cvg2lga From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 595 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3080 times:
In a video I watched on Youtube the Upper Deck of the 747-400 has six seats across. Is this standard seating on all of AF's 744's or just high density leisure routes?
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23 Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3057 times:
It's the same on all. The upper deck also has about 2 inches greater seat pitch than the main deck. It's by far the best Y class product on any 747 I've flown on. I think AF now restricts the upper deck to their elite frequent flyers, or to those who pay a surcharge for the more spacious seating.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14411 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2896 times:
cvg2lga From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 595 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2855 times:
Thanks for the info. Now I have another question: why does AF have Y seating upstairs? Is this common for other airlines too? I've always been under the impression that F/J seating would be upstairs.
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BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14411 posts, RR: 26 Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2843 times:
Quoting cvg2lga (Reply 3): I've always been under the impression that F/J seating would be upstairs.
Many carriers do put business there, but there are examples of operators putting each class up there. Lufthansa puts first there, many others put business there, and Air France, Air Pacific, and probably others put coach there. That said, I've found the nose section of the 747 to be just about the nicest place to spend a flight, so if you're flying in business, that is a plus for LH or a two class carrier.
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cvg2lga From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 595 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2742 times:
I have to agree with you there. I've been in the back, in the nose and upstairs (NW/DL) nothing beats the front. But if we have to sit in the back hopefully it is either in an exit row or by the lav with an aisle seat lol
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21679 posts, RR: 23 Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2737 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4): Quoting cvg2lga (Reply 3):
I've always been under the impression that F/J seating would be upstairs.
Many carriers do put business there, but there are examples of operators putting each class up there. Lufthansa puts first there, many others put business there, and Air France, Air Pacific, and probably others put coach there. That said, I've found the nose section of the 747 to be just about the nicest place to spend a flight, so if you're flying in business, that is a plus for LH or a two class carrier.
When Swissair took delivery of their 747-300s they had 69 Y class seats upstairs. They had no business class then, just F and Y (and SR's inflight service in Y, apart from the seat, was better than many of today's J products). When SR introduced business class they replaced the 6-abreast Y seats upstairs with 4-abreast J seats.
AC and CP Air both had Y class seats on the upper deck of their 747-200s at one time.
The high-density 747-400Ds used by JL and NH on domestic routes in Japan have over 80 Y class seats on the upper deck.
goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1677 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2483 times:
Quoting cvg2lga (Thread starter): In a video I watched on Youtube the Upper Deck of the 747-400 has six seats across. Is this standard seating on all of AF's 744's or just high density leisure routes?
6 abreast at UD is certainly not a high density configuration just by itself. AF Y class at UD of the 747 is a great product with a lot of space.
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4): That said, I've found the nose section of the 747 to be just about the nicest place to spend a flight, so if you're flying in business, that is a plus for LH or a two class carrier.
I agree with you. AF has also part of the J class in the nose section and it's a very nice place
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 60 Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2451 times:
Quoting cvg2lga (Reply 3): why does AF have Y seating upstairs?
AF used to have J seats upstairs in the B744 when they still had a First Class.
The First Class was on the main deck in the "nose", then Business upstairs and main deck between doors 1 and 2 and then economy.
When AF removed the F class from the B744 (and also from the A343 & A332), then the "nose" was fitted with J seats and the upper deck with Y.
This is also why all the AF B744 have PTV in Y at he upper deck : as it was previously a J Class, there was already all the wire connections required for PTV ...
LAX888 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2010, 257 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2445 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 4): That said, I've found the nose section of the 747 to be just about the nicest place to spend a flight, so if you're flying in business, that is a plus for LH or a two class carrier.
I guess it depends. I flew LH in C class in the nose section and behind the nose section and found the seats to be a bit cramped in the nose section. Especially in the first and second row as the fuselage becomes narrow. I still prefer UD seating in C.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14411 posts, RR: 26 Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2410 times:
Quoting goldorak (Reply 8): AF has also part of the J class in the nose section and it's a very nice place
It certainly is. And it's the best place for quiet, except for the vibration of the nose gear in sharp turns.
Quoting LAX888 (Reply 10): I flew LH in C class in the nose section and behind the nose section and found the seats to be a bit cramped in the nose section.
I found the opposite on Air France. Row 1 might not have been the best but row 2 was great. There was about 8 inches to a foot of extra space between the window seat and the wall which was great for storing the pillow and blanket. Plus the closet in the front is nice to have, not to mention that people aren't passing through all the time. And if you're travelling alone, it would probably be great to have the throne in the middle. (I like a window, but there isn't much to see on a red eye flight anyway)
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