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User currently offlineEstick From Argentina, joined Jan 2001, 46 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 9 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

I guess this topic must have been posted before, or at least a similar one. Which is the approach pilots consider as the most difficult on airports nowadays???

I'll be looking forward to trying it on FS2004! jeje

Greetings.

Estick

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User currently offlinePetazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

St. Barths! That one is very Tricky. Also, there is one at Courchevel Altiport that is difficult.

User currently offlineMd11lover From Switzerland, joined Oct 2003, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 hours ago) and read 4310 times:



Hey guys! Been away for a while but now im back and looking forward to some interesting chats. Anyway, back to the topic, hard approaches for pilots :

TGU - Short runway, high terrain in surrounding areas. Pilots need special training for landing at TGU. Spectacular as a passenger though.

I ve heard some approaches in Alaska and Austria are quite tough as well.

Md11lover



User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Any NDB approach with a crosswind.

User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 hours ago) and read 4246 times:

I must agree with Petazulu. St. Barts probably is one of the top 5 tricky airports out there. And yes, a special rating/training is required to fly in there. How such training is conducted is beyond me!


You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 hours ago) and read 4194 times:

It's hard to pin it down to one. Here are a couple:

- Kai Tak. Yes I know it no longer exists. Anyway I got to try it in a CAE full motion simulator. Greased the 762!!!
- Funchal
- Innsbruck
- Faro (Bhutan)
- Courchevel
- Any number of Norwegian airports.


This site gives a lot of interesting info and has a comprehensive list: http://www.dangerous-airports.com/. It's primarily geared towards FS but does contain approach plates and so on. Click on "DAD" in the left margin for a list.



[Edited 2004-08-31 19:19:37]


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User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

I always thought this was a tough one, but I did not see it on the list at DAD.


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

Here it is on the DAD: http://www.dangerous-airports.com/airports/t/tncm.htm

"Rwy 09/27 length 7054'."




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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

hows tncm hard? Fly in straight, no terrain, beautiful scenery.....its easy if you ask me. And a steep turn after takeoff, Thats at many places.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 9, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 4028 times:

Not a pilot but I would agree. There are much harder approaches.


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3814 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 4004 times:

I nominate KCRW. Hills, valleys, windshear


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 3999 times:

I been told Lugano is one of the most challenging in the world.

N


User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3624 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Canarsie Approach into JFK would have to be up there. Maybe the expressway visual into LGA too.


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

JFK. All those darned NIMBYS you have to resist the temptation of divebombing Big grin


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User currently offlineDens From Switzerland, joined Sep 2001, 309 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

Hi,

Sion airport in the Swiss Alps has a very difficult approach. Pilots needs a special license. This airport is essentially a military base, but there are some flights to LHR, LGW, PRG and ZRH in winter.


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Lugano, is quite impressive as well....






User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 4 hours ago) and read 3936 times:

KSAN, San Diego Intl, California, ranks up there for the US. As you're on the approach, you're window-level with the office buildings a few thousand feet on either side...pretty dang neat to see people staring at you in your 767! Also it's not that long of a runway, so you've got to stop, and fast...

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 hours ago) and read 3851 times:

Does anyone have any information on Cuzco, Peru (CUZ)? I'm not a pilot but I'm told that the pilot has to bank the plane between two mountains (because it wouldn't fit horizontally, at least not safely) and then drop the bird on the runway, in a sort of "one shot deal" approach, with no ILS available. All of this is done at around 12,000 feet above sea level.
If you haven't done the landing and takeoff, you cannot imagine it.
FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8135 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 hours ago) and read 3804 times:

SAN's runway is plenty long Delta - it just has one monster of a displaced threshold  Big grin


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User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

Blackbird1331, SXM is the easiest airport to get into. Getting out is the tricky part!

Secondly, I was reading something here the other day about an airport somewhere is South America, Brazil is think it is, thats like 5000ft(just a guess) long. Aircraft barely come within inches of the fence to land. I must dig that up...



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User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3574 times:

Funchal must be a notoriously difficult approach, one miscalculation and the aircraft could topple over the runway, mounted on pillars, into the sea.

Several years back it was reported that the chief pilot of an unnamed British airline nearly missed the approach and his airline subsequently banned all further flights into Funchal.


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User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Blackbird1331
SXM is really a dangerous airport. The distraction factor can be very high!

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Autopilot should be used when girls like these are on the beach.

Imagine having a job on Maho Beach for SXM, looking for beautiful women, just to warn the planes...  Nuts

Well to be more serious, would the most dangerous airport be the one with the most crashes relatively? Airports located in areas with war does not count.

- JHSfan



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User currently offlineCrugs1 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3567 times:

ABZ is meant to be a diffucult approach, particularly in
winter time due to bad cross-winds. many flights have to
do go-arounds!


User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

BTW - Blackbird1331: Got o http://www.pjiae.com/ goto "About pjiae" and choose "fact sheet" and find the info you asked about.

-JHSfan



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

If using Flight Sim , try visuals onto runway 08 at INN, but I presume that the checkerboard appraoach would be up there.

User currently offlineTristar100 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

I was on a flight a couple of years ago into Funchal, I never get scared on a plane, but on this landing I was a bit sweaty.

On an A320, missed the first, landed on second attempt and my backside was biting the seat on breaking, turned off and was staring at a huge drop below. All week I was thinking about the take-off out off there.

A good one to experience.

Steve.


25 Post contains images Super Em : I've been on the Canarsie Approach on a Jetblue A320. I wasn't worried Watching the heavies make that turn especially an A340-600 is pretty cool.
26 Post contains images 777ER : WLG is a dangerous airport to land and take off from because of its runway, Cook Strait and rocks at the Southern end and Hills, Wellington Harbour, r
27 ZKSUJ : WLG is also know for its high winds and it's not so friendly weather.
28 Oly720man : Aircraft carrier Rough sea Windy Cloudy Night
29 Levent : Melilla, the Spanish enclave in Northern Morocco. It´s a tiny airport in a tiny piece of land. Officialy the Spanish planes are not allowed to enter
30 Post contains links and images UAXDXer : Here are two of the most difficult in the U.S. for Airlines Telluride, Co KTEX View Large View MediumPhoto © Surfocean Aspen, Co KASE View Large
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