DID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1 Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2116 times:
Hello,
I have to prepare a trip to the Pacific, but it seems Hawaiian is the only airline to fly beetween the two towns. I would like to know if Hawaiian has any partnership with other airlines please?
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
I do not believe HA481/482, the HNL-PPT-HNL routing (operating right now on Fridays by a B763), has a code-share partner, if that's what you are asking.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 22057 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2019 times:
I'm not sure what do you mean by partnership, but the HNL-PPT flight is not code-shared by anyone.
Overall its a pretty tiny market between Hawaii and Tahiti. If you are looking for added flight options to PPT then you need to back track to LAX where Air Tahiti Nui has daily flights and Air France several times per week.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
sw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2011 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 2):
Overall its a pretty tiny market between Hawaii and Tahiti.
To be honest, I am surprised there is any. I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?
PacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 839 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2001 times:
Quoting sw733 (Reply 3): To be honest, I am surprised there is any. I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?
Not quite. There are a few people in Hawaii who take vacations in French Polynesia (my uncle, for one). Also, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) do missionary work throughout Polynesia (which includes Hawaii). There is a branch of Brigham Young University in Hawaii with a large contingent of students from throughout Polynesia. There are also researchers and academics who travel between Hawaii and the rest of Polynesia. Finally, there is some visiting friends and relative travel between Hawaii and elsewhere in Polynesia. Not a huge market for travel between Honolulu and Papeete of course, but the HNL–PPT market is not entirely dependent on mainland connections.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 22057 posts, RR: 51 Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2000 times:
Quoting sw733 (Reply 3): I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?
Yes HA tries hard to sell connections from places like SEA/SFO etc.
Over the years they have offered free Hawaii stopovers, and even at times a pair of free interisland tickets for those that buy mainland-Tahiti on them.
Looking at their historical LF (60-70%) the single flight probably hangs on by a thread.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21493 posts, RR: 24 Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1998 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5): Quoting sw733 (Reply 3):
I can only imagine it feeds off west coasters going to Tahiti?
Yes HA tries hard to sell connections from places like SEA/SFO etc.
From SEA, routing via HNL to PPT isn't too devious, about 300nm further than SEA-LAX-PPT, but from SFO it's about 600nm further, and from LAX, a connection via HNL is over 1000nm further than nonstop.
PacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 839 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1975 times:
Back in the 1980s both Continental and UTA operated non-stop flights between Honolulu and Papeete. In fact, I was on the inaugural flight on Continental from PPT to HNL in the summer of 1987. The flight was operated with a DC-10 and there were 36 passengers on that first flight. I don't believe Continental operated that flight for very long. My understanding is that Hawaiian actually was doing research on the feasibility of the HNL–PPT market at that time. I believe it was not long after when HA started flying the route and CO pulled out. Not sure when UTA stopped flying the route (I think it was quite some time before the merger with Air France).
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21493 posts, RR: 24 Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1965 times:
Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 7): I was on the inaugural flight on Continental from PPT to HNL in the summer of 1987. The flight was operated with a DC-10 and there were 36 passengers on that first flight. I don't believe Continental operated that flight for very long.
PPT is on CO's June 1989 Pacific route map (below) but only from LAX, not from HNL, so HNL-PPT must have been dropped sometime between 1987 and 1989. PPT is gone completely from the June 1991 route map.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 22057 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1869 times:
Quoting Mortyman (Reply 9): I thought Air New Zealand made a stop in HNL on it's way to PPT on certain routes ?
Not any more.
Air NZ withdrew from PPT on the Pacific route. Today they offer twice weekly AKL-PPT service, while HNL gets a stand alone AKL-HNL flight also twice weekly.
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