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CSeries And The Regionals  
User currently offlinecrj200faguy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

I searched and didn't find any other threads that asked this question. So if there is one already don't go nuts telling me. Just go read one of the many other threads extolling the virtues of Delta.

Which airline will be the first to allow regionals to operate the C Series and which regional will do it? I know this is purely speculation and I understand the concept of scope. However, scope is never set in stone. If you offer pilots enough incentive scope can change. I don't think 20 years ago people thought regionals would be operating the CRJ900 which is essentially a DC9-10. I don't think we'll see regionals operating the CS300 anytime soon, but the CS100 isn't out of the question. BBD shows it seating 100 in 2 class config. If you reduce the number of first class seats to 12 it could seat 105.

If you are only going to post this will never happen just move on.

Personally, my pick is Delta operated by Pinnacle or ASA.

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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

Quoting crj200faguy (Thread starter):
If you are only going to post this will never happen just move on.

So you don't want an informed debate then in which people share views that may not agree with yours?

[Edited 2011-01-24 17:00:17]

User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8969 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

Republic Airways has 40 CS300s on order.


"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlinecrj200faguy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3641 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 1):
So you don't want an informed debate then in which people share views that may not agree with yours?

I wasn't asking for a debate. I know that as of now no regionals can operate aircraft that size. I was asking which mainline pilots would cave in first. This was speculation for fun.

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 2):
Republic Airways has 40 CS300s on order.

They aren't going to operate them as a regional. Those are for Frontier.


User currently offlineAlasizon From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

Well considering the fact that no major US regional has them on order, taking into account the pilot scope limitations at DL and AA, the fact that US has E-Jets, and the fact that the new UA/CO is currently having scope issues with Skywest flights at 70 seats, I would say the first major US regional we'll see using the CSeries will be someone on behalf of WN, and that is quite a stretch. So pretty much, it won't be happening anytime soon if it does at all.

Now as a mainline aircraft, Frontier/Republic will be the first.



Window seats may be over-rated, but I'll take a window seat on a DC9 anyday
User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3045 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 4):
So pretty much, it won't be happening anytime soon if it does at all.

Uh oh. Be careful. You're not allowed to say that.  


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6748 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

Brit Air. They already got the CRJ-1000.


New Technology is the name we give to stuff that doesn't work yet. Douglas Adams
User currently offlineAlasizon From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3322 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 6):
Brit Air. They already got the CRJ-1000.

Then in theory, wouldn't they continue with the CRJ-1000 and not add an additional and more expensive type to their fleet.



Window seats may be over-rated, but I'll take a window seat on a DC9 anyday
User currently offlineytz From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 2073 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3267 times:

Speculating is hard when you limit....speculation.

At 100 seats, even setting aside things like pay, it might well be in an airline's interest to operate the route themselves. There comes a point at which you need to start enforcing your brand. And for my money, I'd say that happens once you start putting triple digit pax numbers in an aluminum tube that you intend to hurtle at significant speeds through the troposphere.

So I don't see any regionals running 100 seat aircraft in the foreseeable future. Beyond that I really can't foresee what will happen!  


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6748 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 7):
Then in theory, wouldn't they continue with the CRJ-1000 and not add an additional and more expensive type to their fleet.

In truth I have no idea. But at least scope shouldn't be an issue. However they don't need the range at all, and it would really be a new type, unlike the CRJ-1000 which is still a derivative.

Those planes are replacing Fokker 100 which also had 100 seats.

ytz : what does "enforcing your brand" mean ? I'm sure a lot of people don't realize they're on a regional, even if the crew isn't trying to conceal it (on Brit Air, the captain announces "Welcome on this Air France flight operated by Brit Air".



New Technology is the name we give to stuff that doesn't work yet. Douglas Adams
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