Mika10021 From Greece, joined Jul 2004, 122 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3560 times:
I was looking at a photo of OA from 1973 and they still have the same livery up to this day.Do any other airlines have such an old livery?
What airlines need a new one?
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4009 posts, RR: 6 Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3512 times:
How about AA? They still don't have one, all their aircraft are naked!
NceBoy From France, joined Sep 2004, 137 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3492 times:
I would say Air France, their plane could have a nicer livery. I know it a classic, but something darker can be great, so the planes won't look so dirty
And the Airbus factory livery could also get a re-look, a least for the A380 launching.
By the way, hello to all of you. This is my first post on A.net, but I've been reading the forum for a while now, about a year. I start to get used to A vs B threads, NW DC 9 replacement, and all... So I'm very happy to join today !
COEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 603 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3468 times:
IMO, I think it would be cool to see more than just one CO plane in the Peter Max colors. Does anyone think CO's livery would be better if all of CO's planes looked like the Peter Max 777?
Dsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 808 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3460 times:
I'd say AA for sure. How long have they had this livery. I would suggest keeping the bare metal finish but tweaking the painted/decal parts, maybe take the old prop era scheme and mordernize it, that woud look sweet and elegant to me.
Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3255 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3339 times:
Milemaster, the text on that image is not even proper English. If you're trying to make a bold statement, at least make a grammatically correct one (and maybe clean up the compression some, it looks terrible).
Anyway, I'd agree AA could use a new livery - the fuselage-length stripes thing went out with the 1980's. Yes, it's a classic livery, but then so are a lot of liveries we don't have anymore (AA's previous livery is much better than the current one anyway, if you want to talk "classic").
Southwest is in dire need of a new livery, though I doubt it'll ever happen. Both of their currently-used liveries (blue and orange, tan and orange) are absolutely hideous and always have been.
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AFROTC From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 191 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3326 times:
, I think it would be cool to see more than just one CO plane in the Peter Max colors. Does anyone think CO's livery would be better if all of CO's planes looked like the Peter Max 777?
um... no.
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Trickijedi From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3266 posts, RR: 5 Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3296 times:
AA livery is fine. Silver/metallic is shinier. Shiny attracts attention.
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Flick70 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 68 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3280 times:
I would love to see Continental get a make-over. While I like the golden-globe on the tail, the body of the aircraft is very "blah". I like the old meatball livery much better. It had a lot of character and was very brand-identifiable.
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WGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 38 Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3273 times:
I'd say the following airlines really need a new livery:
1. America West Airlines: Their first livery was well ahead of its time and correctly anticipated the main features of 1990s livery design, and indeed probably would still be viable today. Their current 1990s though looks appallingly "last-decade", with tacky, strange-looking letters and a hideous shade of red clashing with the various turquoise bits. A new livery would be a great way to highlight the current transformation of America West airlines from a dysfunctional basketcase to a modern, quality-service airline under Doug Parker.
2. Etihad Airways: When your airline is using what looks like the font from a Star Trek movie for its main titles, you know you have an identity problem. Eithad's livery is garish, overbearing and to be frank, bizarre. What's even more amazing is that it's a recent design. Does anyone in Abu Dhabi actually know how to design a brand?
3. Phucket Air: Since they currently don't have a livery and simply paint their titles on the old liveries of the AC they buy (or reuse US Airway's Metrojet scheme), this one's a no-brainer.
4. Aerolineas Argentinas: Their current "new" livery is one of the most boring designs ever applied to an airliner. They should freshen up with a livery more evocative of Argentina's rich culture.
5. Grupo Taca: The livery of the Central American airline system is heavy, depressing and irrelevant. It would look great on a hearse, but on an airliner it is rather subpar.
6. WestJet: Their strange looking turqoise and green livery is eerily reminscent of the odd-looking livery of North Central and later Republic Airlines in the US, and is every bit as ugly.
7. Alaska Airlines: Alaska really needs to refresh their image with something crisper and more elegant. Ditto for Horizon. The current color schemes for the two airlines are a winning combination, but the titles need to be cleaned up, and I think it's time to take Johnny Cash off the tail...
8. ATA: American Trans Air may be in bad financial health. Should they go into bankruptcy, they should probably aim to emerge with a newer, better image that's crisper, more up-to-date and less cheesy.
9. Delta: A really stupid look (and I'm consoled to note that Grinstein agrees with me) but agreeing with Grinstein, this being the third livery since 1998 or so I don't think we're going to see another change. I do wish they'd bring back the Widget scheme which continues to persist on a handful of their fleet...alas.
10. Continental: Continental's livery is elegant and classy, and of the liveries I've listed here deserves replacement the least. Nonetheless, it is out of date, and it is also very bland. While the titles et cetera do go a long way towards conveying Continental's "caring" image and quality service, they are totally devoid of flamboyance, and basically make Continental out to be an average airline. Continental clearly isn't, and a return to something flamboyant, on a par with "The Proud Bird With The Golden Tail" would be really refreshing to employees and customers alike.
I'm not going to go suggest that the airlines race to Modified Airliner Photos and take a look at what RP Abraham and the artists there have come up with, which seems fashionable on a.net these days ("Well, I really like this new livery by
I think probably the best image transition in recent times, and one which should be the model for all airlines, is that of United. Since 1998 they've slowly phased in a new corporate identity, first by reviving their 1960s-era titles, then phasing those titles in over signage, equipment, their website, tickets, et cetera, and finally in 2004, 6 years after the transition began, introducing a new livery fully integrated with their new corporate image. This identity-transition should be a role model for other airlines, and was vastly more effective than the transitions seen elsewhere, for example, Northwest, where you have two conflicting, irreconciable signage systems in place.
Coa764 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 328 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3249 times:
Milemaster, the text on that image is not even proper English. If you're trying to make a bold statement, at least make a grammatically correct one.
Livery discussions seems to come about every week or so and is way overdone, let this tired old subject die already!
AFROTC From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 191 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3231 times:
10. Continental: Continental's livery is elegant and classy, and of the liveries I've listed here deserves replacement the least. Nonetheless, it is out of date, and it is also very bland. While the titles et cetera do go a long way towards conveying Continental's "caring" image and quality service, they are totally devoid of flamboyance, and basically make Continental out to be an average airline. Continental clearly isn't, and a return to something flamboyant, on a par with "The Proud Bird With The Golden Tail" would be really refreshing to employees and customers alike.
um, flamboyant is not defined in continental's company vision today, its more of professionalism, hence the professional paint job. But I do agree that it can use some freshing up...
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L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5394 posts, RR: 19 Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3236 times:
SupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 632 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3211 times:
8. ATA: American Trans Air may be in bad financial health. Should they go into bankruptcy, they should probably aim to emerge with a newer, better image that's crisper, more up-to-date and less cheesy.
BENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 6363 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3169 times:
I think at OA need a new colour scheme, if only because the company itself needs a re-launch.
I think that AA looks fine.
IMO jazzy colour schemes date quickly. I for one value safety and stability over fun when I fly. Keep it simple, particularly with legacy carriers. These carriers still, (to an extent) fly the flag, why try to hide it.
If you are an LCC, perhaps something more striking. Allways have your phone number/web address prominantly displayed.
Flyerfly From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 31 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3146 times:
Would love to see a new livery for Malaysia Airlines ... perhaps to coincide with their launch of new in-flight products end of the year. Always think that MH being a world class airline deserves a better world wide recognition and better publicity, so a new livery could be a launching pad for that ...
Nudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3075 times:
Aaa
ahhhh....
there we are again.
When will thos airlines finally listen to us a.netters and do what
we want.
I cannot believe that our livery requests are still
unheard and unfulfilled...
Chris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2813 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3061 times:
BA!!!! I hate the new C/S! Bring back world tails or the old landor colors!!!!!!!!
I also reckon CO could do with an update, not a totally new one, just an update!
Chris
I also think BMI should stop changing liveries!!! They have like 5 different ones now or something!
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BENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 6363 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2971 times:
For BA, any colours are better than the kaleidoscope of a few years ago.
At one time, they used to prominently "fly the flag", but in recent years, we seem to be trying to hide it.
Ditto BMI. When the company is trying to hide their older British Midland Airways identity, over ruling the objection of the biggest single shareholder, (which was Lufthansa) something is seriously wrong.
No complaints about BMI service, just why change the name.
Gary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2822 times:
liberia needs a new one, air france could probibly just do with a wash, aslong as they never change emirates livery or SAA, i think the best livery updates have been bmi definatley and pia.
25 Pilotaydin: im surprised to not see turkish airlines on these lists, unless i missed it. Turkish airlines similar to AF needs a REALLY quick livery change. We use
26 Usairways16bwi: here are some new colors that look good, for airlines who need new colors: American: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_se
27 OB1504: here are some new colors that look good, for airlines who need new colors: American: http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/search/photo_se
28 Solnabo: My list for carriers in desperate need of new livery: 1 AF 2 IB 3 Lithuania Air 4 Luxair 5 Tarom 6 Bulgaria 7 LOT 8 AI 9 UA *old & new* 10 AA 11 US Ai
29 N754AN: There is nothing wrong whatsoever with the AA livery, but I do agree that OA is in urgent need of a repaint! AF's livery is fine, they just need to ba
31 Fokker50: The Summa butterfly of AV, AA, AI, BA, AC, UA, those are my opinions.
32 VirginAtlantic: Already mentioned: Alitalia Iberia Air India I think American and Continental are fine. The new United livery is horrible. What's with all the white ?
33 Babybus: I have to say that like most people in the UK I think British Airways really need to look again that their awful livery. In no way does it represent o
34 AZjetgeek: I would totally disagree with the poster who said that CO' s Peter Maxx livery should be expanded upon. It is awful, putrid, etc. Same goes for Qantas
35 Catatonic: I think that the colours of TUI are awful!! they need to be changed! also easyjet, orange is so 90's. mytravel needs to decide whether its arthur or m
36 RCS763av: Me: Avianca Air India TAP Air Portugal Qantas
37 Scottieprecord: I think AA's livery is good, but they need to do something with the non-metal parts of the plane (engine cowls and tail) View Large View MediumPhoto &
39 Cathay Pacific: Iberia Alitalia all mainland Chinese carrier namely Air China, China Southern, China Eastern....etc
40 Pilotaydin: whoa! those pics are really cool! how or what program were those done on?! That's awesome i really like that! The LH is back to the Retro style
41 Andrewair: Air France Easyjet Alaska Airlines American Continental Lufthansa US Airways Air India Philippines Thai AMc
42 TW741: AZ / AF / OA should do it pretty quick BA should get rid of their stupid tails and either use the British flag again (or the B.Cal Lion ) LH might be
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