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Airline Acronyms That Are Read As A Whole?  
User currently offlineaeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 410 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

Hello to all fellow members I'd like to bring up a topic which I thought of today.

Many major carriers have names that are Acronyms, examples include

ANA
BOAC (defunct)
ATA (defunct)
TAAG
TACA
SAS
TAM
LAN

etc.

Whats my point, well several airlines with acronyms have always had their names or acronyms read as a whole word such as, TAM,LAN,TACA and TAAG (Tahm,Lahn,Tahka, Taahg)

Now I have a habit of always reading airline acronyms and I have been doing it for years until I recently noticed adverts and videos via youtube for example I always though of ANA in my head as Ana like the name (despite having seen a commercial which said A-N-A or ATA like "Attuh!" (I saw an L-1011 security with the FA saying thankyou for flying A-T-A, The same for SAS I always think of it as sas as in sassy without the y of course.

The acronym that hit my the hardest was BOAC, I would always read it as Bow-Ahk until I saw a very old video on youtube about it and the narrator clearly said B-O-A-C.

My question is have you ever heard any of these acronyms being pronounced as words, has it ever been something popular to read acronyms as words? Have you ever done it? Or am i just crazy 

I hope that I set up the question correctly and Thankyou for much for any and all input.

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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4069 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3806 times:
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I think the most common example is QANTAS, which so many people want to spell as Quantas, as if it were indeed a word. (Queensland And Northern Territories Air Service)

Some defunct examples I can think of are UTA (Union des Transports Aeriens) and SABENA (Societe Anonyme Belge de l'Exploitation de Navigation Aerienne or close enough).



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User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

TAP - Transportes Aéreos Portugueses

LAM - Linhas Aéreas de Moçambique

SAL - Suid Afrikaanse Lugdiens

KLM - Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij

VARIG - Viação Aérea Rio Grandense

PIA - Pakistan International Airlines

LOT - I have no idea of what it stands for


Speedbird741

[Edited 2011-02-27 15:59:16]


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User currently offlineTigerguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 2):
LOT - I have no idea of what it stands for

"Lot" is "flight" in Polish



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User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3770 times:

In some ways it depends on the native language of the speaker. In most English-speaking countries TWA was said as three letters in succession, as in "T–W–A." However, I lived in Spain for awhile and everyone there called the airline "La Túa," which in English would sound like "lah too-ah." By the way, in Spanish "la" is the definite article "the," rendering the expression "La Túa" "The Trans World Airlines, which is kind of an interesting way of saying it (perhaps the folks as Pan Am would disagree).

User currently offlinejetblue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1459 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3763 times:

PAL = Philippine Airlines (PR)


It's a cultural thing.
User currently offlineaeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3759 times:

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 4):

In some ways it depends on the native language of the speaker. In most English-speaking countries TWA was said as three letters in succession, as in "T–W–A." However, I lived in Spain for awhile and everyone there called the airline "La Túa," which in English would sound like "lah too-ah." By the way, in Spanish "la" is the definite article "the," rendering the expression "La Túa" "The Trans World Airlines, which is kind of an interesting way of saying it (perhaps the folks as Pan Am would disagree).

I speak spanish as i am proudly Argentine haha but thankyou that is very interesting I would have never imagined that anyone would try to read TWA, I guess that in spanish it does make more sense than in English since it would be like trying to say twat without the t at the end.

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 2):

TAP - Transportes Aéreos Portugueses

LAM - Linhas Aéreas de Moçambique

SAL - Suid Afrikaanse Lugdiens

KLM - Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij

VARIG - Viação Aérea Rio Grandense

PIA - Pakistan International Airlines

LOT - I have no idea of what it stands for

Hm I can imagine all of these being read except for KLM since it dosent have any vowels and PIA, how would you say that Pee,ah?


User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3748 times:

Quoting aeroflot001 (Reply 6):
all of these being read except for KLM

Although I have heard people going as far as Kleh-me, I agree with you as this example is just too ridiculous.

Quoting aeroflot001 (Reply 6):
PIA, how would you say that Pee,ah?

Yes, that is how we say it in Portuguese, and I suppose in English as well.


Speedbird741



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User currently offlineaeroflot001 From Argentina, joined Oct 2009, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 7):
Although I have heard people going as far as Kleh-me, I agree with you as this example is just too ridiculous.

Absolutely

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 7):
Yes, that is how we say it in Portuguese, and I suppose in English as well.

Ive never heard anyone say PIA but yes that would probably be the way to pronounce it. Since your Portuguese Obviously you just call TAP tap or Ive never heard anyone say Transportes Aeros Potugeses or TAM as T-A-M or Transportes Aeros Mercosur.


User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

I've never heard a single person refer to TW as Trans World. It's always been TWA.


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User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3036 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3730 times:
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JAL and ANA come to mind.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone read it out letter by letter.



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User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

Quoting aeroflot001 (Reply 8):
Since your Portuguese Obviously you just call TAP tap

Yes, we just call it TAP. I am yet to hear a Portuguese person refer to it as Transportes Aéreos Portugueses. In English it is either TAP or T-A-P. As a matter of fact, the english portion of the safety video uses T-A-P.

Quoting KBUF (Reply 9):
It's always been TWA.

In Portuguese we also use T-W-A. I have not heard the too-ah in Portuguese.

Speedbird741



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User currently offlineRJLover From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 577 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3718 times:

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 10):
JAL and ANA come to mind.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone read it out letter by letter.

I've always thought of and spoken, ANA as A-N-A.



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User currently offlineQuokka From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

Quoting aeroflot001 (Thread starter):
The acronym that hit my the hardest was BOAC, I would always read it as Bow-Ahk until I saw a very old video on youtube about it and the narrator clearly said B-O-A-C.

BOAC was always pronounced each letter singularly: it is an abbreviation but not an acronym. The same applied to BEA . An acronym is always pronounced as a word - for examples laser for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation, and radar for RAdio Detection And Ranging.

The example of Qantas is interesting in that it was originally an abbreviation and became an acronym that is now part of the registered business name. So while other airlines initials may still represent words, in the case of Qantas Airways Limited, Qantas means Qantas and not QANTAS.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25652 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3711 times:

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 2):
KLM - Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij

You can't say KLM as a word (like JAL or TAM) as there are no vowels. It's always just the 3 letters K - L - M separately.

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 2):
PIA - Pakistan International Airlines

Same as KL, I've never heard PIA pronounced as one word "Peeuh".

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 1):
Quoting blueflyer (Reply 1):
I think the most common example is QANTAS, which so many people want to spell as Quantas, as if it were indeed a word. (Queensland And Northern Territories Air Service)

Almost. Original name was Queensland and Northern Territory (singular) Aerial (not Air) Services (plural)

Actually it is basically a word now as the company's legal name has long been Qantas Airways (until sometime in the 1960s, Qantas Empire Airways). When they dropped "Empire" they also changed their IATA code from EM to QF.


User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

EVA - ? (something with Evergreen)

TAROM - Transporturile Aeriene ROMâne

MALEV - MAgyar giközlekedési Vállalat

CAL - Cargo Air Lines



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User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1329 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

MEA - Middle East Airlines


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User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

SAHSA - Servicio Aéreo de Honduras S.A.


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User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3695 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
You can't say KLM as a word (like JAL or TAM) as there are no vowels. It's always just the 3 letters K - L - M separately.

Yes, that was discussed after I made that post. As I said, I have heard people go as far as Kleh-me with KLM. However, that is too ridiculous and irregular to count.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
I've never heard PIA pronounced as one word "Peeuh".

I imagine you get the "uh" in "peeuh" from the sound of the letter A in French. However, in Portuguese you would read Pee-ah which makes sense. I reckon you could pronounce Pee-ah or Pie-ah in English. The former makes sense while the latter does not.


Speedbird741

[Edited 2011-02-27 20:18:33]


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25652 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3686 times:

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 15):
EVA - ? (something with Evergreen)

I've been told that they prefer "EVA" to be pronounced as 3 separate letters E - V - A, not one word like the female first name Eva. However it's likely that most passengers will consider it as a word. Much discussion of that issue in this 2003 thread, including several references that "E-V-A" as 3 letters is preferred.
How Do You Pronounce "eva Air"? (by Airbus Lover Apr 16 2003 in Civil Aviation)
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User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6813 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Aviaco = Aviación y Comercio
Spantax = Spanish Air Taxi Líneas Aéreas
Avianca = Aerovías Nacionales de Colombia, now Aerovías del Continente Americano



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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5714 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3616 times:

Quoting Quokka (Reply 13):
BOAC was always pronounced each letter singularly: it is an abbreviation but not an acronym.

Sorry, in the 1960s & 70s BOAC was often pronounced Bo-Ac(k) by BOAC, QF & other industry personal.

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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

SAS

In English I say S-A-S, and that is what I always hear. However, in Norwegian, nobody ever says S-A-S, but "Sahs".

The same goes for Denmark and Sweden (from my experience).

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User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1066 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3613 times:

SIA (Singapore Airlines) which coincidentally is a word in Singlish (Singaporean English). I guess pretty much only the Singaporeans and Malaysians know how to use that word.


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User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 718 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

During their short period branding as NWA, did anyone call Northwest Airlines "na-wah" or "noah"?


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25 PHLBOS : Most likely, some (usually of the younger generation) probably snickered a bit because the NWA acronym was also the name for a hard-core rap group fr
26 Post contains images aeroflot001 : I always have read it as Eva like Eva Peron , frankly its easier than having to say E-V-A What is MEA usually called I cant imagine to many people da
27 B6JFKH81 : I have actually heard some old-time techs refer to their TWA days by saying "TeeWay". That may be an old internal thing though.
28 Initious : Here we normally refer it to SQ or S-I-A. No one actually pronounces it as "seeah" though.
29 Viscount724 : What does the "I" stand for in SIA? I've always been curious about that. Hasn't their name always just been "Singapore Airlines"?.
30 Quokka : Maybe internally, but I do not recall them ever selling themselves as such. For example, on the telephone they did not respond that way to callers wh
31 Coal : In Japan I've always heard ANA being referred to as A-N-A when speaking in English, never as Anna. In Singapore, a lot of people refer to Singapore A
32 Initious : That's their ICAO code but I am not very sure how people in Singapore advanced from that to referring SQ as SIA. However, most (if not all) English s
33 OP3000 : In the Caribbean, the old BWIA used to be referred to casually as "Beewee". Another one (in the UK) was BMED, said as "Bee-Med". Other examples (livin
34 gemuser : True, but the rest of the industry did, as they themselves did internally. It was so common that it certainly qualifies as per the OP. Gemuser
35 Post contains images aeroflot001 : Oh professionally I have no doubt that it was always B-O-A-C, like I mentioned before in the video I saw documenting the very first Comet flight to J
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