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Europe - USA -first Arrival Of The Day?  
User currently offlineRichie72 From Sweden, joined Sep 2007, 103 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6938 times:

Hi folks.

This may have been asked before but what is the first arrival of the day (scheduled flight) from Europe to anywhere on mainland USA/Canada?

Is see AF22 CDG -JFK arrives at 10h20 - do any arrive earlier or is this one of the first?

Is there a complete list of all flights over the Atlantic on any particular day anywhere on the net?

Many thanks

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User currently offlineDAL763ER From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6839 times:
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I assume you're right. AF22 may be the earliest to arrive on US soil. The earliest flight from LHR to JFK arrives at 11-ish.


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User currently offlinetommy212 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6740 times:

from just a quick search AAL099 LHR - ORD beats AFR022 by 5mins. arrives at ORD at 10h20am

User currently offlinebananaboy From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1574 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6740 times:

UA923 LHR/IAD is also an early arrival, schuled in at 1040 daily.

Haven't seen anything earlier than AF22, unless you consider Israel to be Europe...

CO91 arrives EWR from TLV at 04.25.

Mark

[Edited 2010-08-14 02:28:41]


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User currently offlineDAL763ER From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6734 times:
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Quoting tommy212 (Reply 2):
from just a quick search AAL099 LHR - ORD beats AFR022 by 5mins. arrives at ORD at 10h20am

Not exactly. ORD is 1 hour behind JFK, so it actually arrives 55 minutes after AFR022.



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User currently offlineAirMale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6719 times:

I thought one of the earliest was SQ026 from Frankfurt to JFK arrival 10h55..... which is still quite early.


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User currently offlinetommy212 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6696 times:

if you want to include the regular USAF troop charters these would beat them all:

RD0341 LEJ - DFW 03:45AM - 07:00AM
WO8529 LEJ - BGR 12:30AM - 01:40AM


User currently offlineicna05e From France, joined Feb 2006, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6581 times:

I guess this is because, while being just a little farther away than London, Paris is in a timezone that allows "early" departures to be 1 hour earlier. Maybe the city that would have the best chance in this case would be Lisbon, being 400km closer and still in the same timezone, but I guess the O/D doesn't need an early departure.

User currently offlinetripple7 From Netherlands, joined Aug 1999, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6539 times:

Close to the AF022 is DL 272 from AMS to DTW, which arrives @ DTW at 10:35 AM

User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

Quoting tommy212 (Reply 2):
from just a quick search AAL099 LHR - ORD beats AFR022 by 5mins. arrives at ORD at 10h20am

And UA945 FRA-ORD arrives just 15 minutes later. Departure FRA at 08h25 (=the first departure from FRA to the USA), arriving ORD 10h35


User currently offlineRichie72 From Sweden, joined Sep 2007, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6352 times:

Thanks for all your replies everyone...

Looks like (by fluke) I happened to mention the earliest arrival after all onto US soil.  

Makes me wonder then what the latest arrival is - latest i have found so far is VS17 LHR -EWR arriving at 23h10 but then I havent taken into account the 3 hour time diff with the West coast so maybe something else beats Virgin 17 !

Cheers....


User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6327 times:

What about the other way around? Which is the earliest arrival in Europe?

[Edited 2010-08-14 04:13:31]

User currently offlineLufthansa411 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6199 times:

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 11):
What about the other way around? Which is the earliest arrival in Europe?

Ethiopian's flight from IAD-FCO is scheduled to get in a 00:40 in the morning.



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User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6122 times:

Quoting Lufthansa411 (Reply 12):
Ethiopian's flight from IAD-FCO is scheduled to get in a 00:40 in the morning.

lol, hard to beat that one...  



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User currently offlinetonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5985 times:

Interesting how different cultures work. Brazil - US flights arrive as early as ~4:50am

User currently offlinemiaintl From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1017 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5915 times:

On a seperate note, does anyone know were one can find out about an airlines future scheduling, for example like knowing when an airline's summer 2011 schedule would be updated? Would hostesses and stewardess know?

User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2131 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5855 times:

Quoting Lufthansa411 (Reply 12):
Ethiopian's flight from IAD-FCO

....and for Europe to USA, the FCO to IAD flight (ETH500) arrives around 07:45 local time, much earlier than AFR022.



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User currently offlinebhmdiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5820 times:

I have yo all beat... DL 272 from AMS - DTW comes in at 1019am today!

FLT INFO 272/14AUG
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AMS 800A 753A 832A 333
DTW 1035A 1019A

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User currently offlineRichie72 From Sweden, joined Sep 2007, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5789 times:

Quoting bhmdiversion (Reply 17):
I have yo all beat... DL 272 from AMS - DTW comes in at 1019am today!

 
I think AF22 will make it first today - its over BGR now with less than 50 mins to run.unless there are ATC delays.....

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR22


User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1302 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5668 times:

Sorry guys, but you're all wrong. The earliest arrivals will be from either DHL, FedEx or UPS, departing and thus arriving way earlier than any of the inferior passenger carrying airlines, in order to be able to make deliveries before noon.


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

A shame the Concorde isn't still flying. That would have had everyone beat.

User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1302 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 20):
A shame the Concorde isn't still flying. That would have had everyone beat.

.... except for the aforementioned freight carriers.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19188 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4863 times:

Did a two-minute search, and the winner thus far is LH8188 that departed FRA at 0220 and arrived ORD 0423. This is based on the 13th August and www.flightstats.com

Other early cargo arrivals (on the same date and from the same site) include:

FX101 that departed CDG at 0259 and arrived MEM at 0431.

A DHL machine that departed LEJ at 0325 and arrived JFK 0515.

An LH M1F that departed FRA at 0340 and arrived JFK 0534.

An ABX 76F that departed LGG at 0453 and arrived JFK at 0627.

Any arrival earlier than 0423?

[Edited 2010-08-14 08:00:13]


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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3938 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4681 times:

Quoting icna05e (Reply 7):
Maybe the city that would have the best chance in this case would be Lisbon, being 400km closer and still in the same timezone, but I guess the O/D doesn't need an early departure.

Lisbon is in the same time-zone as London, not Paris... you're right about the O/D, though, no need for anything that early (although depending on their connecting banks at EWR and PHL, CO and US might be able to pull it off).



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6299 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4116 times:

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 14):
Interesting how different cultures work

Not so much a cultural factor as a time zone factor...


User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 11):
What about the other way around? Which is the earliest arrival in Europe?

For conventional overnight USA-Europe passenger service, DLH 417 (IAD-FRA) will be the first to land in Europe at about 5:10 local time. For an earlier local time that is actually later, BAW 212 will land at LHR at about 4:50 local time (almost an hour later than DLH 417).

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH417
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW212


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