uta999 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 85 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5362 times:
Air France may have started something here.
Last weekend I joined the first AF A380 service from LHR to CDG. Billed as a limited crew training exercise for the summer this could prove to be a turning point for the A380. It is becoming a modern day Concorde, turning heads and getting ordinary people's attention not seen for a while. People want to fly in it, but not necessarily long distances.
Airbus need to look at this and build a basic $250m short haul version and offer to lease them in large numbers. It needs to have a cabin layout with no IFE or options for airlines to change, other than the number of classes available. The daft airline customisation of the A380 has nearly killed it and Airbus, as has Hamburg.
If handled correctly the A380 could become the B747 of 1970s. A plane for everyone rather than just the long haul elite. Airports need to be less worried about the A380 and it's size too. AF this week proved it is as agile as an A320 by starting the take-off roll on 27L just 300m from the gate; from the S4 intersection with 538 passengers on board! We climbed out of London like an excited puppy and even on arrival at CDG it cornered like it was on rails. The French are fearless creatures.
jlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5007 times:
Didn't Boeing just postpone indefinitely, the "short haul" 787-3 Dream-liner? What were Boeing's reasons for this delay, and do any of their reasons match the problems anticipated with a short haul Airbus A380?
jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4654 times:
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As said they could do an A380SP type of jet. They would probably want to keep the IFE though. The A380 has been always been shown to be a large yet almost luxurious jet. Removing the IFE just makes it a whale jet. I think short haul though it would only work on a few routes. Like the LHR-CDG route. Maybe it would work on JFK-LAX. But not too many more routes would be able to take such a big increase.
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Only 14 Concordes in service for how many A380s and how many more to come?
The A380 is just another airplane, only it is much bigger.
In a few years no one will turn their heads seeing an A380. They will become common fare.
Concorde was loved. She turned heads from thte very first take off to her very last landing and still gets heaps of visitors in the different museums and millions now wishing they would have experienced what it was like to fly on her.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4175 times:
Quoting superfly (Reply 9): The A380 is the most beautiful and amazing aircraft to come out since the A340.
Your current taste in aircraft reflects your taste in women! hahaha.
Personally, I think the A380 was always going to be a niche aircraft (long-haul, high capacity). A short-haul "domestic" version might work in Asia (although the A380 hasn't sold very well there, yet), but it would never be successful in Europe where low-cost airlines are king, or in the USA, where passengers and airlines depend on frequency rather than capacity.
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Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40300 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 4168 times:
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 10): Personally, I think the A380 was always going to be a niche aircraft (long-haul, high capacity). A short-haul "domestic" version might work in Asia (although the A380 hasn't sold very well there, yet), but it would never be successful in Europe where low-cost airlines are king, or in the USA, where passengers and airlines depend on frequency rather than capacity.
I am purely going by aesthetics. Not concerned about the economics.