and AC agent refused to do it. It seems AC has a crazy policy refusing to do that outside *A carriers.

Was this a Jazz flight because they might not have the ability to do it at YGB.

I think AC has to have an agreement with the airline to interline baggage because they did it for me to connect in SFO with QF (probably with a few workarounds by the check in agent at YYZ).

However I was flying this year YYZ-LAX-NAN on an NZ ticket code shared with FJ out of LAX and they couldn't check it through because of not having an agreement with FJ and also the length of a the layover was an apparent concern for holding luggage at a US airport due to 9/11. Which I think is garbage because there was someone I met on the same flight connecting to Australia on a UA flight leaving at the same time (now I know that this is a true *A connection but her luggage would have been held for the same amount of time)



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User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16710 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 17):
Was this a Jazz flight because they might not have the ability to do it at YGB.

I think AC has to have an agreement with the airline to interline baggage because they did it for me to connect in SFO with QF (probably with a few workarounds by the check in agent at YYZ).

However I was flying this year YYZ-LAX-NAN on an NZ ticket code shared with FJ out of LAX and they couldn't check it through because of not having an agreement with FJ and also the length of a the layover was an apparent concern for holding luggage at a US airport due to 9/11. Which I think is garbage because there was someone I met on the same flight connecting to Australia on a UA flight leaving at the same time (now I know that this is a true *A connection but her luggage would have been held for the same amount of time)

yes, it was an AC Jazz flight operating a multi-segment flight : Madeleine islands-YGP-YQB-YUL


User currently offlineogre727 From UK - England, joined Feb 2005, 725 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 16689 times:

just came back from the airport... they did it!!! His bags are checked all the way to SCL!!!!


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