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A333 Or B763 On Air Canada?  
User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 583 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7231 times:

I might be travelling YYZ - FRA or YYZ - MUC on AC.
To FRA, they operate the 333, to MUC it's 763. Which one of these would you prefer? Not your personal preferences towards one or the other manufacturer, but just regarding the pax comfort on board?


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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4915 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7214 times:

If you are traveling in Economy, there is an additional inch of legroom in the forward Economy cabin of the A330, over the B767. In Executive First, the product is identical.

Myself, I always prefer to fly on a smaller aircraft ... less people around the baggage carousel, less through Customs/Immigration, etc. But with such a similar product, it really does come down to A vs. B. And with your name, I would have thought the choice would be easy!  



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User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7208 times:

Quoting LongHauler (Reply 1):
And with your name, I would have thought the choice would be easy!

Would be easy, but via MUC, it saves me over 2 hrs total travel time (if flight to MUC is on time).
So wanted to know if the difference in comfort or experience merits these 2 hrs extra.



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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7205 times:

Except for small differences in seat pitch the Y product is basically identical aboard of both. The A330 is a bit quieter, so it has a slight advantage. However if you have no status with *A, I'd suggest to fly the 763, as it has only one middle seat per row. So my choice would be 763 via MUC.
If select the 763 and you're going after a window seat, beware of the windowless seats in the small Y cabin.


User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4915 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7166 times:

Quoting 330lover (Reply 2):
So wanted to know if the difference in comfort or experience merits these 2 hrs extra.


In my opinion, no. The product between the two ships is almost identical, I'd go with the more convenient flight. Besides ... I may even be your Captain!



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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2598 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7149 times:

Quoting LongHauler (Reply 4):



Talking of comfort, I find odd that the short/medium haul E-jets have larger seat pitch than the 763's...I just spent 5 hours aboard one last Friday (row 35, ouch...but at least I could see the flaps and ailerons working) and honestly, wouldn't want to spend the night in a seat like this...


User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7135 times:

One more strange thing.
In our gds (working for business travel agency), it is scheduled as 763, but when opening the seat map, it shows a config 2-4-2, which is the 333 config. Noticed as well thet from beginning of june, it changes to 333. Is this a sign that it might turn out to be 333? Or just an error in the gds?



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User currently offlinesrqmuc From Germany, joined Jun 2010, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7122 times:

Can't help you on your decision on the aircraft type, but I definitely would choose MUC (767) over FRA (A330) because it's IMO the nicer airport as a transit passenger!

User currently offlineRJLover From Canada, joined Dec 2006, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7090 times:

Quoting 330lover (Reply 6):
In our gds (working for business travel agency), it is scheduled as 763, but when opening the seat map, it shows a config 2-4-2, which is the 333 config. Noticed as well thet from beginning of june, it changes to 333. Is this a sign that it might turn out to be 333? Or just an error in the gds?

The aircraft gauge changes from 763 to 333 on 31MAY2011. It is always possible that they could upgauge the flight earlier, based on passenger demand.



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24915 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7063 times:

In Y class, apart from the slightly lower chance of a middle seat on the 763, the only difference I've noted between the 763 and the A330 is that the overhead bins on the A330 seem larger, especially those over the center seats. They're also easier to access.

AC's A330s also have a better passengers-per-lavatory ratio than their 763s. One lavatory for every 38 passengers (6 for 228 passengers) on the A330, compared to one for every 47 passengers on the 763 (4 for 187 passengers).


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3941 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7056 times:
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Quoting LongHauler (Reply 1):
In Executive First, the product is identical.

I disagree.
Service is faster in the A330 Executive First mid cabin since there are less seats, and the mid cabin is also quieter, especially when the flight is not full as passengers who do not choose a specific seat are assigned seats from the front down.



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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4915 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6982 times:

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 10):
Service is faster in the A330 Executive First mid cabin since there are less seats

Like the OP, I was referring to the hard product. The actual seat in which one sits, and the catering offered is identical.

I have no idea how the Service Director arranges her Executive First service. If the rear J cabin is served first, then I would guess to achieve the same level of service on a B767, one would have to find in what part of the J cabin service starts.

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 10):
and the mid cabin is also quieter,

I assume you refer to airframe/engine noise. As I have heard complaints from passengers that the rear J cabin on the A330 tends to be noisy with "baby noise" as there could potentially be three baby bassinets immediately behind the aft bulkhead of the rear J cabin.

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 10):
seat are assigned seats from the front down.

Seats are assigned according to Weight and Balance if the passenger does not have a preference for a specific seat. But you are correct, in aircraft with a large J cabin at the front, (24 in the B767, 37 in the A330) then likely seats will be assigned from front to back for balance purposes.



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User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 583 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6858 times:

Decision taken, ticket issued.

BRU-FRA-MEX on LH
CUN-YYZ-MUC-BRU on AC/LH

'longhauler', you know my dates, just let me know if you're the one that will be flying 'my' plane.

Other question:
On the FRA-MEX flight, I can select my seat. I chose 54A, window seat at the back, first row with 2 seats on the sides in stead of 3. Extra roomy seats, I suppose, or what are your thoughts?



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3941 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 19 hours ago) and read 6827 times:
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Quoting longhauler (Reply 11):
I assume you refer to airframe/engine noise.

No, just my experience overall. I'm aware that the rear of any J cabin is the closest to crying babies, I'm not a fan of them, especially when I try to sleep, but maybe I should count myself lucky because it hasn't been a problem for me on AC (yet).
The only downside to the mid cabin compared to the front cabin is that at gates with two jetways, coach boards at L2 so there is far more traffic in the mid cabin, but it is not an issue, just the only "drawback" of the mid cabin over the front cabin.



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