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Air Canada's Comfort Plus Cabin  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12210 posts, RR: 18
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10444 times:
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While looking on ACs web-site, I see that AC have some B763s fitted with Comfort Plus seats instead of normal AC international J seats. I was wondering if AC is thinking of installing comfort plus on their domestic aircraft?

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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10255 times:

I think there are 3 (?) odd-ball 763s that don't have the international J seats (pods0 installed, but have the older domestic J class seats. IIRC these a/c are deployed on lower-yield routes and the Comfort Class cabin is the domestic J seating sold at a premium over Y, but with Y cabin service.


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User currently offlineKaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 3033 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9986 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 1):
IIRC these a/c are deployed on lower-yield routes

  
They're deployed on lower-yield seasonals - YUL/YYZ - BCN/ATH and YYZ - DUB this summer. Are these the last ex-CP 763s in the fleet?



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User currently offlineLonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5051 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 9947 times:

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 2):
They're deployed on lower-yield seasonals - YUL/YYZ - BCN/ATH and YYZ - DUB this summer. Are these the last ex-CP 763s in the fleet?

No, they are not exCP, they were an oddball lease when capacity was needed.

In the winter, they are used on low yield vacation type markets. The "Comfort Plus" cabin is to compete with Air Transat and its Club product.



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User currently offlinewhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9573 times:

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 2):
Are these the last ex-CP 763s in the fleet?

The majority of the AC B763 fleet is ex-CP except for these 3. AC only 6 B763s at the time of the CP takeover.


User currently offlineN43W79 From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9231 times:

Quoting whiteguy (Reply 4):

Actually Air Canada's 30 763s:

631-636 Air Canada (6)
656-657 Air Canada (2)
658-661 Air Canada (4)
687, 689, 690 Kenya (3) ---> Aircraft with Comfort Plus

637-642 Canadian (6)
645-648 Canadian (4) via other carriers.
681-685 Canadian (5)


User currently offlinepnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2248 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9180 times:

The comfort plus are lease aircraft as stated above, and were deemed to be shorter term than warranting a full XM upgrade with the layflat J class Pods and full entertainment Y screens. I presume they will be among the first to go when the 787's arrive or shortly thereafter. The seats are the old J Class domestic seats so 6 across and comfortable enough but wouldn't cut it on YYZ to LHR or YVR to Asia.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12210 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8885 times:
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Thanks for the answers so far. I'm looking at booking Vancouver - Toronto on AC later this year and was wondering ig AC had any plans to create a Y+ type product on its domestic/long haul fleet.

User currently offlinewhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8004 times:

Quoting N43W79 (Reply 5):
Actually Air Canada's 30 763s:

631-636 Air Canada (6)
656-657 Air Canada (2)
658-661 Air Canada (4)
687, 689, 690 Kenya (3) ---> Aircraft with Comfort Plus

637-642 Canadian (6)
645-648 Canadian (4) via other carriers.
681-685 Canadian (5)

Fins 658-661 were actually ordered by CP originally prior to the takeover in 2000. That's why they have GEs instead of PW's and received the AC code. When AC took over CP they only had 631-636 in the fleet.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 7):
I'm looking at booking Vancouver - Toronto on AC later this year and was wondering ig AC had any plans to create a Y+ type product on its domestic/long haul fleet.

They just reconfigured their whole fleet in the XM project, I don't think they're going to do it all over again.


User currently offlineKaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 3033 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7877 times:

Quoting whiteguy (Reply 8):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 7):
I'm looking at booking Vancouver - Toronto on AC later this year and was wondering ig AC had any plans to create a Y+ type product on its domestic/long haul fleet.

They just reconfigured their whole fleet in the XM project, I don't think they're going to do it all over again.

  

If you decide to spring for J, make sure you book it on one of the flights from Oz/Asia - YVR - YYZ and you'll get the lie flat pods.



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User currently offlinepnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2248 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7862 times:

With the exception of the couple of 763's that haven't been XM'd the complete widebody fleet has lie flat J Class. So you can have one even on the YYZ to YUL 55 minute route if you choose a widebody.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12210 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7635 times:
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Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 9):

I would be arriving on NZ and most likly via LAX so I can try the E190


User currently offlineheavy747 From Canada, joined Mar 2000, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7559 times:

Quoting pnwtraveler (Reply 10):
So you can have one even on the YYZ to YUL 55 minute route if you choose a widebody

Yes, I have flown quite a few times between YYZ and YUL in a widebody with the international J product.



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User currently offlinebeechnut From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 726 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7348 times:

Quoting whiteguy (Reply 8):
Fins 658-661 were actually ordered by CP originally prior to the takeover in 2000. That's why they have GEs instead of PW's and received the AC code. When AC took over CP they only had 631-636 in the fleet.

Actually their code is 767-36NER. Leased from GECAS. The GECAS customer code is 6N

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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3385 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 7265 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 11):
I would be arriving on NZ and most likly via LAX so I can try the E190

If you are going to go LAX-YYZ then not likely as that is usually operated with an A319 or A320 and sometimes the occasional 763, however you could get on one from SAN or SNA to YYZ.

If you are planning on flying LAX-YVR then I think that has at least a couple of E190's operating that route each day.



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12210 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7160 times:
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Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 14):
If you are planning on flying LAX-YVR then I think that has at least a couple of E190's operating that route each day.

Yes LAX-YVR. All of NZs codeshares with AC from LAX-YVR are on the E190


User currently offlinewhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6897 times:

Quoting beechnut (Reply 13):
Actually their code is 767-36NER. Leased from GECAS. The GECAS customer code is 6N

Where did you get this info? Everything I've read shows 658-661 and 631-636 listed as B767-333s. There are no B767s listed with the 6N code.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6770 times:

Quoting whiteguy (Reply 16):
Quoting beechnut (Reply 13):
Actually their code is 767-36NER. Leased from GECAS. The GECAS customer code is 6N

Where did you get this info? Everything I've read shows 658-661 and 631-636 listed as B767-333s. There are no B767s listed with the 6N code.

Not sure what aircraft you are referring to, but the 3 763s with the non-standard cabin and door layout and which did not undergo the XM conversion are the 3 767-3YOs, C-GHPD/PF/PH, shown below.


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AC's 767-36Ns are C-GHLQ, C-GHLT, C-GHLU, C-GHLV.


User currently offlinewhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6745 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 17):
AC's 767-36Ns are C-GHLQ, C-GHLT, C-GHLU, C-GHLV.

These aircraft are all B767-333s not 36Ns. They were originally delivered to AC in 2001. They may have since been sold to GEACS and leased back by AC but that does not change the original code!


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25626 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6727 times:

Quoting whiteguy (Reply 18):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 17):
AC's 767-36Ns are C-GHLQ, C-GHLT, C-GHLU, C-GHLV.

These aircraft are all B767-333s not 36Ns. They were originally delivered to AC in 2001. They may have since been sold to GEACS and leased back by AC but that does not change the original code!

The fleet list I referred to (Airfleets.net) must have the wrong code.


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