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Best Airline On The CDG-NYC Route  
User currently offlineGoMEA From France, joined Jan 2004, 202 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

I'm planning on going to New York in the near future and I've been looking for the best fares (economy).

It seems that Air India has sometimes unbeatable prices. How good is their service?

And, what about other airlines? How would rate AA, CO, AF, DL and USair on this particular route? Usually, their offer more or less the same fares if you book well in advance.

Thanks !


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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

AA is alright but they use 763s that do not have any PTVS.

CO is nice, I like them and a lot of people in NYC like them.

For US Airways, you will have to take a connecting flight and I would advice against that simply because there are many direct flight options.

My personal advice would be to not take AI, unless there is a huge price difference. I would go for either AF or CO.

-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7572 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5132 times:

I think DL is the weakest carrier in the group you mention in terms of flight and service quality. If you can book your flight on AF's 773ER, that should be your best choice. Maybe your second choice should be AA because of MRTC and because of the pizza. I have read here that CO has a very solid trans-Atlantic product and that US can be very good too, although their service is quite inconsistent.

Also, do not forget the issue of the miles if you are a frequent flyer.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineJerry1011 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Hi GoMEA

I am a travel agent and I book quite a few people onto AI from LHR to JFK. The opinions which they express when they return are usually very polarised, and range from really bad service and punctuality through to excellent for everything. I really think its a case of pot luck with the cabin crew and catering. The food (especially the Indian selection) often gets good reports.

I suppose that given the price and the fact that they are likely to get you across the pond in one safe piece, they are worth considering as an option - but not if you are fussy about minor details such as getting there on time and getting the seat you wanted etc!

I'd go for it if it was cheap!

Jerry.


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2996 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

I would vote for Air France, with Continental a close second. Delta and American are fine, but nothing special.


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User currently offlineTolosy From Luxembourg, joined Oct 2003, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

IMHO I would say AF, but the choice is yours!

AI could be a good experience! I like their livery...


User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

Tolosy - You like this livery???


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To me it looks very 70'ish, in fact, it looks like one of those liveries you'd see on a fake airline in a movie!




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User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4981 times:

CO, is the way to go. With one of the most modern fleets, in-flight service is very good, and PTVs in every seat.

AF, Nice cabin, you get your PTVs on the 777s. Don't know about the 340s, so I can't comment about that. In-flight service is spotty, like any other major.

AA, Only has it's 763, Into CDG. It does not have PTVs, In-flight service is good, nothing terrible, nor outstanding. The leg room is where the difference is at. Much more leg room then any other on this route in coach. And of course, yes the pizza.  Laugh out loud

DL, Don't know about service on board, but they don't have PTVs on their 763s. But they do on their 777s.

US, Why connect?



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User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4922 times:

Could someone bring me up-to-date about the pizza on AA?

-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4911 times:

US, Why connect?

Maybe for the best transatlantic coach product out there?

With the other airlines, you're debating whether or not you get PTVs. With US on the A330, you get AVOD at every seat, with the fantastic P@ssport system.

(Note that I'm only recommending US during the winter season, when they fly the A330-300 on PHL-CDG. During the summer season, when US flies 2 B767-200ERs on PHL-CDG, I'd recommend one of the nonstops, as US's 762s are nothing special. And if inflight entertainment isn't your thing anyway, then connecting might not be worth it for you.)



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

Re: Could someone bring me up-to-date about the pizza on AA?

AA serve (normally as the second meal service) a particularly delicious hot mini pizza in the main cabin on daylight transatlantic flights - it really is good !


User currently offlineOB1783P From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

Cher Monsieur Goméa:

Your thread is titled Charles de Gaulle to Kennedy. Air India doesn't fly this route. Air India flies from CDG to Newark, New Jersey. Newark is a less busy and less large airport than JFK.

If you have a connecting flight, or if you will have some friends pick you up at the airport, it makes a huge difference: from where I live, I have to drive 2.5 hours to IAD (Washington International Dulles), 3h to Newark, and a good 4.5h to JFK.

If you're just visiting New York, it doesn't make much difference. There is plenty of transportation from either airport.

Bin voyage en tous cas.



I've flown thousands of miles and I can tell you it's a lot safer than crossing the street!
User currently offlineAF-A319 From France, joined Oct 1999, 603 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4874 times:

With AF in Y, you get:

-Free champagne
-Free wines
-PTV (50% of the 777/A340 fleet are fitted with the new digital system offering movies every 15 minutes)
-You leave CDG2 and arrive at T1... much better than anything else (except CO if you like to visit new jersey!)
-A small amenity kit, but which is the most furnished I have seen on transantlantic flights


For me, the choice is obvisous... Maybe because I love champagne, but that is another issue!

Happy travelling!

Louis


User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4869 times:

US, Why connect?

Maybe for the best transatlantic coach product out there?

With the other airlines, you're debating whether or not you get PTVs. With US on the A330, you get AVOD at every seat, with the fantastic P@ssport system.


IFE is a factor in choosing flights, but not that much of a factor in terms of taking a connecting flight.

-Will



"She Flew For What We Stand For"
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

It seems that Air India has sometimes unbeatable prices. How good is their service?

I would go for AI, without doubt, since you say the price is the best... good food, a lot of booze, and service has really improved - IFE a little crappy. You can make your own comparison to 'Western Carriers'

Tell us how you decided


User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2360 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

A330323x, I would love to fly on US's 333, but...I only took into consideration non-stop flights on this route. If that were the case, then I would have brought in US and NW into the picture.


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6465 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

OB1783P,

Unless my eyes see different than you, I believe the title was CDG to NYC, not JFK!!!!!

EWR is a New York airport


User currently offlineOB1783P From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4696 times:

Hi Bobnwa:

I must be getting old. You are right.

Still, I hope our French friend can use the info. about JFK and EWR.

I know that next time I fly to Paris, I plan to go with AI, for the fun of it.

My father lives in Paris, but my mother lives in Marseille. I'm going to visit her soon, just for a long weekend, and I'm booked on Alitalia, EWR to MXP to MRS. Just for fun as well. AF would have been $150 more (and I would have been sad to transfer in Paris and not go say hello to my father).

Let's just hope there still is an Alitalia...



I've flown thousands of miles and I can tell you it's a lot safer than crossing the street!
User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 18, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

With AF in Y, you get:

-Free champagne


??? Champagne tends to be the one thing you don't get in Monkey Class, even if you get other wine. Champagne is quite expensive so...

I have flown AF across the pond several times in Y. Very good but no champagne  Big grin

I would choose AF over a US carrier anyday of the week if it weren't for the fact that I am collecting miles on AA right now.


Re: Could someone bring me up-to-date about the pizza on AA?

AA serve (normally as the second meal service) a particularly delicious hot mini pizza in the main cabin on daylight transatlantic flights - it really is good !


As you know I don't like to be a contrarian ( Big grin) but the pizza didn't look or smell good at all to me. But then I'm very picky when it comes to food.



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineKim777fan From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 510 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

"EWR is a New York airport"

Shhhhhhhhh.... Don't let New Yorkers hear you talk that way!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineAF-A319 From France, joined Oct 1999, 603 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

Starlionblue, to come back to the champagne issue, let me tell you that i flew CDG YUL yesterday and that champagne was offered. On some flights, the bottle is not on the trolley and you have to request it. But I always got my champagne glass on all 5 Y-class AF transatlantic legs in the last 12 months.


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 21, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Starlionblue, to come back to the champagne issue, let me tell you that i flew CDG YUL yesterday and that champagne was offered. On some flights, the bottle is not on the trolley and you have to request it. But I always got my champagne glass on all 5 Y-class AF transatlantic legs in the last 12 months.

I don't mean to sound snotty here, but are you sure it wasn't just sparkling white wine?



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1557 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4564 times:

Hi GoMEA, the AI fare is very interesting (327€ if I'm right) if you want a direct flight and fly a 744... Otherwise, I've tried to price a CDG-NYC (both JFK and EWR) this week on www.go-voyages.com and found that the ticket on US Airways was available for €320, but with a connecting flight @ PHL, then arriving at LGA from there you can easily go to Manhattan. I would also consider flying with UA via IAD (paid €330 all incl. in last november) with their 772. Air France would also be a good choice but I would rather fly UA or US to earn 100% FF miles even on the lowest fare available.
Well, not so easy to make a choice you can fly a lot of airlines connecting to several cities before arriving in New York  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Have a nice trip anyway !

Jef

PS: sorry guys for the link above, the website is in french...



Life is short : eat dessert first !
User currently offlineHBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4528 times:

I think Swiss has some great deals to New York (especially before they change the EWR flight to a BBJ in January 2005), so if you would not mind making a little detour via ZRH or GVA and enjoy a relaxing transatlantic flight for a price that can be as low as 350 Euros, you might check out the wonderful and brilliantly efficient swiss.com website; I especially like the 340 on the ZRH-JFK run, as their new PTVs are super entertaining, you can even pay on board trivial pursuit and boast around with your general knowledge, however, just my 2 cent,

cheers

ah by the way, if you are a student it is always a great help to check out the statravel.co.uk page as they probably offer the lowest fares from the old world to the new one, I once almost booked a flight on Kuwait Airways that was an unbelievable 120 £, and I remember Air India fares in about the same price range.

If you have a flair for nostalgic airliner you have the option to fly from Brussels on a Bangladesh Biman DC-10 to JFK; attractive fares of 350 Euros are available at airevents.de,

however,

have fun crossing the big pond



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