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Is Aviation Starting To Wear Off For You?  
User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2132 posts, RR: 10
Posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5796 times:

OK, so this is more of a confession than a poll, but I do want to know what other people think about this.

I've been flying since I was 5 years old (that's 21 years ago). My first flight was on a LH 747-200. I mostly flew once a year long haul from S. America to Europe, pretty much always on a 747 and later on A340s. But I also flew on turbo props and small regional jets, and I remember I used to love it! I used to really love the experience of flying, even if there was no PTV (they didn't exist back then) or an overhead movie. Flying from major European gateways (CDG, FRA, etc) to FLR (where my grandparents used to pick me up) was such a treat!

Nowadays, only flying in C / J excites me. The occasional long haul Y flight on a very good airline (e.g. SQ or QR) also excites me. If I had the chance of flying a very rare aircraft (e.g. a chopper or a soviet a/c) I would also be very excited.

But to be honest, I find the the 1 - 3 hour flights on a 737, A320, or CRJ/ERJ type of a/c dreadful! I really don't look forward to the experience at all. I just want to get on the plane and get to my destination as fast as possible. I don't get excited about take off and landing anymore. Maybe it's because over the last 4 - 5 months it's just been that for nearly every Mon - Fri for work.

Have I become one of those people that just gets excited about the product (e.g. C / J on SQ) rather than by aviation itself?

Cheers
Coal


Nxt Flts: SQ SYD-SIN-DEL-SIN-SYD | VA SYD-DPS-SYD
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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1670 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5790 times:

Yup I have had exactly the same since I worked 2 days of the week in London (I live in Amsterdam) back in 2001 (damn I'm getting old   ). For 5 months straight I flew between Amsterdam and London every other 2 days, this got old quite quickly I must say.

After this only longhaul on the likes of SQ or EK excite me. Flying to CCS on Alitalia was only do-able because of copious amount of alcohol. Sometimes, if a short haul flight is not full and it's a daylight flight I can still be seen hogging the window like a 5 year old. But these flights are rare, normally I'm passed out and only awake when we reach the gate.

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
Have I become one of those people that just gets excited about the product (e.g. C / J on SQ) rather than by aviation itself?

Well, you're still here aren't you? When I commute to work I pass under one of the busier approaches into Schiphol (also my office is directly under this approach and I am still, after all these years, glue'ed to the window if a 747 or other big jet passes. The countless A320's/737's are promptly ignored though.

I still love aviation, the wonder of it, I still have those small moments when I'm on the toilet in an airplane and it just amazes me that I'm taking a dump while going at near trans-sonic speeds high in the troposphere (yes I'm weird like that). But we are also experienced flyers, we know the hassle of short haul flight, the delays, the annoying other pax, the freakishly small cans of Coke.

Dude, it would be weird if you still enter any short haul flight with the face of a 5 year old looking like you are entering on the biggest adventure ever.  

[Edited 2011-02-09 01:47:35]


Live From Amsterdam!
User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2132 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5779 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
Yup I have had exactly the same since I worked 2 days of the week in London (I live in Amsterdam) back in 2001 (damn I'm getting old ). For 5 months straight I flew between Amsterdam and London every other 2 days, this got old quite quickly I must say.

Yeah, I guess that's what it was. 4 out of 5 days per work week I was getting up at 5am, driving an hour to the airport, flying a 737 or A320 for 1 - hours, going for a meeting, then back the same day and arriving at home at 10 or 11pm and I was really, really starting to hate it.

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
After this only longhaul on the likes of SQ or EK excite me

Me too. But then, isn't just the product rather than aviation itself that makes it exciting? Or maybe it's because, as SQ's motto once was, on those airlines the romance of travel lives on!

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
I still love aviation, the wonder of it, I still have those small moments when I'm on the toilet in an airplane and it just amazes me that I'm taking a dump while going at near trans-sonic speeds high in the troposphere (yes I'm weird like that).

You take a dump on the plane? I have to have a major case of the runs to take a dump on a a/c toilet, even in F!   

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
But we are also experienced flyers, we know the hassle of short haul flight, the delays, the annoying other pax

I think this is the biggest hassle. If you weren't packed like sardines on a 737 or A320 perhaps the experience would be better.

I also miss the days when flights weren't full. Seriously, when was the last time you boarded a plane that was less than 95% full?

Cheers
Coal



Nxt Flts: SQ SYD-SIN-DEL-SIN-SYD | VA SYD-DPS-SYD
User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1670 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 2):
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
I still love aviation, the wonder of it, I still have those small moments when I'm on the toilet in an airplane and it just amazes me that I'm taking a dump while going at near trans-sonic speeds high in the troposphere (yes I'm weird like that).

You take a dump on the plane? I have to have a major case of the runs to take a dump on a a/c toilet, even in F!

On a long haul flight which is not full and the toilets are clean? No problem whatsoever, when you gotta go, you gotta go. Also fun is tricking your friend in doing the same and hitting the flush button while seated. The surprised scream could be heard in the cabin 
Quoting Coal (Reply 2):
I think this is the biggest hassle. If you weren't packed like sardines on a 737 or A320 perhaps the experience would be better.

I also miss the days when flights weren't full. Seriously, when was the last time you boarded a plane that was less than 95% full?

Yup, a 2002 flight to NYC on SAS. I think it was A330 or 340. The flight was maybe 20% filled, it was a pure delight. We spend almost the whole flight in the back drinking beers with the very hot flight attandents (well we drank the beer). After that all my flights were at least 70-75% filled.



Live From Amsterdam!
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11721 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5756 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
But to be honest, I find the the 1 - 3 hour flights on a 737, A320, or CRJ/ERJ type of a/c dreadful! I really don't look forward to the experience at all.

For me it's getting a little boring, as the main types chase each other up through double figures in my log, but I still enjoy the experience of flying. It's a form of real world escapism, no matter how stressed you are with work on the ground, in the air you are physically removed from that life. Unless flying for work, but I rarely do that.

Quoting Coal (Reply 2):
I also miss the days when flights weren't full. Seriously, when was the last time you boarded a plane that was less than 95% full?

Maybe I'm just lucky, but I find it's normally about a 50:50 ratio. This could partly be because as a student I would have to pick the cheapest fares, and that often belies an empty-ish flight at a time which isn't popular.


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlinea380us From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5682 times:

Personally Ive been flying from a few months old so I dont really remember my first flight, I dont even remember my first time as a UM (I was 6) but my first flight that I do remember was on a 747 to TLV at 5 and I am very thankful to say that I've traveled extensivley and obviously its much more exciting when I travel on a new airline or a new A/C or in J/C/F but even when flying Y domestic on a "regular" flight, A/C I still enjoy the airport. Im not sure why but i really enjoy the trip to the airport, the atmosphere, the rush of people and the such.


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User currently offlinejetblue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
(e.g. SQ or QR

Wait, wait, I thought you hated QR?   (I read your trip report about your bad experience on QR, sorry about that)

Well, for me, international flights excites me the most and by international I mean JFK-Asia, JFK-Europe and flights like 6hrs+

International flights/longhaul = means PTVs (in most cases) , complimentary meal and the experience, is just... amazing.

For domestic flights, (especially in the Philippines where my family does a lot of domestic travel and it's only less than an hour) It get's a bit boring, flying on a turboprop and the usual A319/A320. As well as multiple segments in one day (Or when you're connecting to another flight and you just came from a longhaul flight can be a frustrating experience)

My family goes to the Philippines every summer, so I get the privilege of flying long haul flights like JFK-ICN on OZ/KE (14hrs)

I still love traveling, the thought of waking up early in the morning, driving to the airport, checking-in, boarding, window view, in-flight entertainment and meals, flight attendants and etc.... it's just...   

 



It's a cultural thing.
User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

As I've gotten older, I feel like the hassles of flying kill the fun of it. That said, I still try to get window seats; I record takeoffs and landings and post them on youtube. I always look up in the sky when I hear a plane. So some of it has worn off, but it's still in my blood. And I still love "the airport smell."


Go big or go home
User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7279 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5618 times:

I am no longer as excited to fly anymore but thats the simple fact that I fly a lot more. When I took a flight in a family friends Cessna 206 I could be as excited as I ever was for aviation. When I was younger I flew less and was more passionate about aviation a bit because I wanted to be a commercial pilot. I still fly around on Flight Simulator and collect some Models etc.. But not like I used to but that is only because I have more things going on now. But I still love aviation spend a lot of time on this site and take pictures at the airport and enjoy just about every flight I take. But I think it is just natural to not like some parts of it as you get older.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5598 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
But to be honest, I find the the 1 - 3 hour flights on a 737, A320, or CRJ/ERJ type of a/c dreadful! I really don't look forward to the experience at all.

To an extent I feel the same way. I think part of it is the hassles associated with air travel, especially security. The other part of it is that lately I've been flying the same routes on the same aircraft types to the same not-very-interesting airports (minus going through ATL). There's nothing new to see, so I just want to get where I'm going. Lots of flights on CRJs and MD-88s. *Yawn*. I used to get the window seat on every single flight. Now I'll often take an aisle for comfort, especially if the flight is at night. I still get excited during takeoff and landing at least, and I still look forward to the flight if I'm flying on a new aircraft type or to (or through) a new city or across a part of the country (or world) I've never seen before or only been to or seen a few times.

Thinking deeper about it, I think some of my interest is fading off from being medically disqualified from a pilot slot with the USAF. My entire life I wanted to fly. I wasn't even interested in fighters - tankers or cargo jets would have been just fine with me, but I really just wanted to fly. But thanks to bad vision that's uncorrectable through LASIK or PRK, I'm confined to the ground, designing planes from a desk. Now when I fly, part of me is reminded that it will never be me in the cockpit. But turning back to optimism, I'm still going to pursue my PPL and at least be able to fly general aviation aircraft.


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2694 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5598 times:
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I can see why people's interest in aviation starts to wear off if you fly frequently. In my case, flying is still very irregular - perhaps once or twice a year at most, so almost every time I fly I still get goosebumps. Problem is, I'm not a fan of narrowbodies, let alone RJs. CRJ, ARJ or ERJ? E-Jet or F100? Dash 8 or ATR? To be frank, I don't care ... for me, flying in them is as mundane as taking the bus (or the train), and I can definitely see why if you start to fly more often (several times a week for work, for instance), it's hard to get excited about it. Flying long haul on a widebody (particularly the 747 or 777), however, is something that I still enjoy after all these years, and still get excited about.


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User currently offlineacidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5572 times:
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If you are around ANYTHING too much it gets boring and you become desensitized.

When I worked in the industry and I encountered a pilot who was about to take vacation time they almost always said that they were going to take a road trip. One pilot told me how much he missed seeing "things" - trees, cars, people, buildings - and that he was excited to take a road trip a state or two away.

When you fly all the time the experience goes from something that is special and rare to one of "Hey, I might as well be riding a bus." To aviation fans flying is our dessert. If you only ate dessert you wouldn't appreciate it.



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5532 times:
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I can only speak for myself: 2234 flights so far and still enjoying it everyday.

Tomorrow #2235 is coming up. Really looking forward to it.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5507 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
Have I become one of those people that just gets excited about the product (e.g. C / J on SQ) rather than by aviation itself?


I suppose it comes down to how you define aviation.

I am still impressed by the simple fact that something so large and cumbersome as an aircraft can actually get airborne and safely bring people to another part of the world. I am impressed with the efforts made by so many people to improve the efficiency with which we can do that, whether it's by improving the engines or the materials out of which components are made.

I am never tired by flying over the scenery that is offered, whether it be over mountain ranges or cloudscapes. The world is a continually changing picture and in flight I am constantly reminded of how small I am. I am the sort of passenger who is a cabin crew's nightmare, wanting to keep the blinds open when there is so much scenery to enjoy. Recognising places is in a way reassuring.

Now, as to other aspects of travel. That is a different story. Am I excited about the security and immigration procedures? No. Am I particularly excited about the IFE or ICE? No. Yes, I welcome it and it certainly has its uses, but it has become a standard to be expected.

In a way I am a romantic. I do not fully understand physics despite trying to. I still am fascinated by watching leaves float to the ground ( they never simply drop) and the way seeds are carried by the wind. Aircraft do not have the same randomness about them, but I still remain incredulous that they actually fly.

Disclaimer: I have read a lot of material on the actual physics of flight but I have not let the facts destroy the romance.


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2660 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

Quoting acidradio (Reply 11):
If you are around ANYTHING too much it gets boring and you become desensitized.



Not me. I used to work as field service engineer in the past, driving daily to the customers. I was clocking 60k+ km yearly, yet I never got tired of driving. On the contrary, when I was off the road for more than 3 - 4 for days, I started to grow uneasy. I'm in similar situation with flying now. Granted, I don't fly as much as I used to drive, but my 60 segments per year is significantly more than most of the population flies. I enjoy especially the shorter flights, since the take-off and landing are my two favourite phases of the flight. I get a bit annoyed on longer flights in Y (4 hours+), but I don't have too much of those. I haven't been flying since Nov. 14, I'm starting again next Monday. And I'm looking forward to it.
The only thing in aviation that makes me uncomfortable, or rather sad in aviation is the fact that I didn't try to get into the front office when I still had a chance. Now it's too late.

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 12):
I can only speak for myself: 2234 flights so far and still enjoying it everyday.



It's because you have the proper seat perhaps? Good to see you back, Wilco!


User currently offlinen809fr From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 182 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5440 times:

For me the love for flying tends to wear off after one take-off/landing a day, especially when flying international flights I just get so sick of being in a plane by the time I board my next flight.

I'll be flying DEN-DTW-NRT-SIN-KUL-HKT-KUL-DPS-SIN-NRT-DTW-DEN in about a month, I probably should have considered my hatred for long flights prior to booking this trip...


User currently onlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3837 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

No, Aviation has not worn off for me. And that is after almost 1000 flights in 24 years, many of them as a pilot on the glider and a good 3 dozen Ryanair 738s. Still to this day, each and every flight gets me excited, some of them more than others off course, but still I've never ever felt that all the hassle involved in flying and the monotony of flying the same airline repeatedly makes it more trouble than it's worth.
Different levels of excitement, yes. For example I have an upcoming transatlantic on a United 747 and a connecting 757, pretty obvious which one I'm more excited about.

But heck when the day arrives when I'm up there and wish I was down there, that's when it's all over I guess.

Soren   



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User currently offlinepwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5384 times:

Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
Have I become one of those people that just gets excited about the product (e.g. C / J on SQ) rather than by aviation itself?

Cheers
Coal


My love for aviation hasn't faded, but the excitement of flying commercially has long been dead. I don't dread it, but it's not something I really look forward to anymore. It's uncomfortable, little service, rude passengers and airline staff, bad or no food, and no variety in aircraft. They all look similar. Don't even sound like jets or leave smoke trails anymore! It's all RJ's, 320's/737NG's, and 747's and 777's. Boring! It's basically akin to riding the bus these days. Sometimes I read trip reports where somebody takes a coast to coast day trip in economy, and I just don't get it! I have to wonder, are they crazy, or have they just not flown enough to get use to the mundane experience?


For me, the experience of commercial flying started to lose it's excitement around the mid-1990's. It's rapidly deteriorated since then!

I started flying when I was a kid in 1980. I've flown maybe 6-7 times per year since then, and the experience isn't anything like it use to be. Of course back then there was the element to it that made the experience seem almost magical through a kids eyes, but even without that magicalness, it was still a much more comfortable, memorable, and enjoyable experience. Almost a special occasion.

Not only did people dress up, and not board the plane looking like they were going to the beech, but you also had space to be comfortable at your seat. The food was better, too. (I remember on morning DL flights in the 1980's, you got pancakes, sausage, bacon and eggs! You could even get seconds sometimes) The flight attendants (or stewardesses before political correctness came to be) were actually attractive slim young woman that were nice to look at. They were friendly and catered to you instead of just throwing some chips and a soda at you with a pissy mood, acting like they just want to do the bare minimum and have you leave them alone. They'd even bring you up to the cockpit in-flight, or accommodate other special requests. If you smoked, you didn't have to suffer for hours. You could just have a smoke and nobody complained.

If your flight got canceled or delayed due to weather, or even a mechanical issue that was the airline's fault, the airline would rebook you on another airline if they couldn't get you on another one of their flights in a timely fashion. They'd pay for a hotel if you were stranded. If they lost your bag, you could go home and somebody would deliver to your house the next day. When you gave up your seat on an oversold flight, airlines offered volunteers free tickets, not just vouchers for a couple hundred dollars.

Airlines had free pillows and blankets. Playing cards, pin-on wings and model planes for the kids, etc. Everything about it was different. It was an enjoyable experience to look forward to. These days, it sucks! Maybe it's still o.k. if you can afford to fly in First or Business class, but there's nothing enjoyable about flying in economy these days! Especially long haul. All you have to look forward to is a sore back!


It might sound funny, but back in the day, airliners actually had their own unique smell when you entered the cabin. It kind of smelled like "new car smell" albeit a little staler. I miss that smell! At least you can still smell the wonderful smell of Jet-A, even if the planes aren't as loud and smokey these days. I truly miss the variety of common aircraft. Including the workhorses of the time, that today we'd call vintage airliners. I can't get excited to fly on an A320 or RJ. I want the 727's, classic 737's, DC-9's, and L-1011's I grew up with! Hell, even the modern red rotating beacons on planes aren't as cool these days. They just flash. They don't rotate like old school police car lights anymore, emitting a deep red light. Engines don't whine anymore. They just hiss and sound like a vacuum cleaner. It's just all these little things that are now history, that take a lot of the fun of flying away.







[Edited 2011-02-11 19:31:43]

User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 985 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5371 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
I still have those small moments when I'm on the toilet in an airplane and it just amazes me that I'm taking a dump while going at near trans-sonic speeds high in the troposphere (yes I'm weird like that).

LOL!! 

That has to be one of the most original comments ever about the wonder of flight.

I have to say I still love aviation, just not the hassle that air travel has turned into during the last decade.




LD4



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1473 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5269 times:

Love aviation, it's been in my blood since birth, but dislike flying commercially immensely. The longer the flight is, the more I hate it - even though long-haul means I'll be in one of the expensive seats as opposed to slumming it out in the abomination that is modern cattle class. I know what it takes to make a meal edible by reheating it 24 hours after it was made, so I keep well clear of the on-board catering. As a pilot, I've always found it prudent to desist from enjoying alochol while airborne, so am unable to wash the pain away with the help of Uncle Jack. My fellow passengers are, by and large, idiots and all airports are some weird and monotonous combination of a shopping mall and a maximum security facility. The service levels are ever declining, while corporate w@nk talk is reaching astronomical heights to compensate. Really, there's not much to love about commercial aviation these days.

But when I fire up the Jab and go pottering about at 1000ft AGL on a clear day, the Eiffel mountains or the Mosel river unfolding beneath me, being rocked gently by the thermals and listening to the Rotax humming away, well, that still puts the biggest smile ever on my grumpy old face. That will never ever wear off, but as far as Borings and Busses are concerned, they could dispense with the lot if you ask me (apart from the minor detail that'll mean I'd be out of a job, an aeroplane, a car, house, wife would probably disappear as well .....)



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5259 times:

I still love aviation and airplanes, but yeah it's all pretty routine for me with the amount I travel each year...heck right now I am in the midst of doing about 70k miles in a 40 day period, so it's just a way of life to me. The excitement of the place I am going is still there, but the excitement of getting there...it has been gone for a few years, unfortunately.

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 21, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 2):
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
After this only longhaul on the likes of SQ or EK excite me

Me too. But then, isn't just the product rather than aviation itself that makes it exciting? Or maybe it's because, as SQ's motto once was, on those airlines the romance of travel lives on!

I feel very much the same way. I looked at my flight log, and of a total of 323 flights in my life to date, very nearly half are on Easyjet A319s. I have several dozen Tiger Airways A320/19 flights as well and BD, EI and a few other generic feelalikes. As the man says, I only get excited when its long-haul and not in the cheap seats. I do long-haul a lot but rarely in C as my work are too tight to pay for it most of the time and I cant afford it personally unless its a special occasion.

Its better when there is some excitement about the flight as well - I've done London - DXB/BAH/DOH/AUH/KWI so many bloody times its just boring. The A380 takes the edge off the boredom, but only just. Am so very, very bored of Emirates 77Ws now, and they have one of the nicest Y cabins in the sky. I quite like interesting flights - eg: over the Pole flights, or routes Ive not done before etc.

Quoting Coal (Reply 2):
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 1):
I still love aviation, the wonder of it, I still have those small moments when I'm on the toilet in an airplane and it just amazes me that I'm taking a dump while going at near trans-sonic speeds high in the troposphere (yes I'm weird like that).

You take a dump on the plane? I have to have a major case of the runs to take a dump on a a/c toilet, even in F!   

I'm with Coal on that one. Pooing on planes is nasty. Get it out of your system before you fly. I've had to go into a toilet after someone who had been for a crap too many times and thats just nasty. I'd hate the idea that anyone would be queuing up to go in after me and have to live with it. Urgh. I am 99% sure I've never had a poo on a plane ever in my life and thats in 323 flights including some very, very long ones. (17 hours DOH-IAH is prob the longest and I didnt even then, and the cabin only had a dozen or so other pax!).

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 4):
Quoting Coal (Thread starter):
But to be honest, I find the the 1 - 3 hour flights on a 737, A320, or CRJ/ERJ type of a/c dreadful! I really don't look forward to the experience at all.

For me it's getting a little boring, as the main types chase each other up through double figures in my log, but I still enjoy the experience of flying. It's a form of real world escapism, no matter how stressed you are with work on the ground, in the air you are physically removed from that life. Unless flying for work, but I rarely do that.

I agree with that. I like sitting and relaxing - knowing work and stress can only reach me if my phone is on, which of course it never is. The day they properly bring in mobile phone usage on planes without having to pay through the nose for it will be a big nail in airline romance's coffin.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 19):
I know what it takes to make a meal edible by reheating it 24 hours after it was made, so I keep well clear of the on-board catering.

I reheat food all the time at home. And Ive never got sick or know anyone who has on airline food. I quite like it (most of the time). Although if i never see another EK chicken Madinah it will be too soon.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 19):
As a pilot, I've always found it prudent to desist from enjoying alochol while airborne, so am unable to wash the pain away with the help of Uncle Jack.

Ah Jack. I love that guy.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 19):
My fellow passengers are, by and large, idiots

Something about travel just makes normal people into brainless dribbling idiots - dunno why.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 19):
all airports are some weird and monotonous combination of a shopping mall and a maximum security facility.

Yes you are right. Not enough windows and quiet areas to sip a drink and watch the arrivals etc. Its therapeutic, but we rarely get to do it these days.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlinehercppmx From United States of America, joined May 2008, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

I'll never get tired of it as a whole, as some have said the same planes on the same routes is what can kill it. I dislike airports pre-security, although like any other member I have done it enough to make it as quick and as painless as possible. To me there is nothing better, and no bigger joy then a window seat, seeing the world pass by. Sometimes I read sometimes I watch movies, the majority of the time I need a window and an iPod, and I'm perfectly content, relaxed, and happy. I hate that there is now wifi on planes, I enjoy being in an A/C for countless hours consumed only by me time. The pure thought of 8 hours where there is no work, friends, family, GIRLFRIEND needing me for something is delightful sometimes.
I have lived all over the world the last few years, and I think it helps quite a bit, your exposed to new airlines, routes and types. I have been surrounded by aviation since birth, and I'm fairly confident I'll be surrounded by it until my time is up. I still get excited planing trips, do I want to fly a 737, 757, 777 or sometimes if I'm lucky MD-80.
When I lived in Pensacola I enjoyed watching the blues practice 2-3 days a week. In North Carolina I watched AV-8B's in Awe. In Japan I was Surrounded by Helo's all day with a few C-130's. In Texas C-130s, F-18s, F-16s, were a daily sight and I still looked to the sky like I was 5. Even when I wasn't working I'd be up at founders plaza at DFW watching movements, takeoffs, and landings. When I visit my parents in Seattle, driving by BFI to see the 787, when there house is the other way.
I spent 5 years in the military as an engine mechanic, it allowed me to travel all over the world in KC-130's, While they are loud, and slow, you cannot beat the legroom or the freedom to move around during flight. The seats and the IFE leave something to be desired. Riding on Fat Albert during an Airshow Performance is still to this day the coolest flight of my life.
While sometimes the road and travel can be boring or time consuming (time wasted), Flying and Aviation is something that I personally will never get tired of, for I believe that it is in my blood and there is nothing I'd rather do.



C-130; it's a love-hate relationship
User currently offlineash1111 From Australia, joined Dec 2008, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 5186 times:

I've flown A LOT in the past year, but I still enjoy it. I love the take offs, I love the landings and I love the excitement I get when boarding a plane. But I must admit that I don't get as excited as I used to get.

Still, I love flying, I love planes, from the noises the engines make, to the smell that hits you as you walk down the aerobridge.

I love everything about planes, and it'll always be "in my blood".

- Ash


User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 5184 times:
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Quoting ash1111 (Reply 23):
I love everything about planes, and it'll always be "in my blood".

The quote of the day! Very well said   

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It it's not Boeing, I am not going.
25 Quokka : Duplicated post, sorry.[Edited 2011-02-14 06:08:08]
26 Quokka : Please excuse my poor knowledge. Would that be a C-130T? If so did it use the jet assisted take off that I have heard of? That would have been awesom
27 hercppmx : Fat Albert is a "C-130T" BuNo 164763, I worked on KC-130T's , The K is in reference to it's inflight refueling capabilities. Yes, when I flew on bert
28 falstaff : I flew on airplanes since I was 6 months old, but in 1983 my dad and I went and saw "The Right Stuff" and I was hooked on aviation ever since. About t
29 QFKangaroo747 : This is a great topic. Your question is one which I have given a great deal of thought to over the years, so much so that a few years back I actually
30 bjorn14 : I've never been really fascinated with airplanes (too technical) per se (both Mom & Dad were pilots)but what has and always will excite me is is t
31 Post contains images KingFriday013 : Recently when I flew to LGA for the Monster Ball, that was the first time in my life I was more focused on the destination rather than the travel port
32 blueflyer : Whether it has worn off or not is very much destination centric for me. If it's some place I am not particularly keen to go to, the entire travel expe
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